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Replying To Galway9801:  "Take your hiding and focus on connacht"
That's true. That's what Mayo should do. But shouldn't Galway do the same?

I know that it wasn't a hiding at the hands of Roscommon. It was worse, a one point loss; the sorest loss of all.

I bet ya that it is easier for Mayo folk to stomach that hiding to Kerry, than it is for Galway folk to stomach their failure to Roscommon.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1937 - 04/04/2022 16:44:28    2409598

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Clifford is just magic!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 04/04/2022 17:15:31    2409615

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Replying To Joxer:  "Clifford was like a Rolls Royce out there, being marked by a Ford Mondeo. He's a smashing baller. Reminds me of Maurice in many ways and before that the great Blue Panther. He just seems to effortlessly glide by defenders. I'd say he's a nightmare to mark. The Kerry forwards look to be hitting their stride. If they can stay fit, they'll give every opposition serious problems. But the Kerry backs are still suspect IMO. They'll cruise uncontested to a QF but I think a revitalised Dublin (if that even happens) or an Ulster team could cause them some problems. An on-form rebounding Mayo may even disrupt them. It's hard the look past them though. The massive fund injections from the Kerry Group industry is paying dividends in spades."
Can you put a figure on the monetary support from the Kerry Group?
I never bought into the idea that available funds helped create good teams. Dublin were and will be good because have excellent players in abundance. Every county team has great players but not all have twenty excellent ones. By the way Dublin had about twenty five at the one time.....interchangeable.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 04/04/2022 17:29:02    2409617

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Excellent performance by Kerry.

The boy Clifford is just a joy to watch. I think he'll surpass all the great forwards we've seen to come out of Kerry over the years.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13719 - 04/04/2022 18:29:14    2409634

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Clifford was magical, better all round player than Maurice.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 04/04/2022 20:59:29    2409657

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​ Sheehan is spot on about Horan on the examiner pod ,
Wish some of our fans would show such a winning mentality...
To be fair the footballing Mayo fans have previously voiced their concerns , but they were told that they were complaining by the copper face jack fans , and "it isn't all about the result ", we've had great days too.. fans..

Its time to pull your heads out of the sand and acknowledge the obvious flaws in the final 3rd , otherwise their will be no need or pressure on Horan to get it right.. if hes constantly been given a free pass regarding this longstanding issue,

Vish (USA) - Posts: 89 - 04/04/2022 21:42:54    2409660

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Replying To Mfs:  "I wonder what kind of vile comment did Clifford make to Jordan Flynn just before Clifford and O'hora picked up the yellow cards. It didn't look like Clifford was enquiring about the Jordan's injury. Disgusting to go mouthing to a lad lying on the ground with a suspected broken ankle. I would have expected more from Clifford but the media won't say anything bad about him. Also I think Jack Barry should have got a straight red for the challenge."
What's your views on Aidan O'Shea diving,one ofthe few things he's able do regularly, that and the amount of time he ran into the backs of Kerry players who'd already got rid of the ball?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 04/04/2022 22:05:29    2409661

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Replying To oneoff:  "What's your views on Aidan O'Shea diving,one ofthe few things he's able do regularly, that and the amount of time he ran into the backs of Kerry players who'd already got rid of the ball?"
Jack Barry has possibly ended Jordan Flynn's season with Mayo and your issue is with Aidan O'Shea bumping into someone. Cop on.

Mfs (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 05/04/2022 09:39:52    2409669

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Replying To Mfs:  "Jack Barry has possibly ended Jordan Flynn's season with Mayo and your issue is with Aidan O'Shea bumping into someone. Cop on."
Answer the question I asked you. It's not that hard now is it?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 05/04/2022 10:13:34    2409685

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Replying To Gaa Fan:  "Can you put a figure on the monetary support from the Kerry Group?
I never bought into the idea that available funds helped create good teams. Dublin were and will be good because have excellent players in abundance. Every county team has great players but not all have twenty excellent ones. By the way Dublin had about twenty five at the one time.....interchangeable."
Know nothing about Kerry Group funding but funding plays a huge part in success but not in my opinion by spending on the county team. Dublin spent very wisely by helping to fund loads of coaches and improving participation. That is what has the long term effect.

County teams need a certain level of funding to be successful. No argument there but it is not what won the 6 in a row for Dublin or what keep Kerry in the top 2 or 3 for the last 100 years.

