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Your assessment on Donegal here has hit the nail on the head for me. Patience required but they completely went over the top there. Donegal have some really quick runners and a keeper that has one of the best kick outs about. Also have some big men that can do damage with long balls in and men that can take points from distance. So theres definitely plenty to work with. I'm just afraid that we'll never see this teams true potential with yesterdays tactics. As for Murphy, he's not many years left especially when we are dogging him all over the pitch.
fielder (Donegal) - Posts: 137 - 30/05/2022 11:54:22 2421022 Link 0 |
we are embarrassment bonnar needs to go red.hugh (Donegal) - Posts: 175 - 30/05/2022 11:58:38 2421024 Link 0 |
I wouldn't blame ward or any defender for not shooting, as they are afraid for there lives if they miss and get a roasting from the sideline or from two or three certain players. This is management's fault, and it is drilled into players from management that get the ball to certain players that can shoot and retain possession at all cost. The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 687 - 30/05/2022 12:04:10 2421027 Link 0 |
Exactly. I know Michael probably feels he can contribute more dictating things out the field but he shouldn't want to or need to be fulfilling that role for us anymore. Fair enough if we're ahead in the closing stages and we need a cool, experienced head around the middle to retain possession. But in terms of how we should be approaching games, i.e. to go and win them, rather than hoping we don't lose, Murphy has to play inside. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9171 - 30/05/2022 12:37:55 2421038 Link 0 |
Who's this great young fella your on about. He must be a n Conal man and if he is he should be well used to not shooting. Players are equally to blame as management I posted about players fouling , missing frees, taking the wrong option, being 2 points up and not pushing on, do you honestly think this was part of the game plan, but my two posts today were not posted. By the timing of your post yesterday you weren't even at the game. Surprise surprise, Derry showed us how to support a team yesterday. You support a team by going to matches not being a know it all by abusing people on social media after games..
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2417 - 30/05/2022 12:57:07 2421053 Link 0 |
It was an intriguing game to watch on the TV. Derry the better team no doubt. High levels of fitness and skill on display from Derry and Donegal looked very lifeless AntrimJim (Antrim) - Posts: 39 - 30/05/2022 13:29:52 2421072 Link 0 |
Murphy was on the Sunday game a few years ago and basically told people himself why he comes out. He wants to get his hands on the ball. On the size 5 as he put it. I suppose the logic being that his say 30 touches a match out the field will have a bigger influence than say his 10 touches inside. Up to now the moving in and out has worked I think yesterday proved that he probably just needs to keep on the inside from now on. Others need to stand up out the field. Mcbrearty stayed up the field yesterday but he doesn't really offer himself as a man you can kick into anymore. He's probably lost a yard of pace from his injury and he's not as good at murphy at winning a ball kicked into him. I'd let murphy play that upfront role on his own and use him as the fulcrum to the attack. Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 699 - 30/05/2022 13:43:05 2421080 Link 0 |
Derry the better team, and should have won the game in normal time, two bad wides. Donegal did not look good enough. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1756 - 30/05/2022 13:45:52 2421082 Link 0 |
Donegal's use of subs under this management is poor, only 3 subs used yesterday in the 70 minutes, even though some players had emptied the tank and had nothing left. Then they made no changes to the 15 that started extra time, meaning we were limited to 3 subs, should be starting extra time with a couple fresh players. What's the point in having players on the bench if they're not going to be used. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 479 - 30/05/2022 13:54:11 2421091 Link 1 |
Don't want to get in to any arguments about what's what peilledoir, but don't be daft thinking any management would want a team to go to penalties, a lottery, and your saying cautious cautious if your a top class player which we believe we have you make space for yourself regardless of instructions. How many times did P mc B run into the corner yesterday and when he has to turn to his favourite foot lost the ball. The whole of the country knows how to mark paddy out of it but him and all his experience couldn't see to make a run inside for once to receive a ball over the top, and he's not alone there's a few bucks there with loads of experience this past 10 yrs that have seriously regressed this Yr and if there not big enough to question management about the way he wants them to play I just don't know. Let the younger bucks get a chance in the qualifiers cause maybe theyl play without fear of being shown up. There's lads there with a lot of miles in the legs that aren't leading by example any more and if you think that's the management's fault then good luck to you. Yesterday was bad enough without today getting worse by arguing the toss. Tyrion (Donegal) - Posts: 160 - 30/05/2022 13:57:00 2421092 Link 0 |
