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he_Bull
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Benny, old stock, rochestown are probably one of the poorest teams you're ever likely to see. I saw them once when playing a challenge match. Their kicking was woeful. Talk about the lough having no underage structure. At least they have a good population still and get some players from local clubs that transfer. The lough also have decent playing pitches. Rochestown have no population and get players from weak clubs like passage and shamrocks I've been told. also from what I hear their pitch is very very poor.
I'd say the lough will be there a lot longer than rochestown
i obviously wasnt playing that day so haha
pidge (Cork) - Posts: 543 - 16/08/2013 18:12:56
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portavogielad
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Eoin Cadogan's club Douglas are not a bad outfit, but they are not in the city I guess. Does Millstreet still have a club? My great uncle once played with them in the 60's.
Douglas are indeed considered a city club though actually Douglas is in county Cork and its population is not counted in the city population (which is shrinking because people are moving out of the city to places like Douglas/Glanmire/Ballincollig which are not in the city despite being joined at the hip-that is Irish politics though).
Millstreet are still there. I think they may have been a senior football team up until the mid/late 1980s (need confirmation of that though). They have one player- Mark Ellis- who is a sub on the senior hurling panel. I can never recall a player from the Duhallow region winning a senior All-Ireland with Cork in hurling. If we are lucky enough to win this year there will be four (Nash, McLoughlin, Egan and Ellis). Again, I am not certain of this.
bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 16/08/2013 21:52:10
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what level would st. vincents be playing at in football???
RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 20/08/2013 16:48:23
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There will be one less club in Cork City in 9 days time unless the Cork County Board step in. Redmond's GAA have made the decision to fold.
The sad thing is that while playing numbers can be tight particularly when games spill in to the soccer season the main reason is the club is in debt. Nothing major, a lot to what is now a small Junior club but nothing that couldn't easily be rectified by the powers that be in Cork GAA. The club have a fine club house and hall in the heart of Cork City center, an area where the club battles against all odds to keep GAA alive.
To put this in prospective Redmonds is a club with a proud tradition, All Ireland Senior hurling champions in 1892 and Cork senior champions in 1892, 1900, 1901, 1915 and 1917.
You can be sure a bigger club wouldn't be left slip in to the night like this. The modern GAA loves it's supersized clubs but it seems they have all but forgotten about the grass roots.
tomhealycork (Cork) - Posts: 80 - 20/09/2018 15:31:12
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Very disappointing Tom.
bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 20/09/2018 22:59:31
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Replying To tomhealycork: "There will be one less club in Cork City in 9 days time unless the Cork County Board step in. Redmond's GAA have made the decision to fold.
The sad thing is that while playing numbers can be tight particularly when games spill in to the soccer season the main reason is the club is in debt. Nothing major, a lot to what is now a small Junior club but nothing that couldn't easily be rectified by the powers that be in Cork GAA. The club have a fine club house and hall in the heart of Cork City center, an area where the club battles against all odds to keep GAA alive.
To put this in prospective Redmonds is a club with a proud tradition, All Ireland Senior hurling champions in 1892 and Cork senior champions in 1892, 1900, 1901, 1915 and 1917.
You can be sure a bigger club wouldn't be left slip in to the night like this. The modern GAA loves it's supersized clubs but it seems they have all but forgotten about the grass roots." I can be sure a big club wouldn't disappear alright because that'd be an oxymoron. Big Clubs by definition don't fold. Big means they've lots of numbers so are not at risk of folding.
Also from what I've read about this club it wasn't about money as you claim, it's due to their traditional population base moving away from the city which leaves them fielding an ever aging team. They hadn't fielded an underage teams since the 1980s and recently had to have a 61 year old tog out.
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1642 - 21/09/2018 19:21:05
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Replying To The_Bull: "Benny Bunny you are right soft, afraid of playing against junior B teams like Fr O'Callaghan's or Shandon Rovers, typical townie or city boy. I knew a few lough rvs players from college, they are getting a lot of players transferring in from the barrs, I wouldn't say they are on their last legs. As for the barrs being a big side, not anymore. They will probably be relegated this year. Ballymartle will hammer them this weekend and ballinhassig will put them down. The "big city clubs" thrived when back in the 70's & 80's when there was a massive influx of good players transferring in from the country. They even got kevin murray who played for cloughduv, a club only a few miles beyond ballincollig. Look at it, the barrs were hammered by carbery rangers last week. At least blackrock are reviving themselves. Barrs haven't won a county since 1993. They aren't a big club doubletree (Dublin)
By the way benny bunny where did you get that name from? are you named after that strawberry flavoured milk that dawn milk had in the late 80's . Don't mind the big city clubs. The big Cork clubs now including city are:
Sarsfield
Erins Own
Midleton
Newtownshandrum
Bishopstown
Nemo Rangers
Ballymartle
Castlehaven
Glen rovers
Na piarsaigh
Carbery Rangers
These are the major clubs striving for honours in Cork." Blackrock not included? Contested county final last year and this year are in semi final .
List needs update.
