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Against Down we played all out attack in the 1st half and led by 6 points in the second half we dropped players back and allowed Down back into the game. We don't or i don't think we will ever know how to play with a solid defensive structure.

Ourselves and Down have the best chance of gain promotion next weekend according to the bookies, we are joint top scorers in this division and both haven't looked to keep things tight at the back in order to win games so if we are both promoted then positive football will be rewarded.

ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 30/03/2015 17:47:13    1708547

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square_ball_69 my Westmeath friend you have a poor understanding of the blanket defence, to play a blanket defence you need more than dropping players back. We don't put pressure on the opposition forwards we don't force forwards out wide or into difficult positions before shooting. To repeat 17 points we have conceded per game in this years league our so called blanket must be full of holes and you will see for yourself next Sunday and i can tell you now that we won't hold Westmeath to low scores like Meath and Cavan did.

I'm not saying you do set out to play with a blanket defense in every game. But having 15 players in your own half is 100% using a blanket defense. Whether or not they are effective and defending is purely incidental

square_ball_69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 826 - 30/03/2015 21:41:24    1708689

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As ispeakwisdom said above we don't know how to play a blanket whenever we drop players back we actually give the opposition the advantage. Blanket defence = low scores conceded and as it stands ourselves and Kildare has conceded the most in div 2 this year.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3757 - 30/03/2015 21:56:24    1708696

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The key to a 'blanket' defense as you call it is to strike a balance between defensive pressure on the backfoot and turning over the ball into an attacking phase.
This is as much of a skill for coaches in the game as training slick forward play. Because some teams aka Derry or Cavan don't have the forwards and perhaps the coaches to make this defensive approach work correctly doesn't make it a flawed technique. The textbook examples being Donegal 2012 vintage and Kerry last year. Didn't hear any complaints about over negativity in the AI final last year yet Kerry played to the exact same principal.
Maybe my friend it is you who fails to grasp the 'blanket' defensive principal.

highking12 (Meath) - Posts: 184 - 31/03/2015 08:08:38    1708704

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Square ball, spot on, just cause a team cant do it properly does not mean that they don't play a blanket defense.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/03/2015 09:34:00    1708718

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From what i have seen in divison 2 this year.Down roscommon and galway have played the most attacking football with meath been the culprits of playing the blanket defences.

Pingcity (Longford) - Posts: 568 - 31/03/2015 10:01:15    1708738

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Let's all be truthful at stages of every game played every week from schools club and intercounty every team at stages of a match have 10 plus back and if ye can't see it.
Ye don't understand football and what's required in the current game with the current rules for success.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 31/03/2015 10:57:06    1708766

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Funny enough Longford was the first real get everybody back behind the ball team I seen this year in Navan back in January. To be fair though judging by some of your previous posts you seem to have an axe to grind with Meath anyway, so would it be fair to say that your criticism runs a little deeper?

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 31/03/2015 12:02:31    1708798

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Laois without Kingston won't get near Down THIS sunday . Munnelly is having an off season so far . Not one of the other forwards possess a serious scoring threat . The guy that came on from Stradbally on Saturday night looks decent though ,won some great ball . Even if Laois won the midfield battle against Kildare it certainly wasn't translated into scores . I don't think Kingston deserved to be sent off in my opinion also . Bolton is some man for the important goals for the lilywhites .

Poolbeg (USA) - Posts: 24 - 31/03/2015 12:07:15    1708800

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1708798 Pingcity

Funny enough Longford was the first real get everybody back behind the ball team I seen this year in Navan back in January. To be fair though judging by some of your previous posts you seem to have an axe to grind with Meath anyway, so would it be fair to say that your criticism runs a little deeper?

I am actually a Roscommon man if you you have read any my previous posts and have attended all our games this year.I now happen to live across the shannon in lansboro hense reason i put down longford as it it where i am from now.I am just giving my honest opinion on the games i have seen this year i have seen every team bar westmeath thus far and meath were the worst i have witnessed in this divison and most negitive game plan. what they have conceded in games so far backs up what i am saying.So i am entitled to my opinion which i think is more fact that meath play blanket defence

Pingcity (Longford) - Posts: 568 - 31/03/2015 12:25:51    1708816

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Galway and Kildare could be a cracker on Sunday . Both teams coming off two impressive derby wins last week and both will a certain amount of confidence approaching this game .

Poolbeg (USA) - Posts: 24 - 31/03/2015 12:27:05    1708820

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I am actually a Roscommon man if you you have read any my previous posts and have attended all our games this year.


