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Replying To Viking66:  "Hope so too. They were very poor last week in a challenge game. They need to get a win to help with their confidence. They aren't bad players."
Who were they playing?

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 285 - 06/05/2024 12:21:11    2543311

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Pikeman96, can you show me the post where I said about a raft of 4G pitches? I said one in Wexford and it will pay for itself time and again because it means weather issues are mitigated a lot. I mentioned a raft of them nationwide when it was asked how to logistically play club championships nationwide.
Also, you and others say logistically combined colleges won't work but are you really saying in a GAA world where the county boards are able to pay for thousands for inter county managers, mindfulness coaches and a load of other nonsense we can't get 3-4 buses driven to Ferns a couple of times a week to train and a good coach to train them?
How is it working in Offaly, they are making it work?"
Without spending ages looking through every post on several threads on this site, here's one of them:

https://hoganstand.com/Forum/FindPost?MessageID=2506025
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Here's another:
https://hoganstand.com/Forum/FindPost?MessageID=2495482
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Okay, so you talk about "a couple" or "a few", rather than a raft, but you're still talking more than one.

On the other point - I and others didn't say that logistically, combined colleges won't or can't work. I for one just said there would be logistical challenges to be overcome, and you weren't giving any suggestions on how to do that.

And by the way, those challenges would go far beyond just having to arrange transport to training sessions.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2262 - 06/05/2024 12:51:40    2543315

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Replying To Viking66:  "Hope so too. They were very poor last week in a challenge game. They need to get a win to help with their confidence. They aren't bad players."
They need a win for.more than confidence. The season is on the line, it's knockout from here on in.
The seniors need to feel the same, regard Carlow and Kilkenny as knockout games. 2 wins guarantees a Leinster final slot- that could be against Kilkenny, Antrim, Dublin or Galway.
What is the point of targeting third? We can beat Kilkenny, and if we do, we can win Leinster and fzce whoever Munster throws up with confidence.
Limping into a quarter final has repeatedly seen us beaten.
Dublin/Antrim is now a huge game, the winners have a clear path to a Leinster final. Galway's backs are to the wall, I was hugely unimpressed with them. They never threatened to close the gap with an extra man.
Every Wexford person knows Henry Shefflin is a great hurling man, if they can't hurl for him....
Those 4 Minor All-Irelands haven't translated into anything yet.
They need two wins, and then it gets tricky. We could easily see a bunch of teams on the same points total. Kilkenny's annhilation of Antrim could yet be pivotal, but they have to beat Dublin, and I think that's an awwy game for them. Otherwise our game in Nowlan may be a knockout.

wendellgee (Wexford) - Posts: 26 - 06/05/2024 13:47:17    2543325

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Replying To wexfan09:  "Magpie2, I think constructive criticism is good, however, what has been written on social media on different forums over the past week has been utterly disgusting and shameful, so I would imagine this is what is being referred to. These are all amateur sports people who have to get up on a Monday morning and do a days work, and the personal attacks on these players and management that have been online the past week is uncalled for and unnecessary . I wonder how many of these people making these nasty personal comments have hurled at inter county level or hurled at all for that matter, very few I would imagine. They have no idea of the commitment it takes to do this. As I said, I'm not referring to the constructive criticism that has been made, it's very much warranted and needed, but as for the other stuff, these people have no place in a sporting world."
Spot on. I listened to the hurling podcast and then glanced at some of the comments on their page which were pretty disgusting. I'd imagine a lot of those commenting didn't even listen to the podcast. Thought the lads over it should be blocking content like that. No problem with the fair criticism at all. I was in Belfast and to say I was disappointed was putting it lightly. Last year was the worst I ever saw with Egan getting savage abuse about his appearance among other stuff.

