(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post
|
Not sure if this is covered by the rules but when the referee decided to cancel the Kerry free and throw up the ball should the throw-up be at the off the ball incident or where the ball was when he blew the whistle which was forty metres out the field.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 687 - 31/07/2023 18:48:15 2498199 Link 0 |
|
Not sure if it's been brought up but can you clarify when he booked Costello I think it was for the accidental head contact (or maybe Basquel), stopped the game and booked him, but then he threw the ball up even though Kerry had had possession in defence? I was watching it thinking he's blown for a free to Kerry and booked the Dublin fella harshly enough for an accidental collision, but then when he threw the ball up I didn't understand it at all? Not sure if anything came from it my memory isn't that good even though the match was only yesterday ha, all I remember was it was in the first half as it happened down towards the Canal End CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 106 - 31/07/2023 19:07:19 2498205 Link 1 |
|
Totally disagree with you, Gough was excellent yesterday. He let the play go every chance he got, he consulted umpires whenever he needed to. It's the umpires job to give 45's.
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 301 - 31/07/2023 19:36:03 2498212 Link 3 |
|
Well then it's a silly rule… he booked both players but Kerry were penalised because he made a wrong call… Why did he consult the umpire…? Because Fitz asked him to…? Why did he not consult the umpire in the same manner in the first half..? Bad refereeing.. He also gave a free in to Dublin for nothing in the last minute and then blew up before the full injury time was played…. I wonder does he or you know the rules..?
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1973 - 31/07/2023 20:02:22 2498220 Link 1 |
|
If he had such a good game as you say he wouldn't be booed…. would he..?
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1973 - 31/07/2023 20:04:17 2498221 Link 1 |
|
Good man! Stick with the script and the well played narrative.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1844 - 31/07/2023 20:36:30 2498231 Link 0 |
|
You must really hate the Dubs! One thing for sure is that you know absolutely nothing about how to referee a game. Outstanding referee
Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 31/07/2023 20:44:02 2498232 Link 3 |
|
Is it time to have a conversation about increasing the length of matches? I know with added time games often end up being de facto 40 minutes or so a half. But should we formalise things and increase halves to 2 x 40? Players will surely have the physical conditioning to do it. And it might help to stretch tight games. Good games in particular seem to go by too quickly. We're 40 minute halves tried previously? Aoife1234 (Antrim) - Posts: 17 - 31/07/2023 22:14:52 2498243 Link 0 |
|
Not really textbook referring. Kerry had the ball on a counter attack and he stopped the game in error. This "textbook referring" turned safe Kerry possession that would likely have lead to a scoring opportunity into a 50/50 contest which Dublin won resulting in a Dublin score.
brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 292 - 31/07/2023 22:35:14 2498245 Link 0 |
|
Once you're happy, that's all that matters. You've had a tough couple of years, God love ye!
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1844 - 01/08/2023 07:56:16 2498255 Link 1 |
|
Cheapas gur fear baise a bhí ionatsa seachas fear boise!
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1844 - 01/08/2023 09:13:51 2498258 Link 0 |
|
There were 80 minute finals in hurling and football in early 70s. All one sided as I recall?, although fitness levels would not have been as high back then. Think the 1974 football final was 80 minutes and Galway were just dead on their feet at the end as far fitter Dublin camped on the 21 yard line. Don't think there is any need with the extra time played for injuries. A clock would maybe come in handy although in fairness the amount of time wasting over past ten years for injuries has declined dramatically. Saw that on Sunday where Gough rightly let play continue while players were treated for minor ailments and sent Dublin doctors on their way on one occasion. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2651 - 01/08/2023 09:36:53 2498262 Link 3 |
|
It's a good question and not one that is stated in the rule book but some interpretation is required. Let me try to explain. It all depends on who the referee interprets to be in play. It's not always who has the ball or where that ball is! Examples: Two players are tugging/wrestling with each 100m from the ball and the ball has no chance of coming near them anytime soon then those players could not be considered to be in play. A referee may stop play and caution them if appropiate but the game would be restarted where the play was and not where the incident took place. (A good ref will wait till there is a break in play of course unless there is a red card incident) Now take the Fitzsimons/Clifford incident. Let's say one was fouling the the other in that incident then as there was a clear possibility that the ball would be played into them then they are considered to be in play. The referee had initially signalled a free to Clifford from where that tussle took place but after correcting his decision he had to throw the ball up from there as he determined that they were in play. I hope that also answers CCFabu's question. Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 01/08/2023 09:53:30 2498269 Link 0 |
|
Think '74 was back to the 70 minutes. And I also think the 70 minutes+ is fine. I thought a lot of the players were out on their feet coming towards the end on Sunday (and a few other games this year), despite the exceptional conditioning. Asking for another 10 minutes (plus injury time - you'd still have to have it) would too much for players (and fans who generally start clock watching from about 50 minutes on). The game can be slow at times but when it breaks open it's full on for the players with quick restarts etc. There's nowhere to hide. 80 minutes would require teams to play it slow for the first 50-60 minutes otherwise they'd be knackered coming down the home stretch. Eoin Murchan did one great run down the pitch in the second half and after that I couldn't see him again. My view wasn't great and I thought he'd been taken off but he was still on at that stage. He was just bunched. When the few subs came on it felt like the tempo increased again. 80 minutes of that would be too much for eveyone. Get rid of the mark and the game will be fine (IMHO). PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 159 - 01/08/2023 09:55:58 2498271 Link 0 |
|
100% agree. At least at intercounty level
Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 01/08/2023 09:56:12 2498272 Link 0 |
|
Another opinion clouded in bias. "Free for nothing". Didn't you watch it? Arm above the shoulder. That's a free every day of the week. Even though he knew a free was the winning of the game he didn't hesitate to call it CORRECTLY!
Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 01/08/2023 10:01:34 2498275 Link 0 |
|
Tá súil agam nach bhfuil tú ag tabhairt sóirt masla dom!
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2651 - 01/08/2023 10:03:45 2498276 Link 2 |
|
Best referee in the game. If you have read the Dublin thread before the game you will see that some Dublin supporters have still not forgiven David Gough for correctly sending off Johnny Cooper in the drawn All Ireland several years ago. However many of them know in their hearts that is was another correct decision. At least I hope that is the reason they were booing him. Either way, is was very poor form from some supporters having just won another All Ireland final. Most of the genuine Dublin supporters however are great rather that the"jump on the bandwagon merchants" that you never see in March and April. Delighted in particular for Dessie Farrell as he took on a very difficult job, and did not offer bland excuses over the last couple of years when they were beaten by small margins. Fair play to the team for getting over the line once again. Some time to be a genuine Dublin supporter. Enjoy this week and the winter. Make sure you buy the team lots of pints and give the rest of us a chance. letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 535 - 01/08/2023 10:04:53 2498277 Link 1 |
|
I can't recall the incident but if the referee stops play for an serious injury then play is restarted with a free to the team in possession (from which they cannot score directly) where the play was. If no team was in possession then it is a throw up
Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 01/08/2023 10:06:53 2498279 Link 1 |
|
He didn't stop it in error. Two players were fouling each other.
Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 01/08/2023 10:08:43 2498281 Link 1 |