Ok fair enough, haven't really read most of your posts, to be fair most of the ones I have see are just anti Meath vitriol under the guise of opinion.

meath were the worst i have witnessed in this divison and most negitive game plan. what they have conceded in games so far backs up what i am saying.

Good defending maybe or does that not suit your anti Meath stance? If you think we're the worst team in the division then fair enough, everybody is entitled to their opinion but again I get the impression that you just hate Meath so your opinion of us will be negative no matter what.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 31/03/2015 13:33:59    1708882

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1708798 Pingcity

Funny enough Longford was the first real get everybody back behind the ball team I seen this year in Navan back in January. To be fair though judging by some of your previous posts you seem to have an axe to grind with Meath anyway, so would it be fair to say that your criticism runs a little deeper?

I am actually a Roscommon man if you you have read any my previous posts and have attended all our games this year.I now happen to live across the shannon in lansboro hense reason i put down longford as it it where i am from now.I am just giving my honest opinion on the games i have seen this year i have seen every team bar westmeath thus far and meath were the worst i have witnessed in this divison and most negitive game plan. what they have conceded in games so far backs up what i am saying.So i am entitled to my opinion which i think is more fact that meath play blanket defence

Mmm, have u been to a 6 of Meath's games or how many are games are you basing this opinion on??........were second in the table with the best score difference and yet were the worst team in the division according to you, if that's your opinion fine but don't expect us to sit back and not challenge your opinion

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 31/03/2015 13:38:33    1708886

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Another anti Meath rossie, jasus they need to get over 91, but at least he will say where hes from unlike a certain rossie who pretends to be in us

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/03/2015 14:46:39    1708934

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Coming from the boys who defended the bull royaldunne has been spraying for weeks thats rich.I am basing mesth been worst in divison(IMO) on the basis as i mentioned already that i have attended all of roscommons games thus far(all teams bar westmeath) and ye were the weakest in what i have seen. we still bet ye and it was our worst performance of the last two years.

Maybe it is just good defending that has kept opposition to low scores in yer other five games but against us it was a formation of. Goalkeeper
10 BAcks
2 midfielders
2 forwards

Pingcity (Longford) - Posts: 568 - 31/03/2015 14:49:03    1708936

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They do say to deflect what your upto is to blame a team of doing it.
We all know Roscommon has employed the blanket defense, just cause they ain't perfected it means little.
I expect Westmeath superior players to account for a poor enough Roscommon team this weekend.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/03/2015 15:48:32    1708982

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Coming from the boys who defended the bull royaldunne has been spraying for weeks thats rich


Haha there it is, I knew well you were going to blame royaldunne for your hatred of Meath, listen the Roscommon v Meath game is over, you's won and I hold no ill will for Roscommon, now I'm finished with this nonsense, enjoy your bitterness, I hope it makes you happy.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 31/03/2015 16:11:24    1708995

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Haha there it is, I knew well you were going to blame royaldunne for your hatred of Meath, listen the Roscommon v Meath game is over, you's won and I hold no ill will for Roscommon, now I'm finished with this nonsense, enjoy your bitterness, I hope it makes you happy.

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A few posters on both sides would do well to remember this. Its beyond boring at this stage, lads getting in digs at every opportunity. I'm actually sick of seeing the word 'Meath' and I'm sure some of the more level-headed of the Royal posters on here are the same of seeing 'Roscommon'!

decky (Roscommon) - Posts: 384 - 31/03/2015 16:40:05    1709008

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Meath Vs Cavan: Close game, both teams can be excessively negative i.e. blanket blindness. Must win game for both sides, low scoring affair with little entertainment, Meath by 2-5, wouldn't surprise me if this was a draw.
Westmeath Vs Ros: Thought Westmeath would have taken something from Cavan, fell badly. They've mixed decent performances with atrocious ones so far in this campaign. Only hope here is that with relegation staring Westmeath in the face, they can make a big effort and put in one of the better ones. Still need other results to go their way, but all they can do is win their own and see what happens. Westmeath by 2.
Down Vs Laois: This is the one for me that could help us get promotion. You'd have to fancy Down, but I'm the eternal optimist and will give Laois a slight nod as they Div 3 is on the horizon if this goes wrong for them.
Galway Vs Kildare: Game of the weekend in this division. Both will be on a high after last weekends results. Kildare need a win to avoid Div 3, longshot of a Galway win getting them promotion but stranger things have happened. Galway by 5+

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 31/03/2015 16:45:40    1709017

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Down v laois Down with bit to spare
Galway v Kildare Galway handy
Westmeath v roscommon roscommon by 3
Meath v cavan cavan by 2

Down and cavan promoted
Kildare and Westmeath relegated

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 31/03/2015 16:46:38    1709018

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