The radio seems a bit quieter this year so maybe they have learned from last year.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 141 - 06/05/2024 14:04:33    2543326

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As an aside why do people around the country continue to sneer at Antrim hurling? While they haven't won a Senior All Ireland, they have had some great players in my time, from Watson to McManus. Their clubs have appeared in more AI club finals than clubs from Tipperary, Clare, Limerick, Waterford, Wexford or Dublin. They have won the same number of AI club titles as Clare and Dublin, and more than Waterford, Limerick or Wexford. Ok since I went to Queens at the start of the 90s they struggle to get their best hurlers to commit to intercounty, and it's only in the last couple of years their hurlers are physically at the same level as the top 9 as regards S and C, but I do definitely think they are the 10th best county in Ireland by themselves. Last year after Westmeath fighting back to beat us, Antrim absolutely destroyed them in the "relegation final". This last week they played far better against us than Galway did. Alot of pundits are jumping on the lazy "2 different Wexfords" bandwagon, but really on paper our starting 15 was probably weaker this weekend. 2 20/1 year olds started instead of 2 lads with nearly 10 years Senior intercounty experience. Obviously getting Liam Ryan back was massive for us though. Had he been playing the last 2 days we likely wouldn't have conceded the 4 goals that cost us the 2 wins. The other change was reversed with the 1st substitution when Dunbar came on for Jacko. If Galway and Antrim both play exactly the same as they both did against us in the last week or so, Antrim will beat Galway in Belfast in 2 weeks time.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12227 - 06/05/2024 14:47:57    2543329

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Replying To hunting:  "Who did they play in challenge game and how did it go viking?"
They were down 18 points at half time.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12227 - 06/05/2024 16:34:24    2543345

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Replying To wendellgee:  "They need a win for.more than confidence. The season is on the line, it's knockout from here on in.
The seniors need to feel the same, regard Carlow and Kilkenny as knockout games. 2 wins guarantees a Leinster final slot- that could be against Kilkenny, Antrim, Dublin or Galway.
What is the point of targeting third? We can beat Kilkenny, and if we do, we can win Leinster and fzce whoever Munster throws up with confidence.
Limping into a quarter final has repeatedly seen us beaten.
Dublin/Antrim is now a huge game, the winners have a clear path to a Leinster final. Galway's backs are to the wall, I was hugely unimpressed with them. They never threatened to close the gap with an extra man.
Every Wexford person knows Henry Shefflin is a great hurling man, if they can't hurl for him....
Those 4 Minor All-Irelands haven't translated into anything yet.
They need two wins, and then it gets tricky. We could easily see a bunch of teams on the same points total. Kilkenny's annhilation of Antrim could yet be pivotal, but they have to beat Dublin, and I think that's an awwy game for them. Otherwise our game in Nowlan may be a knockout."
If more than 2 teams are tied it goes to a mini league between the tied teams apparently. Pikeman?!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12227 - 06/05/2024 16:36:46    2543346

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Replying To Viking66:  "As an aside why do people around the country continue to sneer at Antrim hurling? While they haven't won a Senior All Ireland, they have had some great players in my time, from Watson to McManus. Their clubs have appeared in more AI club finals than clubs from Tipperary, Clare, Limerick, Waterford, Wexford or Dublin. They have won the same number of AI club titles as Clare and Dublin, and more than Waterford, Limerick or Wexford. Ok since I went to Queens at the start of the 90s they struggle to get their best hurlers to commit to intercounty, and it's only in the last couple of years their hurlers are physically at the same level as the top 9 as regards S and C, but I do definitely think they are the 10th best county in Ireland by themselves. Last year after Westmeath fighting back to beat us, Antrim absolutely destroyed them in the "relegation final". This last week they played far better against us than Galway did. Alot of pundits are jumping on the lazy "2 different Wexfords" bandwagon, but really on paper our starting 15 was probably weaker this weekend. 2 20/1 year olds started instead of 2 lads with nearly 10 years Senior intercounty experience. Obviously getting Liam Ryan back was massive for us though. Had he been playing the last 2 days we likely wouldn't have conceded the 4 goals that cost us the 2 wins. The other change was reversed with the 1st substitution when Dunbar came on for Jacko. If Galway and Antrim both play exactly the same as they both did against us in the last week or so, Antrim will beat Galway in Belfast in 2 weeks time."
The two week break will help Galway big time. Antrim will have had the Dubs the week before. Dublin vs Antrim will be an almighty battle, I'd say.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1945 - 06/05/2024 16:39:52    2543347

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Brilliant performance from both the line and the team on the pitch. Really warmed the heart. Great atmosphere the crowd were fantastic around me anyway, cheering everything and getting on to the ref for the least little thing. Good luck to the under 20 in Dublin(hard to see a win here tbh) and very best of luck to the minors on Saturday. I followed this team like all wexford teams over the last few years and in my opinion it is hard to see them been let down a little bit by the line over and over again but sure that just my opinion and maybe I am wrong but best of luck to all this week

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 963 - 06/05/2024 17:39:18    2543363

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Replying To Yellow:  "I don't think getting nasty or personal in comments is good but if you pay €25 for a ticket you are entitled to an opinion.

