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So master you want to debate just for the sake of the debating? Be my guest! realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 15/04/2014 21:07:58 1575742 Link 0 |
Should be "Stop Targeting the Dubs!" - between the GAA HQ and Leinster and everyone else bleeding us fans dry. Somehow we are supposed to stop playing In Croke Park to stimulate economic growth in Rural Ireland!! The only people Sky want on their TV is Dubs, the only ones who keep the show on the road. I just hope the DCB see sense and put the County first. GAA would be nothing without Dublin arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 15/04/2014 21:12:57 1575744 Link 0 |
Nothing better then playing the Dubs in Croker in full of a packed hill. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 15/04/2014 21:19:20 1575748 Link 0 |
MesAmis, Im not sure. It is probably more of a GAA thing than individual county boards. To me it makes no sense on any level, and is probably costing them more to put it on in croke park than it would in a smaller ground. I think it would add something to the league if I am honest. A smaller ground almost full would add to the atmosphere massively. TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 15/04/2014 21:28:09 1575749 Link 0 |
dubs home ground is parnell park end of story bro D5dub (Dublin) - Posts: 283 - 15/04/2014 21:47:31 1575763 Link 0 |
TheMaster AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 15/04/2014 22:00:18 1575773 Link 0 |
A Few Points: chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 16/04/2014 08:59:00 1575783 Link 0 |
Just seen a Pathe News clip of the 1934 All Ireland Final between Dublin & Galway on the journal.ie, commentator refers to Dublin as the "home team", looks like the GAA knew their cash cows in the 30's too, I had to laugh Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 16/04/2014 09:03:11 1575784 Link 0 |
From what I recall Dublin beat Tyrone in Omagh!!! That's not CROKE PARK. fingalman (Dublin) - Posts: 233 - 16/04/2014 09:39:16 1575799 Link 0 |
chriscart580 jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 16/04/2014 09:51:35 1575808 Link 0 |
fingalman Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 16/04/2014 09:55:35 1575810 Link 0 |
Master, obviously I agree with the OP, hence my other post, nothing to do with close to the bone, ridiculous thing to say when most of us would love to travel to away matches. Going back over the same old ground time and time again does not make for good debate, it makes for boredom. How you have the appetite to go on and on and on about the same thing astounds me. I don't disagree with your sentiments I just don't need to repeat myself a million times, enjoy this original debate :D realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 16/04/2014 10:01:45 1575813 Link 0 |
Chriscart Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 16/04/2014 10:03:43 1575814 Link 0 |
Thats because Meath never look for excuses when Dubs beat them and vice versa. If you're good enough it doesnt matter where its played. And for years dubs werent good enough. Now we are good enough and its become a huge issue. I understand the gripe for sure but its misdirected frustration at the dubs. Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 16/04/2014 10:27:29 1575824 Link 0 |
Dublin's opening game against Wicklow or Laois should be outside Croke park. I don't think anyone would object to that and as the OP says, the fall in crowds over last few years in Croke Park defeat the argument that only Croke Park could hold the crowd. Either game would pack out either Portlaoise if it was Laois or Dr. Cullen Park or Nowland Park if it were Wicklow. hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 16/04/2014 10:42:38 1575836 Link 0 |
TheMaster MURPHB33 (Dublin) - Posts: 166 - 16/04/2014 10:47:55 1575839 Link 0 |
Nothin' better than beatin' de Dubs in Croker. It's only recently become a rarity that this happens. As for the point of the thread, the GAA need to take a serious look at their whole approach to IC fixtures. Was at the Kildare/Offaly, Dublin/Westmeath double header last year in Croker and could not understand why Kildare/Offaly was played there. Brought no more than 10K (probably less) and should have been in Tullamore or Newbridge, where you would have a better crowd and atmosphere. Donegal Vs Cavan in U21 played in Armagh just doesn't make any sense at all. Probably loads of other examples out there. These days in the championship, no reason for Meath to be Croker against anyone apart from Dublin or Kildare as the numbers don't justify it. Even Vs Kildare could probably be played in Tullamore/Portlaoise with no bother. moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 16/04/2014 10:50:30 1575842 Link 0 |
Master MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13709 - 16/04/2014 10:59:52 1575854 Link 0 |
Galway hurlers are the opposite, in that it nearly takes an act of god to get a home game in the championship in Salthill. The Leinster Council won't allow that either. I think they are the barrier to this - I am sure Dubs fans would love nothing more than an away game, as it is great fun, and mixes things up a bit. Dublin fans can't be held to blame for the fact that they are the capital, and have more people than anyone else, and so are used as a cash cow by the GAA. That being said, I do think they should play away (if necessary) in the early rounds in Leinster, as it would be a great fillup for both their fans, and the team they are playing. abhainn (Galway) - Posts: 1000 - 16/04/2014 11:02:05 1575859 Link 0 |
I have been a frequent commentator on this issue, more so regarding league fixtures than championship, but yes the majority of this problem lies with Leinster Council although as I says previously I was less than impressed with the conduct of the Dublin County Board or Leinster Council regarding the recent U21 final. Leinster Q/Finals do not need to be in Croke Park and grounds like Portlaoise, Nowlan Park, Wexford Park (and hopefully in the not too distant future a revamped Pairc Tailteann) have capacity to deal with these fixtures even with the Dubs involved, indeed I would argue that depending on the opposition that Dublin could play semi finals outside of Croker too although this would be less common. The issue with league games really ticked me off, the recent phenomenon of Dublin playing 5 out of 7 league games in Croke Park, aided by the wilting Lilly's in Kildare, made a mockery of the competition and should never have been allowed to happen. Dublin could play their part here too by declaring a desire to play outside Croker, this year offers a perfect opportunity so maybe it's not just other counties who should raise their voice, Dublin's voice is louder than most and carries weight and by bringing even one match down the country would give one town somewhere a hell of a days takings, no it won't end the recession but it would ease the stress off the shoulders of many in business in some town. Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 16/04/2014 11:37:40 1575885 Link 0 |