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Replying To Pericles: "As you know G&R, it's like lucky dip trying to second guess JH and the selectors and what I picked could have been way off. I think the ff line is decent and showed well the last day, so unless Cillian is thrown in, possibly for Carr, then I don't see any strong reason to change before throw-in. There's also a possibility that Jason could be moved to the half line if Cillian gets a start, but I don't know who'd give way... possibly Conor Loftus to provide a bit more midfield backup on the bench? We're a bit thin there. As much as I like Mullin as a footballer, he's no Lee (not yet anyway) when it comes to concentration levels to man mark and between that and Stephen Coen's on/off form we could be a bit vulnerable down the middle. I suspect there'll be some switching going on, but can't guess who'll play where or on who. Plunkett will be expected to get up the field, as he did in a number of games so far, and add a point or two if he can find space. That's the only obvious thing which jumps out in terms of defensive player roles. I like the team from midfield up, and there are loads of forward options to throw in, but the key will just be keeping Rory Byrne out of the action and keeping his day quiet. If he's a busy man and Kerry get the requisite 2 or even 3 three-pointers I can't see our lads countering that. But at least it looks like we're getting closer to a recognizable starting team with Galway on the horizon and just Paddy, Diarmuid and Rob likely to be brought back in when fit. I haven't heard anything about the status of Brendan Harrison's latest setback... any word on that front at all?" No word. I'm living in Meath but I'll ask the lads at home. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7375 - 02/04/2022 11:35:36 2409029 Link
Replying To Kerry15: "Seanie won't start for us, we haven't named one dummy team all year and no reason to start now. He's an option off the bench though which is a big boost. Hennelly, Durcan and O'Connor are huge losses for Mayo though, so I'll be worried if we can't beat Mayo missing 3 of their really key players. The Tom O'Sullivan Ryan O'Donoghue match up will be a brilliant battle. Who to put on Clifford is a tough one for Mayo, I'd consider Keegan the best man for the job." Mayo were good at sticking with the announced team Kerry15 till the Kildare match but that went out the window with 5 changes. It'll surprise me as much one way or the other if Seanie starts or doesn't... I'm not sure Jack O'Connor has become OCD about sticking with the programme! Fully agree on the match-ups and whoever gets the greater Clifford will likely play a key role in deciding the result, the man is virtually unmarkable. Looks like there could be a shower or two but no desperate wind tomorrow, so reasonable enough by comparison with some match day conditions over the course of the league. Hopefully both teams perform and the better team on the day wins with clean bills of health all round. Looking forward to the Galway/Rossie game almost as much and I hope they knock lumps out of eachother:) Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 02/04/2022 13:01:03 2409046 Link
A lot of Optimism in Mayo again. This time it really is false optimism. Kerry are the form team. Mayo only looked good against Dublin and Kildare who both went down. Kerry won't want to lose two games in a row v Tyrone and then Mayo (considering the all ireland will be between those 3). Kerry have All star forwards on the bench and Mayo have a lot of forwards missing (O Connors x2, Conroy) and are missing Durcan who is also good for 2 points per game. That's probably a certain 1-7 of score's. Likely to be replaced by 0-4 points from their replacements. So Mayo v Kerry starting with a 6 point headstart for Kerry will only end one way. There is also talk of taking Mullen off Clifford, which would allow Clifford up to 1-7 by himself. That will be the difference in the and. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1140 - 02/04/2022 14:08:22 2409057 Link
Because it's only the league, it'll probably be a decent game. In reality, the outcome doesn't really matter, and neither team will be in top gear. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 02/04/2022 14:24:45 2409059 Link