Requiring people to have hurled or hurled inter county or trained teams before they are allowed to post is just ridiculous.

Do we have to be elected to the Dail before we give out about politicians? Do we have to be qualified meteorologists before we give out about the weather?


Everyone here wants Wexford to do well and are never happier than when we see them win. But we also get frustrated when we see them turn in performances that are below par when we know they are capable of much more."
Is there some part of my post you'd like me to explain? As I said, I'm all for constructive criticism and it is very much warranted at times, but I said the nasty personal comments are unnecessary. And I was referring to those exact people who make these nasty personal comment in relation to if they've hurled or not, because yes, I think you should have some experience of it if you're willing to dole out nasty comments!!
Do you think because you pay €25 to go see a match that you're allowed to attack people online about it? Would you say it to their faces? Maybe the next day keep your €25 in your pocket and stay at home! Once again to clarify, I'm not talking about criticism that is constructive and what could/should be done differently, I'm talking about the vile stuff that being written on forums.
And on a side note, I understand people's frustrations when we all see below par performances, but I can guarantee you, not one player wakes up the morning of a match and decides he's going to give a below par performance , and there's no one can make them feel any worse than they do themselves when that's the performance they give.

wexfan09 (Wexford) - Posts: 32 - 06/05/2024 19:30:50    2543379

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Replying To wendellgee:  "They need a win for.more than confidence. The season is on the line, it's knockout from here on in.
The seniors need to feel the same, regard Carlow and Kilkenny as knockout games. 2 wins guarantees a Leinster final slot- that could be against Kilkenny, Antrim, Dublin or Galway.
What is the point of targeting third? We can beat Kilkenny, and if we do, we can win Leinster and fzce whoever Munster throws up with confidence.
Limping into a quarter final has repeatedly seen us beaten.
Dublin/Antrim is now a huge game, the winners have a clear path to a Leinster final. Galway's backs are to the wall, I was hugely unimpressed with them. They never threatened to close the gap with an extra man.
Every Wexford person knows Henry Shefflin is a great hurling man, if they can't hurl for him....
Those 4 Minor All-Irelands haven't translated into anything yet.
They need two wins, and then it gets tricky. We could easily see a bunch of teams on the same points total. Kilkenny's annhilation of Antrim could yet be pivotal, but they have to beat Dublin, and I think that's an awwy game for them. Otherwise our game in Nowlan may be a knockout."
There is nothing stopping Antrim/Dublin getting to a Leinster final if either can get the win in Parnell Park.

It will be a cracking match I feel as both teams know there is a lot at stake.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 745 - 06/05/2024 19:40:23    2543380

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Replying To Past hurler:  "There is nothing stopping Antrim/Dublin getting to a Leinster final if either can get the win in Parnell Park.

It will be a cracking match I feel as both teams know there is a lot at stake."
If either Dublin or Antrim win their remaining games they are guaranteed a Leinster final place. If we win our last 2 and one of them wins their remaining 3 we are guaranteed to play that team in a Leinster Final.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12227 - 06/05/2024 20:02:24    2543385

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Replying To Viking66:  "If more than 2 teams are tied it goes to a mini league between the tied teams apparently. Pikeman?!"
They'll beat Dublin