Tradition/Culture is hugely important. Kerry have such a tradition of great footballers that the odds are kids are being coached in most schools by All Ireland winners. That means a high level of coaching from a young age and then it becomes self fulfilling. If I went to school in Corofin I guarantee you I would be two footed, but that wasn't always the case

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1838 - 05/04/2022 10:28:42    2409691

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Replying To Mfs:  "I wonder what kind of vile comment did Clifford make to Jordan Flynn just before Clifford and O'hora picked up the yellow cards. It didn't look like Clifford was enquiring about the Jordan's injury. Disgusting to go mouthing to a lad lying on the ground with a suspected broken ankle. I would have expected more from Clifford but the media won't say anything bad about him. Also I think Jack Barry should have got a straight red for the challenge."
And what color card would you have given Ryan O'Donaghue for his reckless challenge on Gavin White after he scored the first goal?There should be retrospective action taken on him and he should be suspended for his next game or maybe even the season.

Johnnyprophet (Galway) - Posts: 39 - 06/04/2022 12:38:13    2409946

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "That's true. That's what Mayo should do. But shouldn't Galway do the same?

I know that it wasn't a hiding at the hands of Roscommon. It was worse, a one point loss; the sorest loss of all.

I bet ya that it is easier for Mayo folk to stomach that hiding to Kerry, than it is for Galway folk to stomach their failure to Roscommon."
Not really, foreverwrong, the goal was promotion, goal achieved.
Whole new ball game now for both counties.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1741 - 06/04/2022 13:11:23    2409959

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Clifford is a fine footballer no question, but just look at the quality ball he got from the other Kerry players, , O Hora was left one on one with Clifford, Clifford received perfect ball into him, he then raises his forearm to push off the defender and gets away with it each by the Ref, The main problem is the other Mayo players were not putting preasure on the Kerry players putting the ball into Clifford and Horan doing nothing to change that, like a sweeper or double marking Clifford. The main problem is with other Mayo players letting good ball delivered into Clifford and Horan doing nothing to prevent that. Bet Clifford wont get the same service when they play Tyrone in Championship and Clifford wont be left in a one on one all day. Moral ofstory done blame O Hora, as for the banter between them, we dont know what was said what and who started it, one dirty remark can cause a lot of trouble.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 409 - 06/04/2022 14:16:56    2409976

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I agree Clifford would nt get the same room v Tyrone but having said that he scored 5 points from play v Trone in last years semi final before going off injured.Also you are right in saying people don't know what was said if anything at all but O hora was seen mouthing of and antagonising Clifford.Although you don't know you are suggesting maybe Clifford said something,Just because there is an aggressor does nt mean anything was said.i was at game and O Hora started on Clifford from the get go as I was watching and hats fact, You are trying to suggest something else I feel.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3681 - 06/04/2022 15:31:58    2409995

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "That's true. That's what Mayo should do. But shouldn't Galway do the same?

I know that it wasn't a hiding at the hands of Roscommon. It was worse, a one point loss; the sorest loss of all.

I bet ya that it is easier for Mayo folk to stomach that hiding to Kerry, than it is for Galway folk to stomach their failure to Roscommon."
I bet ya it isn't. It's a Division 2 final, the work was done to get there. Galway were beaten by some brilliance from Murtagh. I thought they sat back a bit too much in the first half for a team with quality forwards, should have had more of a cut at Roscommon defence. Rossies retreated a nice bit too at times in the first half. Nearly like watching basketball for spells, I don't mean over-handpassing, plenty of skills on display, but packing their defences. I thought Galway should have given in more and quicker ball to Finnerty and Comer. Methinks, after seeing how we defended quick ball on Sunday, they'll try that earlier on Sunday fortnight. Should be a cracking game. And the Rossies haven't cut the grass yet either!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7375 - 06/04/2022 17:04:21    2410012

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I agree Clifford would nt get the same room v Tyrone but having said that he scored 5 points from play v Trone in last years semi final before going off injured.Also you are right in saying people don't know what was said if anything at all but O hora was seen mouthing of and antagonising Clifford.Although you don't know you are suggesting maybe Clifford said something,Just because there is an aggressor does nt mean anything was said.i was at game and O Hora started on Clifford from the get go as I was watching and hats fact, You are trying to suggest something else I feel."
Video replay shows the Flynn received the hit about 5 yards outside the 45. O'Hora had run up the field following the play.
Clifford was standing inside the D.
When play was stopped, he walked from inside the D out to where Flynn was on the ground. At the same time, O'Hora was returning from his run up the field.
At this point the they engaged in the tussle.