Replying To Pericles: "As you know G&R, it's like lucky dip trying to second guess JH and the selectors and what I picked could have been way off. I think the ff line is decent and showed well the last day, so unless Cillian is thrown in, possibly for Carr, then I don't see any strong reason to change before throw-in. There's also a possibility that Jason could be moved to the half line if Cillian gets a start, but I don't know who'd give way... possibly Conor Loftus to provide a bit more midfield backup on the bench? We're a bit thin there. As much as I like Mullin as a footballer, he's no Lee (not yet anyway) when it comes to concentration levels to man mark and between that and Stephen Coen's on/off form we could be a bit vulnerable down the middle. I suspect there'll be some switching going on, but can't guess who'll play where or on who. Plunkett will be expected to get up the field, as he did in a number of games so far, and add a point or two if he can find space. That's the only obvious thing which jumps out in terms of defensive player roles. I like the team from midfield up, and there are loads of forward options to throw in, but the key will just be keeping Rory Byrne out of the action and keeping his day quiet. If he's a busy man and Kerry get the requisite 2 or even 3 three-pointers I can't see our lads countering that. But at least it looks like we're getting closer to a recognizable starting team with Galway on the horizon and just Paddy, Diarmuid and Rob likely to be brought back in when fit. I haven't heard anything about the status of Brendan Harrison's latest setback... any word on that front at all?" Rumour, hopefully untrue, that Harrison could have a career threatening cartilage injury. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7375 - 02/04/2022 15:50:25 2409070 Link
Given some of the absentees, tomorrow is a big day for several Mayo forwards, thinking Loftus, Carr, Carney, and maybe one or two off the bench like Darren Coen, Orme or Fergal Boland. Ryan O' Donoghue won't be able to do it on his own every week, and we will be in trouble when he has an off-day. Some of the others need to start chipping in with a few scores, ideally from play. I'm very surprised that neither Tony Brosnan nor Boland will start given their performances in the game down in Tralee, but there you go. Will be interested to see if Aido actually lines out at centre-forward as stated, or if he drops deep as per the previous meetings of the sides. I imagine Kerry will try to target our kickout given our relatively inexperienced goalie. Hard to see us scoring the goals we need and preventing Kerry from getting one or two at the other end. Kerry by 4-6 points. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 02/04/2022 19:28:43 2409121 Link
Replying To tirawleybaron: "A lot of Optimism in Mayo again. This time it really is false optimism. Kerry are the form team. Mayo only looked good against Dublin and Kildare who both went down. Kerry won't want to lose two games in a row v Tyrone and then Mayo (considering the all ireland will be between those 3). Kerry have All star forwards on the bench and Mayo have a lot of forwards missing (O Connors x2, Conroy) and are missing Durcan who is also good for 2 points per game. That's probably a certain 1-7 of score's. Likely to be replaced by 0-4 points from their replacements. So Mayo v Kerry starting with a 6 point headstart for Kerry will only end one way. There is also talk of taking Mullen off Clifford, which would allow Clifford up to 1-7 by himself. That will be the difference in the and." Some of the followers come across as rather naïve , thinking there's no reason why they cant win this game, or the All-Ireland for that matter, but many follow the team for the sheer love and excitement of it all , but choose to ignore the other side of the coin, Scrutiny and reality... Even casual observers and those on the outside can see Mayo have suffered too many injuries, suffering heavy losses in the weakest apartment on the pitch , "The forward-line" Conroy's injury will prove to be the mortal blow in 2022 , similar to O Connor loss last year. He was due to have kicked on to a higher level this year, just like ROD has done so far this season, more or less carrying the entire frontline during the league campaign to date, Kerry could well win this by 6/7 points pulling up. Vish (USA) - Posts: 89 - 02/04/2022 21:41:27 2409141 Link
Kerry to win by hugh amount today , but they wont win Sam. jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 409 - 03/04/2022 08:51:54 2409155 Link
Replying To Gleebo: "Given some of the absentees, tomorrow is a big day for several Mayo forwards, thinking Loftus, Carr, Carney, and maybe one or two off the bench like Darren Coen, Orme or Fergal Boland. Ryan O' Donoghue won't be able to do it on his own every week, and we will be in trouble when he has an off-day. Some of the others need to start chipping in with a few scores, ideally from play. I'm very surprised that neither Tony Brosnan nor Boland will start given their performances in the game down in Tralee, but there you go. Will be interested to see if Aido actually lines out at centre-forward as stated, or if he drops deep as per the previous meetings of the sides. I imagine Kerry will try to target our kickout given our relatively