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 21/09/2018 19:38:49
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Replying To RebelCork: "what level would st. vincents be playing at in football???" Vincents had 2 Cork senior hurlers...Christy O' Shea (circa 1956) and goalkeeper Paddy Barry (1965-1972)
Football was low level...many players from there would drift to Na Piarsaigh or Glen/St Nicks
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 21/09/2018 19:42:11
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Replying To tomhealycork: "There will be one less club in Cork City in 9 days time unless the Cork County Board step in. Redmond's GAA have made the decision to fold.
The sad thing is that while playing numbers can be tight particularly when games spill in to the soccer season the main reason is the club is in debt. Nothing major, a lot to what is now a small Junior club but nothing that couldn't easily be rectified by the powers that be in Cork GAA. The club have a fine club house and hall in the heart of Cork City center, an area where the club battles against all odds to keep GAA alive.
To put this in prospective Redmonds is a club with a proud tradition, All Ireland Senior hurling champions in 1892 and Cork senior champions in 1892, 1900, 1901, 1915 and 1917.
You can be sure a bigger club wouldn't be left slip in to the night like this. The modern GAA loves it's supersized clubs but it seems they have all but forgotten about the grass roots." Young Irelands went in Limerick. For years and years they were second in the roll of honour and indeed it took the Ahane team to put then there, in the forties. They gave many great players to the county like Mick Kennedy, Mickie Fitzgibbon and Bob McConkey, among others, but there you go.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 22/09/2018 08:02:10
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Replying To The_Bull: "Benny Bunny you are right soft, afraid of playing against junior B teams like Fr O'Callaghan's or Shandon Rovers, typical townie or city boy. I knew a few lough rvs players from college, they are getting a lot of players transferring in from the barrs, I wouldn't say they are on their last legs. As for the barrs being a big side, not anymore. They will probably be relegated this year. Ballymartle will hammer them this weekend and ballinhassig will put them down. The "big city clubs" thrived when back in the 70's & 80's when there was a massive influx of good players transferring in from the country. They even got kevin murray who played for cloughduv, a club only a few miles beyond ballincollig. Look at it, the barrs were hammered by carbery rangers last week. At least blackrock are reviving themselves. Barrs haven't won a county since 1993. They aren't a big club doubletree (Dublin)
By the way benny bunny where did you get that name from? are you named after that strawberry flavoured milk that dawn milk had in the late 80's . Don't mind the big city clubs. The big Cork clubs now including city are:
Sarsfield
Erins Own
Midleton
Newtownshandrum
Bishopstown
Nemo Rangers
Ballymartle
Castlehaven
Glen rovers
Na piarsaigh
Carbery Rangers
These are the major clubs striving for honours in Cork." Big city clubs thrived in 1970's not by influx of outside players but from nurturing of talent. Blackrock had 3 or 4 outside players..Frank Cummins, John Horgan and Donal/Francis Collins. The rest were homegrown. Barrs team had major talent ....all homegrown....as did the Glen. Cork teams back then won the All Ireland club on a regular basis.
The underage hurling competitions in 1960's and 70's were well organized, keenly contested and yes....the Barrs, Rockies and the Glen dominated .Blackrock won the first Feile na nGael (under 15) in 1971.
No surprise that Cork won 3 in a row in the 1970's.
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 22/09/2018 11:23:56
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Replying To CastleBravo: "I can be sure a big club wouldn't disappear alright because that'd be an oxymoron. Big Clubs by definition don't fold. Big means they've lots of numbers so are not at risk of folding.
Also from what I've read about this club it wasn't about money as you claim, it's due to their traditional population base moving away from the city which leaves them fielding an ever aging team. They hadn't fielded an underage teams since the 1980s and recently had to have a 61 year old tog out." I'm only seeing your reply CastleBravo, you sound a little annoyed with me. Don't believe all you read in the papers, it's rately that black and white.
What I say is true it's about money for the most part. There is a lot owed, clubhouse making a loss year on year. Committee is very old and are out of ideas. They have 25 players, the majority in their 20's but because the the Junior season is a mess in Cork most are committed to soccer as well where they have a game every week. They might have 8 to 10 gaelic games between Feb and December so who would blame them. When there is a clash they go with the game that they play week in week out, you couldn't blame them for that. That is where you see the 61 year old standing in. I understand too that he came on as a sub for an injury so they had 15.
Sure the population base has shifted from the inner city to the suburbs just like you have read but similarly the inner city clubs have been left to die away Fr O'Callaghans, Shandon Rovers and Gurranabraher have disappeared. Lough Rovers, Redmonds and Ballyphehane all stopped fielding underage teams. You'd be only blaguarding me if you tried to tell me there wasn't scope for an underage club in the inner city. Sure didn't a few older gentlemen from Redmonds nearly get one off the ground on their own 7/8 years ago. A proper County board backed effort would have every chance.
I'm glad to say Redmonds look like they will survive for now at least as decided at a recent emergency meeting. At that same meeting they were able to brag about only giving one walk over in 5 years something not too many Junior clubs in Cork could say. It looks however like they will lose their clubhouse due to the clubs financial situation but will be allowed to continue to field a team.
tomhealycork (Cork) - Posts: 80 - 04/10/2018 12:20:49
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