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Should the throw just be allowed? Personally, I'm fed up of 3-4 players bottling a player up anyway. If they leaving themselves open to a thrown ball, maybe they might be less swarm defending? ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1141 - 03/08/2023 17:09:25 2498920 Link 0 |
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A cancer on the game,are you for real,the game is more skillful now then ever.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 779 - 03/08/2023 20:36:19 2498944 Link 0 |
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That would be simply giving in to the problem. Even those who think there is nothing wrong with throwing wouldn't want to legalise it either,like as if they think there a fine art in most handpasses which are largely nothing but fancy throws even when theres clear space between the ball and hand. Ex tipp hurler Conor O Dononvan has a proposal that will be trialed in this years fresher hurling league. Ball can only be passed off the hurley or by switching the hands. Please god this trial gets the respect it deserves and we will finally find a cure for hurling's cancer.
ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 04/08/2023 10:06:11 2498967 Link 2 |
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Wish you would stop calling it cancer you clown. I've friends and family died with that.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12132 - 04/08/2023 10:42:19 2498976 Link 0 |
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Players get "bottled up" because they don't play the ball quickly. Serves them right. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1452 - 04/08/2023 10:46:35 2498978 Link 0 |
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Modern defensive systems involve players tackling in groups of 2 or 3, especially around the middle 3rd. That just didn't happen back in the 90s, except around the goals, the game was much more zonal and players were expected to win their own battles. The only way players won't be bottled up sometimes these days is if they hit the ball aimlessly away, which tbh looks really #### and is no entertainment at all. Or draw 15 boxes on the pitch and tell the lads starting there they aren't allowed to leave them. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12132 - 04/08/2023 11:13:21 2498985 Link 1 |
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Making it mandatory to hand pass off the hurley is a good idea. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 04/08/2023 11:17:18 2498989 Link 0 |
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Try it, would be the best answer to that! The speed and intensity of modern game means that bottling up players is default in many parts of field in many games. Without the hand pass, the game would be one endless ruck and series of throw ins or frees.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2595 - 04/08/2023 11:30:53 2498993 Link 0 |
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The alternative? Your hurley stick! realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 04/08/2023 11:48:09 2498996 Link 1 |
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How does a bottled up player get rid of the ball if it needs to go off the hurl first? Or manage to get it to the other hand without dropping the hurl if there 2-3 opponents all over him? StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1737 - 04/08/2023 12:09:08 2498999 Link 0 |
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Not true. Its the handpass thats causing many of the rucks. How else can you stop someone throwing the ball?
ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 04/08/2023 12:30:35 2499008 Link 0 |
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Sorry, so have I and most people unfortunately but you get my point dont you? Call it a disease thats rotting the game of its core values.
ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 04/08/2023 12:33:43 2499013 Link 1 |
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Ah you are OK I'm having a bad morning in the workshop. I'm actually not that bothered about handpasses myself. Current ailments of the modern game like diving and holding tacklers hurls or free arms to draw frees, cuteness or dark arts as they get called by commentators but both are essentially cheating, and dangerous play like shoulders to the head would be things I'd personally be more bothered about tbh.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12132 - 04/08/2023 12:48:18 2499018 Link 1 |
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Indeed. And there are easily spotted unlike the angels dancing on a head of a pin distinction that separates legitimate hand passes from people consider to be cheating. We're talking millimetres and milli seconds here.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2595 - 04/08/2023 14:42:32 2499046 Link 0 |
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Free arm tackles, holding, charging into contact, pulling, dragging are all problems in the modern game. But consider for moment that the handpass maybe central to these issues? The game is becoming a wrestling match to disposes the player in possession and a hurley is useless to you unfortunately. When a player is surrounded by 4 players he should not have the simple option of throwing the ball out of the situation. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 04/08/2023 16:59:41 2499065 Link 1 |
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The problem is that players diving or grabbing opponents hurl happens 2-3 times a game, there are approx 100 hand passes in the modern inter county game, at a conservative estimate 30% are fouls, that's obviously 30 instances of fouling which means it's a huge issue Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1507 - 04/08/2023 17:54:00 2499072 Link 1 |
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Some skill alright, to throw the ball.
2maroonjerseys (Galway) - Posts: 26 - 05/08/2023 00:07:45 2499089 Link 0 |
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2-3 times a game or a minute?
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1141 - 05/08/2023 14:48:38 2499139 Link 0 |
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Hand passing a ball quickly and accurately with clear separation IS a great skill.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12132 - 05/08/2023 18:41:42 2499167 Link 1 |
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IF there is CLEAR SEPARATION!!!
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1452 - 05/08/2023 19:53:36 2499174 Link 2 |