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Another one was the controversial ending to the Munster under 21 hurling final in 2008. Tipp and Clare were level and time was almost up when the Clare goalie had a 65 awarded against him for stepping outside the small square as he was pucking out the ball. While technically correct, I cannot recall a single other instance of this rule being enforced in almost 40 years of watching hurling. The ref had ignored numerous similar infractions by both goalies during the game but decided to call it this one time and Tipp scored the resulting 65 to win by a point. Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 10/09/2017 22:48:52 2044763 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: "Another thread slating refs and time some of ye took it up , because even the intercounty boys getting bad slating lately" I know it can be thankless but in all honesty, can you really not understand why they keep popping up. Standard is very, very poor. I think it's plenty fair to call out IC refs and reffing but w/respect. That said, until there's two refs for hurling, it's become nearly impossible. Yank_inyerchain (USA) - Posts: 10 - 11/09/2017 13:52:57 2044928 Link
Replying To Iamlegion666: "Its not possible, the only way you could have given another card after the black was if the player has used foul language or struck a player, etc, in which case, that would be a straight red. Unless you gave a yellow for him kicking a ball away, then you were just being a ***" If 2 infractions occur in one stoppage I see know reason why this cant be the case. If a player makes a yellow card offence and then starts cursing at the ref then that would be yellow + black = red. Similarly if a player pulls someone down and then before the ref Black cards him he starts a scrap then Black + yellow = red. dstuction (Donegal)** - Posts: 1209 - 11/09/2017 15:09:26 2044951 Link
playing a club game in London a few years back and opposition needed a goal, had a good few defenders back, one of their forwards got the ball in the square, few lads surrounded him arms in the air, no hands on him and he tried to burrow through and then fell to the ground, ref gave a penalty, asked the reason for he it and he said, "ye wouldn't let him kick the ball"!!! Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 11/09/2017 15:37:27 2044959 Link
very unusual one here..1987 Leinster Hurling Final..Offaly and Kilkenny...Declan Fogarty for Offaly hit a huge shot towards the Kilkenny posts...it went over the posts and the umpires & referee could not decide if it was a point or not..no signal eitherway was give..the referee directed the Kilkenny goal keeper just to puck out the ball to restart the play...hardly anyone remembers it but it always stuck with me for some reason... Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 11/09/2017 17:00:08 2045000 Link
Replying To Fairplayalways: "very unusual one here..1987 Leinster Hurling Final..Offaly and Kilkenny...Declan Fogarty for Offaly hit a huge shot towards the Kilkenny posts...it went over the posts and the umpires & referee could not decide if it was a point or not..no signal eitherway was give..the referee directed the Kilkenny goal keeper just to puck out the ball to restart the play...hardly anyone remembers it but it always stuck with me for some reason..." I don't remember that (before my time) but surely he gave the wide even if the umpire didn't signal cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 11/09/2017 17:49:14 2045020 Link
Surprised there's been no mention of the first referee to use video technology to make a decision. It happened in the Cavan v roscommon qualifier in 2015. Tomas Corr of Cavan tangled with a roscommon player off the ball a few minutes before half time. Play went on and the ball went out of play on two occasions (giving the umpires ample opportunity to alert the referee) before half time. Half time came and rte went to town on the incident showing it repeatedly and claiming that Corr should have been sent off. Cavan made a number if positional changes at half time and even substituted Corr (he hadn't been playing well). The players came out for the 2nd half but before throwing the ball In, the referee walked up to the Cavan dugout and sent Corr off meaning his replacement had to leave the field. Cavan had prepared for the 2nd half under the assumption that they still had 15 men on the field but were then forced to play with 14. It is unknown to this day if the referee or any of his officials actually saw a tv during half time or if they received a phone call or text from someone watching. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 11/09/2017 17:55:38 2045023 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "I don't remember that (before my time) but surely he gave the wide even if the umpire didn't signal" he gave no signal at all..I was listening to it live on a car radio (God be with the days!)..showed it that night on Sunday game and commentator remarked the strangeness of no decision either way..the ref just told the Kilkenny goalkeeper to puck out the ball....no wide signaled..no score given...I remember it clearly.. Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 12/09/2017 10:45:09 2045159 Link
1995 All-Ireland Final. Paddy Russell sends Charlie Redmond off and makes a muck off it. No problem Tyrone get on with it only for Paddy to disallow Tyrone's equalising point in the last seconds. Why did he not make amends as would have been the tradition in them days. A blow to Tyrone and the GAA (losing gate receipts for the replay). Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 12/09/2017 12:45:13 2045225 Link
Replying To 890202: "Horsebox77 County: Kerry Posts: 159 997532 Simple Answer is Yes; The ref can award a penalty for such an infringement of the rules ie. not retreating quck enough or decent, another strange one is if a 13metrer free is awarded and the defenders on the goal line move off at approach the kicker as they are in breach of the 13m rule a penalty kick is also awarded.. Still in all I have in my decades of GAA seen any of the above enforced in a game. I would suggest that you have never seen any of these things occuring because they are all against the rules. A ref cannot award penalty for a techinal foul (not retreating quickly enough is a technical foul) or dissent. If the defenders on the goal line move off the line to approach the kicker again that are as you say in breach of the 13 metre rule but the punishment for this is not to award a penalty but to award a free kick closer by 13 metre to the opponents goal up to the 13 metre line. A penalty cannot be awarded for these infringements" Ah my Wexford friend, the way you have to remember this in football is that a technical foul anywhere in the small rectangle (square) is a penalty. If the opposing player is less than 13M away from the point of the free kick then he is committing a technical foul and if he is standing in the square then its a penalty. So onto the first question: Strange but true. If the player abuses the referee within the large rectangle then an aggressive foul has been committed and its within the large rectangle - the result is a penalty. There is not two ways about that. The rules clearly state that its a booking and a free kick. For those of you who are wondering the exception is referring to the fact its a penalty kick not a free kick if it happens in the small rectangle. To use abusive language to a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official. PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS - (i) Order offender off. (ii) Free kick from where foul occurred, except as provided under Exceptions of Rule 2.2 zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 13/09/2017 16:09:34 2045689 Link