Maybe Clifford said nothing to Flynn, but he did walk 20m directly to him. Maybe he asked Flynn if he was ok, and that got O'Hora ******?

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 06/04/2022 19:35:15    2410036

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "I bet ya it isn't. It's a Division 2 final, the work was done to get there. Galway were beaten by some brilliance from Murtagh. I thought they sat back a bit too much in the first half for a team with quality forwards, should have had more of a cut at Roscommon defence. Rossies retreated a nice bit too at times in the first half. Nearly like watching basketball for spells, I don't mean over-handpassing, plenty of skills on display, but packing their defences. I thought Galway should have given in more and quicker ball to Finnerty and Comer. Methinks, after seeing how we defended quick ball on Sunday, they'll try that earlier on Sunday fortnight. Should be a cracking game. And the Rossies haven't cut the grass yet either!"
Galway are the outsiders of 3 to win Connacht. Mayo 4/5 Ross 11/4 Galway 3/1. Mayo hammered Galway in the League this time last year and after a shaky start had a comfortable win in the end in last years final. Since then they have come out second best in the AI and DIV 1 League finals. Inside a week Galway lost twice to the Ross conceding 02-40 in the process, and our goalie had close to a man of the match game before being injured. The 1 point between the sides flatters us a bit when you take into account how easily we were opened. Also Ross won the physical battle, with Harney doing a good job for his team. I expect Galway to do better and and be more up for it in Castlebar. However, while we may have more of a scoring threat up front than the green and red, we are unlikely to get anything like the same share of possession from kickouts as them. Mayo are sure to have a few training sessions, A v B on the new unique surface in McHale park which will be an advantage. I would not rule out a Galway win but I see Mayo edging it. Remember Ross put both of us out a couple of years back and are a much better team now. I can see Galway, if they do not come through in Connacht, doing OK via the back door. It is great to have 3 teams in Div 1 but not great that the winner Sunday week may then have to head for a Humbug fixture in London. Should be some great days out over the next month or 2.

giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1226 - 06/04/2022 20:40:24    2410044

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Replying To BlastCalyle:  "Video replay shows the Flynn received the hit about 5 yards outside the 45. O'Hora had run up the field following the play.
Clifford was standing inside the D.
When play was stopped, he walked from inside the D out to where Flynn was on the ground. At the same time, O'Hora was returning from his run up the field.
At this point the they engaged in the tussle.

Maybe Clifford said nothing to Flynn, but he did walk 20m directly to him. Maybe he asked Flynn if he was ok, and that got O'Hora ******?"
Maybe Clifford said nothing.As ve stated already I was at game and O hara started at Clifford right frombeginning of game and on numerous occasions before the Flynn incident ever even happened.Are you trying to make excuse for O Hara s sledging and constant harassment.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3681 - 07/04/2022 10:32:05    2410079

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Maybe Clifford said nothing.As ve stated already I was at game and O hara started at Clifford right frombeginning of game and on numerous occasions before the Flynn incident ever even happened.Are you trying to make excuse for O Hara s sledging and constant harassment."
Yeah, funny, only one moment of it caught on camera.
I was at the match too.
And at that moment, with his teammate down injured and in obvious distress, and O'Hora having just dispossessed Clifford, is the moment he loses the rag with him.
No chance Clifford was trying to distract the ref from an obvious black card for Barry?
Clifford without doubt the best player in the country - but your notion that butter wouldn't melt in his mouth is ridiculous.

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 07/04/2022 13:20:42    2410132

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Replying To BlastCalyle:  "Yeah, funny, only one moment of it caught on camera.
I was at the match too.
And at that moment, with his teammate down injured and in obvious distress, and O'Hora having just dispossessed Clifford, is the moment he loses the rag with him.
No chance Clifford was trying to distract the ref from an obvious black card for Barry?
Clifford without doubt the best player in the country - but your notion that butter wouldn't melt in his mouth is ridiculous."
I never said butter would nt melt in his mouth so don't be making false accusations. I have called out Clifford when he was wrong in the past. I'm merely stating facts and I was watching Clifford /Ó Hora from start of game and Ó Hora started mouthing and shoving him straight away. Now maybe you did nt see it but I did. Im merely pointing out that some posters are saying naybe this and naybe that to try make out Ó Hora was just reacting to an action from Clifford which is not the case. The Flynn incident was 2nd half
Ó Hora was at it from start of game. Make all the excuses you want but that's a fact.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3681 - 07/04/2022 14:01:44    2410146

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