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Leinster U20HC tier 2 round 1 Carlow 0-10 Kerry 2-10, Laois Hire O'Moore Park FT A good win for Kerry today. I'm not sure why our minors were placed in Leinster Tier 1 but Tier 2 is sensible as our U20 hurlers have seen today. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7909 - 01/04/2023 15:35:04 2468144 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Leinster U20HC tier 2 round 1 Carlow 0-10 Kerry 2-10, Laois Hire O'Moore Park FT A good win for Kerry today. I'm not sure why our minors were placed in Leinster Tier 1 but Tier 2 is sensible as our U20 hurlers have seen today." Offaly 2-21 Westmeath 1-17.Meath v Antrim posponed.Laois 1-17 Kildare 11. jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1467 - 01/04/2023 17:31:37 2468162 Link
All-Ireland U20HC B quarter-finals Roscommon 12-20 Tyrone 3-7, Dr Hyde Park FT Big win for Roscommon. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7909 - 02/04/2023 16:50:50 2468296 Link
U20B should be tiered like Leinster. Awful hammerings handed out. And it should be set up to provide more than one game for each county. Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 03/04/2023 09:55:53 2468463 Link
So Westmeath only lost 2 games in the Leinster championship. To Offaly by 7 points and to Wexford by 5 points. Both finalists. Laois only lost once to Westmeath. The 2 tier system hides the vast improvement that the Midlands counties have made at this level. skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 14/05/2023 09:53:12 2478238 Link
I think they'd be better off with 2x tier 1 groups and 1x tier 2 group. Tier 1 winners to semi, 2 to QF, third to PreQF. Tier 2 winners and runners up to preQF. That way the tier 1 group games actually matter. Not like the farce this year that Wexford came last in their group and were put into a quarter final. Example tier 1 groups: Offaly Kilkenny Galway Laois Wexford Dublin Westmeath Kildare Tier 2: Antrim Down Meath Carlow Wicklow skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 14/05/2023 09:56:36 2478240 Link
Replying To skirge7: "I think they'd be better off with 2x tier 1 groups and 1x tier 2 group. Tier 1 winners to semi, 2 to QF, third to PreQF. Tier 2 winners and runners up to preQF. That way the tier 1 group games actually matter. Not like the farce this year that Wexford came last in their group and were put into a quarter final. Example tier 1 groups: Offaly Kilkenny Galway Laois Wexford Dublin Westmeath Kildare Tier 2: Antrim Down Meath Carlow Wicklow" It was a farce for sure. Dublin were the only team to play their best team during the tier 1 round robin. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12155 - 14/05/2023 12:38:04 2478291 Link
The minor and U20 provincial structures are all about giving games. No need to get too perplexed by it. In the minor football in Munster, Kerry and Cork play in a quarter-final where both make the semi-final! The winner v Tier 2 runners-up and the lower v Tier 2 winner. The McDonagh final will be a curtain raiser for U20 All-Ireland final of Wexford or Offaly v Cork or Clare. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7909 - 14/05/2023 17:37:10 2478389 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "The minor and U20 provincial structures are all about giving games. No need to get too perplexed by it. In the minor football in Munster, Kerry and Cork play in a quarter-final where both make the semi-final! The winner v Tier 2 runners-up and the lower v Tier 2 winner. The McDonagh final will be a curtain raiser for U20 All-Ireland final of Wexford or Offaly v Cork or Clare." Offaly seniors a potential curtain raiser to Offaly U20s. Shows the disrespect the gaa have on the fixtures. They never thought a Joe mcdonagh county might make the u20 final. There's lads who could play in both matches who will now have to pick skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 15/05/2023 01:02:04 2478540 Link
Replying To skirge7: "So Westmeath only lost 2 games in the Leinster championship. To Offaly by 7 points and to Wexford by 5 points. Both finalists. Laois only lost once to Westmeath. The 2 tier system hides the vast improvement that the Midlands counties have made at this level." And Westmeath could've beat Wexford, owned the ball in the 2nd half, hit too many wides and spurned a great goal chance late on. stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 543 - 15/05/2023 10:36:25 2478602 Link
Replying To stonemadbeany: "And Westmeath could've beat Wexford, owned the ball in the 2nd half, hit too many wides and spurned a great goal chance late on." Yes it was a good game Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12155 - 15/05/2023 11:24:36 2478634 Link