Replying To jaffa: "I attended a Reserve Football Championship final in Monaghan last night. The referee gave a 13 yard free for a pick up of the ground in the large rectangle against a defender (which wasn't actually off the ground). Another defender then gave the referee some verbal abuse for the decision, which led the referee to upgrade the 13 metre free to a penalty to the shock of everyone in the stand as no-one had seen this happening before. There was 2 points in the game at the time and this basically finished the tie as a contest. The defeated teams manager asked the referee after the game about the decision and the referee informed him it was in the rules. There were 3 other referees on duty (linesmen,4th official) and they said they had never heard of this. So is there such a rule?" I think I have answered your question for you however thats assuming that the player giving the abuse was in the large rectangle at the time. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 13/09/2017 16:11:07 2045692 Link
Replying To zinny: "Ah my Wexford friend, the way you have to remember this in football is that a technical foul anywhere in the small rectangle (square) is a penalty. If the opposing player is less than 13M away from the point of the free kick then he is committing a technical foul and if he is standing in the square then its a penalty. So onto the first question: Strange but true. If the player abuses the referee within the large rectangle then an aggressive foul has been committed and its within the large rectangle - the result is a penalty. There is not two ways about that. The rules clearly state that its a booking and a free kick. For those of you who are wondering the exception is referring to the fact its a penalty kick not a free kick if it happens in the small rectangle. To use abusive language to a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official. PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS - (i) Order offender off. (ii) Free kick from where foul occurred, except as provided under Exceptions of Rule 2.2" In the 6 years since i posted that comment I have realised that what i said was incorrect. 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 14/09/2017 10:42:57 2045902 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "I don't remember that (before my time) but surely he gave the wide even if the umpire didn't signal" thought I replied to your reply...no point was given or no wide was waved..the goalkeeper was told to puck out the ball to resume play...I remember it clearly... Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 15/09/2017 13:15:25 2046219 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "Surprised there's been no mention of the first referee to use video technology to make a decision. It happened in the Cavan v roscommon qualifier in 2015. Tomas Corr of Cavan tangled with a roscommon player off the ball a few minutes before half time. Play went on and the ball went out of play on two occasions (giving the umpires ample opportunity to alert the referee) before half time. Half time came and rte went to town on the incident showing it repeatedly and claiming that Corr should have been sent off. Cavan made a number if positional changes at half time and even substituted Corr (he hadn't been playing well). The players came out for the 2nd half but before throwing the ball In, the referee walked up to the Cavan dugout and sent Corr off meaning his replacement had to leave the field. Cavan had prepared for the 2nd half under the assumption that they still had 15 men on the field but were then forced to play with 14. It is unknown to this day if the referee or any of his officials actually saw a tv during half time or if they received a phone call or text from someone watching." The whole crowd saw what happened. It was a stupid move by the Cavan management thinking by taking Corr off they were going to get away with it. The ref was quite correct in what he did and there was nothing strange about it. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 15/09/2017 14:59:41 2046249 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "The whole crowd saw what happened. It was a stupid move by the Cavan management thinking by taking Corr off they were going to get away with it. The ref was quite correct in what he did and there was nothing strange about it." The decision was correct. But how did the referee come to know of the incident? His linesmen and umpires had amply time to raise it during the first half and never did. He can only then have found out by phone or by seeing half time footage. That is the reason it is strange! cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 15/09/2017 15:42:13 2046262 Link
Replying To Byanthon: "1995 All-Ireland Final. Paddy Russell sends Charlie Redmond off and makes a muck off it. No problem Tyrone get on with it only for Paddy to disallow Tyrone's equalising point in the last seconds. Why did he not make amends as would have been the tradition in them days. A blow to Tyrone and the GAA (losing gate receipts for the replay)." The referee was completely correct to disallow Tyrone's equaliser. It was touched on the ground by,not one, but two Tyrone players. HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 15/09/2017 17:09:44 2046282 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "The decision was correct. But how did the referee come to know of the incident? His linesmen and umpires had amply time to raise it during the first half and never did. He can only then have found out by phone or by seeing half time footage. That is the reason it is strange!" lol, no, he could have been told by the officials at half time, happens all the time at club level Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 15/09/2017 18:41:00 2046307 Link
Ahh well at least Meath no longer have the accolade of most bizarre decision ever. That now hands to Joe mcquillan and his inexplicable decision to award a free for one of the clearest penalties EVER. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/09/2017 17:33:34 2046767 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Ahh well at least Meath no longer have the accolade of most bizarre decision ever. That now hands to Joe mcquillan and his inexplicable decision to award a free for one of the clearest penalties EVER." Pffft... Todays decision didnt come close lol NaomhNaille (Donegal) - Posts: 124 - 17/09/2017 19:36:58 2046925 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Ahh well at least Meath no longer have the accolade of most bizarre decision ever. That now hands to Joe mcquillan and his inexplicable decision to award a free for one of the clearest penalties EVER." Don't know about that. I think his decision to award a free for 2 Dublin players running into each other could be up there! cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 18/09/2017 08:34:05 2047214 Link