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Themaster jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 12/02/2015 16:33:14 1692988 Link 0 |
Again, no mention of outscoring the 3 of them, at 21 years old, with 1 arm - when it mattered most... You don't have to keep repeating the rest of it. TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/02/2015 16:45:04 1692994 Link 0 |
Good player. For me though, hes just down the list of the best forwards in Ireland. Id take Murphy, Cian 0'Neil , Jamie Clarke , Brogan , James O D ahead of him any-day. Brogan , Murphy et al have produced it on the biggest stage of all so until he does that , then id have him behind them . Age is on his side though. Similar to Paddy McBrearty though, we take them for granted and yet they are still so young. TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 12/02/2015 16:54:23 1692998 Link 0 |
TheRishgStuff, but similarly, doesn't this 'on the biggest stage' stuff take for granted the team you play in, your opponents, (the fact that your shoulder was held on by a thread) in the same way people take age for granted? O'Connor has played in 2 finals, 1) he was 20 and playing against the most complete blanket defence ever, 2) he was 21 and carrying a serious injury which had gone again in the weeks previous. Surely he is due a bit of slack there? He tore Kerry a new one in the semi final - no other forward managed that all year. He done the same to donegal the year before. TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/02/2015 17:08:32 1693010 Link 0 |
TheMaster jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 12/02/2015 17:11:32 1693015 Link 0 |
Good man Jimbo. Very reasoned argument as usual. pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 12/02/2015 17:12:02 1693016 Link 0 |
pdempsey jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 12/02/2015 17:18:55 1693022 Link 0 |
Jaysus,lads this is turning into a bit of a bitchfest. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 12/02/2015 17:25:34 1693029 Link 0 |
Again speaks voulmes about the current Myao setup jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 12/02/2015 17:26:35 1693032 Link 0 |
If his team had lost in the quarter final to donegal they would have been out, that goes for the semi final too, although I have a feeling you are aware of that. So that is when it matters most to your team. If you cant deliver in a knockout game and your team lose, that is when it mattered. Quite simple actually. So when it mattered most against donegal for example, he rattled off 3-4 with one arm, around the time of his 21st birthday. Now, Connolly, brogan and Flynn, first off 6 good arms - no injuries there, all grown men in their late 20s, supposedly among the elite forwards in the game, and undoubtedly 3 of the best Dublin have produced, probably ever. How did they do when it mattered most against donegal? I mean if the magees cant mark O'Connor and varley, Id be worried for their safety against those 3. Can you refresh my memory, how did it go? Double hat-tricks was it? It is strange you cant seem to bring yourself to discuss it. Surely the exploits of these Dublin heroes, and dare I say marquee forwards, can offer an example to O'Connor as to how it should be done? TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/02/2015 17:39:20 1693039 Link 0 |
Surely the exploits of these Dublin heroes, and dare I say marquee forwards, can offer an example to O'Connor as to how it should be done? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 12/02/2015 17:45:26 1693045 Link 0 |
Dubh_linn, as the saying goes, if you want to dish it out, be prepared to take it back. Some people get a bit upset when that happens Im afraid... TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/02/2015 17:54:14 1693049 Link 0 |
jimbodub roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 12/02/2015 18:01:53 1693054 Link 0 |
Really roundball... jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 12/02/2015 18:11:34 1693059 Link 0 |
Every thread turns into a bitch fest :D realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 12/02/2015 18:23:37 1693061 Link 0 |
Master- yeah thats fair enough. At the end of the day, I suppose it doesnt matter who is better, once they do it for their own county. I think hes a class act. Your point re the All-Ireland final is valid too. Id dont believe though overall that players need to win one to be regarded as the greatest. Dec Browne and Paul Barden were as good as anything I have ever saw in the flesh so that argument is futile. Its like Paddy McBrearty has already received some slight criticism in Donegal. Ridiculous IMO given his age. Players normally dont peak until 25-29. TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 12/02/2015 18:36:54 1693063 Link 0 |
enright showed himself to not being up to the right standard..what else did o connor though afterwards?..why couldnt he do anything from play 2 years in a row against the dubs?...if he is as good as people say then how come mayo are regarded as having no top forward?...hes a decent player largely because of his hard work good free taking and good finishing..far from exceptional and not anywhere close to the likes of o donoghue connolly or brogan when hes in form..colm o neil is another example of a much better footballer as he is such a threat from play which o connor simply is not fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 12/02/2015 19:07:16 1693078 Link 0 |
Don't think he's near O'Donoghue's level IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 305 - 14/02/2015 15:53:16 1693487 Link 0 |
fabio8 roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 14/02/2015 16:06:49 1693492 Link 0 |
roundball Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 16/02/2015 10:44:16 1693939 Link 0 |