Wexforduser89 (Wexford) - Posts: 10 - 06/05/2024 21:13:58    2543396

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Replying To Viking66:  "As an aside why do people around the country continue to sneer at Antrim hurling? While they haven't won a Senior All Ireland, they have had some great players in my time, from Watson to McManus. Their clubs have appeared in more AI club finals than clubs from Tipperary, Clare, Limerick, Waterford, Wexford or Dublin. They have won the same number of AI club titles as Clare and Dublin, and more than Waterford, Limerick or Wexford. Ok since I went to Queens at the start of the 90s they struggle to get their best hurlers to commit to intercounty, and it's only in the last couple of years their hurlers are physically at the same level as the top 9 as regards S and C, but I do definitely think they are the 10th best county in Ireland by themselves. Last year after Westmeath fighting back to beat us, Antrim absolutely destroyed them in the "relegation final". This last week they played far better against us than Galway did. Alot of pundits are jumping on the lazy "2 different Wexfords" bandwagon, but really on paper our starting 15 was probably weaker this weekend. 2 20/1 year olds started instead of 2 lads with nearly 10 years Senior intercounty experience. Obviously getting Liam Ryan back was massive for us though. Had he been playing the last 2 days we likely wouldn't have conceded the 4 goals that cost us the 2 wins. The other change was reversed with the 1st substitution when Dunbar came on for Jacko. If Galway and Antrim both play exactly the same as they both did against us in the last week or so, Antrim will beat Galway in Belfast in 2 weeks time."
I still don't know whether Antrim believe they can actually beat Galway even after them beating us and us beating Galway

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 285 - 06/05/2024 21:14:39    2543397

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Replying To Viking66:  "They were down 18 points at half time."
Against who? And how did it finish?

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 285 - 06/05/2024 21:16:49    2543398

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Against who? And how did it finish?"
Lost the 2nd half by 4 or 5 apparently. Our Seniors.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12227 - 06/05/2024 21:31:06    2543401

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Replying To Viking66:  "As an aside why do people around the country continue to sneer at Antrim hurling? While they haven't won a Senior All Ireland, they have had some great players in my time, from Watson to McManus. Their clubs have appeared in more AI club finals than clubs from Tipperary, Clare, Limerick, Waterford, Wexford or Dublin. They have won the same number of AI club titles as Clare and Dublin, and more than Waterford, Limerick or Wexford. Ok since I went to Queens at the start of the 90s they struggle to get their best hurlers to commit to intercounty, and it's only in the last couple of years their hurlers are physically at the same level as the top 9 as regards S and C, but I do definitely think they are the 10th best county in Ireland by themselves. Last year after Westmeath fighting back to beat us, Antrim absolutely destroyed them in the "relegation final". This last week they played far better against us than Galway did. Alot of pundits are jumping on the lazy "2 different Wexfords" bandwagon, but really on paper our starting 15 was probably weaker this weekend. 2 20/1 year olds started instead of 2 lads with nearly 10 years Senior intercounty experience. Obviously getting Liam Ryan back was massive for us though. Had he been playing the last 2 days we likely wouldn't have conceded the 4 goals that cost us the 2 wins. The other change was reversed with the 1st substitution when Dunbar came on for Jacko. If Galway and Antrim both play exactly the same as they both did against us in the last week or so, Antrim will beat Galway in Belfast in 2 weeks time."
Doubt Antrim have the self belief to really go at Galway. More than likely they will feel a bit of a backlash. Antrim teams in both codes have traditionally struggled to get their clubs to buy into the county team. Same issue in the league again this year it looks like. Some fine players thats for sure but no more than ourselves it's delivering consistent performances that makes top players. Would love to see Antrim remain competitive but underage results in recent years seem very mixed.

We are seen as flaky by the rest of the teams, can't really argue against that perception based on results like Westmeath, Antrim, Offaly and even Dublin in recent years. A far from vintage KK team hammer the same teams routinely. Carlow will also target us big time for that reason.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 220 - 06/05/2024 22:17:36    2543407

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Replying To Viking66:  "They were down 18 points at half time."
Was told there was a practice game vs the Seniors the Sunday after the Antrim game, obviously lads who figured in that game didn't here, Jippo and Jacko both played all I was told. Guessing its this game?

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 06/05/2024 23:18:49    2543413

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Replying To Viking66:  "Hope so too. They were very poor last week in a challenge game. They need to get a win to help with their confidence. They aren't bad players."
Disappointing about the u20s so far, Leinster was always tough this year with Galway, Kilkenny and Offaly all a high standard but they should be more competitive with the players available, hopefully they'll prove us wrong.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 06/05/2024 23:21:24    2543416

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I still don't know whether Antrim believe they can actually beat Galway even after them beating us and us beating Galway"
I think Dublin will beat Antrim and Galway will beat Antrim in Belfast

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 165 - 06/05/2024 23:24:06    2543417

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