Ye are wasting your time here talking about particular matches or murphy etc.. for years i have said bonnar hasn't a clue and we have lost a golden generation of footballers and on top of that we are embarrassing ourselves with the style of play !! red.hugh (Donegal) - Posts: 175 - 30/05/2022 14:05:00 2421099 Link 2 |
Likewise i am not here to argue but you'll find the vast majority of people both within the county and national aren't blaming the players and that speaks volumes.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 813 - 30/05/2022 14:23:33 2421105 Link 1 |
If Derry had kicked over one of those 2 last chances in normal time they would have only been doing the Donegal fans a favour an putting us out of our misery, in the last minute of injury time we held possession in case we got turned over it seemed to me anyway rather than go forward and take a shot at goals which was I'd imagine what an normal team trying to win a game would have done, if you don't score at least put the ball dead and the ref was going to blow up for the draw more than likely with the kickout, we would hardly have deserved to win it but we could have nicked it then had we any ambition of winning the game instead of trying not o lose it. Michael Murphy must be so sick of carrying this team, I'm sick myself of watching the way we play and what is killing me is I know if we opened up and varied our play we had the beating of Derry, we just don't have the leaders off or on the field apart from the mighty Murphy of course. as someone said unless we win the All Ireland this year (snowballs chance in hell springs to mind) then we need a change of leadership, it's not working and it's getting worse far as I can see. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2764 - 30/05/2022 14:33:10 2421113 Link 2 |
I find this sort of idea of the game yesterday kind of odd. Nothing against you personally AntrimJim it's a type of post and I've seen it replicated among pundits across the country. But how do you tally Derry having high level of fitness and skills vs Donegal looking lifeless (and from some pundits: poor, disgraceful, pedestrian, lacking ideas, take your pick from the above!) - and yet Donegal only lose by 2 points after ET? By all accounts if Donegal were as bad as many have been saying, we'd have been beat out the gate. I am as sore as anyone about the defeat but I don't understand this idea that Derry were miles ahead of us. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 30/05/2022 14:50:04 2421122 Link 0 |
It's an amateur sport so nobody blames players, they give their best as in every county. The view of the country is Donegal have Murphy who somehow keeps them competitive in league and championship. Ballybofey is also a great help to Donegal teams. However there isn't a view across the country that Donegal have enough to win an All Ireland and not a lot of people are surprised Derry won the Ulster Championship yesterday. It's unlikely a change of management would have much of an impact. The big worry for Donegal is how much longer Murphy can carry the team. Donegal need to avoid Mayo or Tyrone in the Qualifers but even then QF is likely their limit this season. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 30/05/2022 14:57:08 2421131 Link 0 |
Derry were a long way ahead. They were more economical with the ball and had the know how when it came to closing the result.
AntrimJim (Antrim) - Posts: 39 - 30/05/2022 15:21:13 2421141 Link 0 |
I hope for Derrys next game it doesn't clash with a Derry City game cause the soccer fans in clones yesterday will be up in arms trying to choose. Some of them were absolutely disgraceful but everyone could see that they aren't used to big days in clones. naomh_conaill_4 (Donegal) - Posts: 482 - 30/05/2022 15:25:40 2421144 Link 2 |
No bigger culprit than Matty Donnelly , he can actually fall backwards as if he was clotheslined. Embarrassing to watch.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2022 - 30/05/2022 17:02:50 2421201 Link 2 |
I know you must be annoyed with Donegal, but I haven't seen an improvement over the past few years, losses to Cavan, Tyrone, and now Derry, prove your point. Yesterday's final, short on scores was competitive, like Connacht. Saturday's fare was one sided, and predictable. I cut the lawn for the Munster game, and endured the Leinster Final. We have problems, maybe an open draw is an option, and drop the provincial system. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1756 - 30/05/2022 17:30:51 2421227 Link 0 |
First of all, no its not a NC player Secondly all i ever hear is excuses for bonner, its the manager's job to improve players and the team. And ask any real Donegal supporter's on the street or at games, they want Bonner and his management team to step down. We all have had enough. There was big derry support there yesterday because there supporter's actually believe in there manager and the fact its been so long since they had success. I have meet and been talking to Die hard Donegal supporter's who live and breathe gaa, that stopped following Donegal as long as Bonner is there. And finally, i dont really care what you say, i realised a long time ago that your football knowledge is very limited and you come across in your posts as childish. Anyone making excuses for Bonner at this stage, i would have to question there football knowledge. The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 687 - 30/05/2022 17:55:56 2421235 Link 1 |