Regardless of who started it and where or when it started, the issue is that soccerisms for the want of a better word are becoming part and parcel of our games, particularly, football tho not solely as im sure someone will already have a hurling youtube clip lined up to fire out.
Booing freetakers,booing opposing teams, even booing your own team, diving,feigning injury, even defensive football(persoinally i blame celtic for that.
It wont be long now til we see the imaginary card gesture, segregation of fans even.

Offside is completely correct it is a respect issue, there is banter on here and at matches. However, booing/whistling/jeering in my eyes anyway is a sign of disrespect which could escalate very quickly to the point where it becomes the norm like it is in soccer.

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 01/04/2015 11:01:53    1709314

so basically mciver has admitted they had no hope of beating dublin playing gaelic football
so he decided we should just try stop dublin playing gaelic football and see what happens
then says he wanted to play off the shoulder attacking football but it was the way dublin set up
that made it like a game of chess
haha its like two different people talking in the one interview

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/04/2015 11:10:05    1709320

31/03/2015 16:20:31
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Jesus read a few of the comments before posting will you , if you disagree with why people booed fair enough , but your soccer example shows you comment without reading the posts . why am I not surprised .


Why are you getting so defensive Damo, raw nerve touched by any chance, why am i not surprised either!

And yet again you hit a nerve as yet again another post no sustance , sound bites is about your level of input , all sizzle no sausage you are , all sizzleeeeee


Obviously ive a different level of respect towards fellow Gaels than you do, im sure you're opinion and the obvious need to voice it (or boo it on this occasion) is more important though!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 01/04/2015 11:11:16    1709322

Ashrules, if you were actually a Dublin fan you'd know your comments arent true.
Boooooooooooooooooo!

HenryHill16 (Dublin) - Posts: 249 - 01/04/2015 11:12:47    1709324

Hill i happen to believe it is more about respect when it comes to rugby followers being silent though everyone can and do interpret motives differently.

As i alluded to earlier and at the risk of soundinga larmist we could be starting to slide down a slippery slope here.

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 01/04/2015 11:16:47    1709326

hill16no1man
your hurlers recieved that for a very good reason that day
when ye scored your goal that day
take a look at the manner in which your forwards turned to the hill and the actions they done with their hurls
was very dissapointing behaviour from fellow gaels

I did take a look at it, I even replayed it but unless jumping in the air is now provocation I don't get where your coming from. The booing was clear from early on in that match, very disappointing behaviour from 'fellow gaels'

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 01/04/2015 11:17:02    1709327

offside rule

and do you think its respectfull in rugby to remain silent in the hope of unnerving the kicker
and then cheering when he misses?

Have no problem with any cheering/jeering after the kick. For me its about giving the kicker respect for the kick. If he is given every opportunity to concentrate and get his kick off then anything beyond that I have no issue with.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/04/2015 11:23:54    1709333

bumpernut
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Hill i happen to believe it is more about respect when it comes to rugby followers being silent though everyone can and do interpret motives differently.
As i alluded to earlier and at the risk of soundinga larmist we could be starting to slide down a slippery slope here.


you would have to be labelled gullable in that case my friend
believe me the rugger buggers started it in thomond because they felt the opposition would shrink under the attention
how are we slipping down a slippery slope by getting involved in the game itself
if you dont like noise stay at home
its not golf or the bdo darts
nobody still answers the question is it not wrong to cheer when a team scores then
as thats showing a lack of respect for the team who conceeded

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/04/2015 11:32:43    1709338

saffrondon
this probably wont be allowed posted but il give it a go
ythree forwards immediatly after scoring the goal
turned their hurls around and aimed like snipers at supporters on the hill

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/04/2015 11:34:12    1709339

offside rule
Have no problem with any cheering/jeering after the kick. For me its about giving the kicker respect for the kick. If he is given every opportunity to concentrate and get his kick off then anything beyond that I have no issue with.

thats ridiculous
so its unfair to do it before he kicks
but its totaly acceptable to rub it into someones face if they miss
how does that show respect for players?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/04/2015 11:35:59    1709340

hill16no1man

so three players out the field somewhere got together and made that gesture? unlikely, because the scorer nor the provider did that as you'll see about 23 seconds in here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXx_4z69FcM

not that The Hill would need a viable excuse to start booing an away team anyway.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 01/04/2015 11:45:25    1709348

Respect for the freekick.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/04/2015 11:46:08    1709350

I don't agree with jeering free takers. I don't participate in it and never will. It's an element of the game that's crept in. The last time I remember Dublin fans jeering was after the minor final in 2011. The Tipp lads were doing their lap of honour to the collective applause of the Hill when the Tipp keeper responded with one and two finger salutes. The Hill reacted and a Tipp selector apprehended the young fool.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 01/04/2015 12:06:29    1709364

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I don't agree with jeering free takers. I don't participate in it and never will. It's an element of the game that's crept in. The last time I remember Dublin fans jeering was after the minor final in 2011. The Tipp lads were doing their lap of honour to the collective applause of the Hill when the Tipp keeper responded with one and two finger salutes. The Hill reacted and a Tipp selector apprehended the young fool.

***

Remember that well, except i remember the keeper was not the only one giving the fingers and didnt see anyone apprehended for it.
I didnt lose any sleep over it and didnt take to my keyboard to register my hurt feelings about being racially abused by a 17 year old.

People are quick to bring up so called unsportsmanlike behaviour from the hill, but ive seen dozens and dozens of incidents not involving dubs,
last fist fight i saw on the hill the only dubs involvement was watching our country neighbours lay into each other.

HenryHill16 (Dublin) - Posts: 249 - 01/04/2015 12:36:35    1709383

saffrondon why would i make it up???
i will always remember it
as I found it disgusting and couldnt believe it coming from a county that had to deal with that in everyday

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/04/2015 12:52:30    1709397

saffrondon that clip shows 5 seconds of action
the players in question were the cusack stand side of the pitch 2 of them bang in front of the hill
and another back out 30 yards
your 5 second footage doesnt show anything

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/04/2015 12:57:46    1709400

offside so its a must to respect the chances of your team conceeding a score
but theres no need to respect the feelings of a player who misses a scoring chance?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/04/2015 13:00:09    1709403

hill16no1man

the reason I'm sceptical is this is the first I've heard of it and if it did happen it would have raised hell in the media as we all know. Like I've said already, no excuse is needed on The Hill for the abuse to start and any gestures returned are likely out of frustration, however, if those gestures were made, they are inexcusable and have no place in the game. But at least be honest about the abuse from The Hill in general, its rarely self defence, is it??

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 01/04/2015 13:25:37    1709418

Abuse from the Hill

Big girls blouse Belfast boy...

:)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 01/04/2015 13:28:51    1709420

offside so its a must to respect the chances of your team conceeding a score
but theres no need to respect the feelings of a player who misses a scoring chance?

Look, we obviously have different feelings towards what should be shown respect. Do you also think it would be OK for the losing teams fans on AI final day to stay for the presentation of the trophy and then start booing through the speech? Or that its OK for players to do a Lundy and fall round all over the pitch trying to get players sent off, or call to the ref for cards for fould on them? After all they could also be classed as just a bit of sportsmanship or whatever guise you want to put it under.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/04/2015 13:32:25    1709421