Replying To skirge7: "Offaly seniors a potential curtain raiser to Offaly U20s. Shows the disrespect the gaa have on the fixtures. They never thought a Joe mcdonagh county might make the u20 final. There's lads who could play in both matches who will now have to pick" Talk about a glass half empty. Instead of seeing it as potentially a massive day of great colour and excitement for Offaly, you're complaining about the order the matches would be played in. Not sure what your point is either re. Offaly lads potentially having to choose which match to play in. The same rule that you can only play either U20 or senior in a seven-day period, but not both, applies equally to all counties. Not just Joe McDonagh Cup counties. For instance, if Wexford win Leinster U20 and make the All-Ireland Final, nobody could line out in both U20 Final on May 27 and in senior match v Kilkenny the following day. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 15/05/2023 18:33:08 2478797 Link
Replying To skirge7: "Offaly seniors a potential curtain raiser to Offaly U20s. Shows the disrespect the gaa have on the fixtures. They never thought a Joe mcdonagh county might make the u20 final. There's lads who could play in both matches who will now have to pick" Typical GAA situation to occur! Offaly seniors being a curtain raiser to their U20s! :-D legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7909 - 16/05/2023 10:08:10 2478866 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Typical GAA situation to occur! Offaly seniors being a curtain raiser to their U20s! :-D" I was more worried about lads who would otherwise be playing both matches rather than who plays first. skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 17/05/2023 08:38:58 2479143 Link
The final in Carlow is now sold out. 12,000 tickets. Why wasn't it put in a bigger venue like Portlaois? It like some official looked and said Offaly are a weak hurling county they won't bring a crowd. In the Minor Kilkenny v Galway was put in Portlaois. skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 17/05/2023 08:43:21 2479144 Link
Replying To skirge7: "I was more worried about lads who would otherwise be playing both matches rather than who plays first." If the game is put off til midweek then those lads won't be able to play in both anyway. As Pikeman already posted that's the rule for everyone. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12155 - 17/05/2023 09:52:56 2479159 Link
Replying To skirge7: "The final in Carlow is now sold out. 12,000 tickets. Why wasn't it put in a bigger venue like Portlaois? It like some official looked and said Offaly are a weak hurling county they won't bring a crowd. In the Minor Kilkenny v Galway was put in Portlaois." Portlaoise would've been nearly a home tie for you. Nowlan Park has no lights. Wexford Park would've been a home tie for us. There was talk of Parnell Park but that would've been a long drag midweek for all of us. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12155 - 17/05/2023 09:54:45 2479160 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Portlaoise would've been nearly a home tie for you. Nowlan Park has no lights. Wexford Park would've been a home tie for us. There was talk of Parnell Park but that would've been a long drag midweek for all of us." Carlow is perfectly fine and fair for both counties, it should be a cracking atmosphere with a sell out crowd, if it was played somewhere else someone somewhere would have a gripe! keepitlit (Longford) - Posts: 36 - 17/05/2023 10:27:14 2479179 Link
12,000 packed into Carlow on a Sunny hot evening between two very passionate hurling counties! Atmosphere will be electric! This is what hurling days are all about, this is going to be absolute cracker of a match Past hurler (None) - Posts: 745 - 17/05/2023 10:34:48 2479183 Link
Before Covid, U20/U21 finals were part of the home and away agreement between counties. For instance, Wexford v Kilkenny 2019 was in Wexford Park; Wex v KK 2017 was in Nowlan Park; Offaly v Dublin 2016 was in Tullamore, etc. It moved to neutral venues in 2020 and 2021 when there were crowd restrictions in place. Wexford v Kilkenny last year was played in Carlow for the simple reason that neither Nowlan Park nor Wexford Park had lights at the time (same reason Nowlan Park can't be used this evening). But Wexford Park now has lights, and the last Wexford v Offaly knockout match was played in Tullamore (2019), so you could strongly argue that by rights, we should have home advantage this evening instead of going up to Carlow. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 17/05/2023 10:42:04 2479187 Link