inexperienced goalie. Hard to see us scoring the goals we need and preventing Kerry from getting one or two at the other end. Kerry by 4-6 points." We probably won't do things the easy way today Gleebo! It looks like a more defensive 15 to try containing Kerry rather than getting at their defence which has improved but we should try and test it. Aidan dropping into midfield or half backs to slow them down. Was thinking in the second half in Carrick they could have stuck him in around the square to see how he fared, might be needed later on there. Not sure why Carr is worthy of a start. Very good player when he's on form, maybe he's flying in training. If Carney keeps progressing upwards he could be a star man today. Boland is more than capable of shining. I'd start Kevin McLoughlin, our most underrated player and perhaps the most underrated player in Ireland the past 12 years. We can't afford a poor first half against Kerry or the game will get away from us. He brings leadership, a calm head and an ability to get vital scores in games. No point in springing him in the second half if Kerry confidence is high and they're pushing on. Bring on the other experienced lads off the bench then to keep us rolling. Other than the Dublin game I don't think we've been so impressive in the league yet we find ourselves in the final with plenty of scope for improvement. We used our experience to get points in tight games like Donegal and Monaghan and we need the experienced players to show the way for the younger lads. I think we'll shade it by a point or two. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7375 - 03/04/2022 08:55:41 2409157 Link
Best of luck to both teams today! From all your Friends in Div 2. ;D TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/04/2022 10:15:50 2409162 Link
Dont expect Mayo to win today, surprised they are in a final, dont think they ever really got going yet. The league was inconsistent for all the teams bar Kerry. Not sure how Mayo stop Clifford, Mullen hasnt the instincts to man mark and Keegan has lost bit of pace to do it. So maybe O Hora with a sweeper back there as well but not Aidan O Shea, they need a sweeper with pace maybe Hession so he can get to Clifford. Cant see who Stephen Coen can mark today, he hasnt the pace to keep with any of the Kerry forwards. Byrne will be really tested today on kickouts, hopefully he comes through it but depends on the players out the field creating options and space. If Doherty can show well again today, get few scores then he might be good for championship start. He has the experience and can kick a score, its movement and pace thats lacking but that will come with more games. Carr needs to have a good game, its in him but i dont know has he the mentality, he is injury prone and i think he doesnt play through the pain with some injuries where he would be able too. Kerry by 4 tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 603 - 03/04/2022 10:53:10 2409164 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Rumour, hopefully untrue, that Harrison could have a career threatening cartilage injury." Desperate hard luck for the lad if that's true G&R and after such a long hard slog to get back to fitness. A top class defender who, unlike many of Mayo's other options currently, is a natural in the position. Let's hope it turns out to be like the Aidan one from last year... a scare or not quite as bad as they might fear. Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 03/04/2022 11:42:02 2409171 Link
The sun shiner mayo fans will show up for the game 10/15 mins before kick-off, The footballing fans without rose tinted specs will be in croke park already with 1 eye on the Galway/Ross game, Vish (USA) - Posts: 89 - 03/04/2022 13:47:34 2409200 Link
Replying To Vish: "The sun shiner mayo fans will show up for the game 10/15 mins before kick-off, The footballing fans without rose tinted specs will be in croke park already with 1 eye on the Galway/Ross game," You can slag off Mayo about plenty of stuff, but they have the best support in the country bar none. Strange comment. Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 133 - 03/04/2022 14:06:51 2409204 Link
Roscommon going well in the minor. Galway may be too strong for them in 2nd half - the're big lads. timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 03/04/2022 14:23:12 2409207 Link
Replying To timmyhogan: "Roscommon going well in the minor. Galway may be too strong for them in 2nd half - the're big lads." Some lovely football from both sides but very few heavy tackles going in, has the feel of a challenge game so far. Some run and point from Damien Comer near the end of the first half though- could he be back to his best? Galway pushing up on the Rossie kick out, would imagine that they will try to replicate that in a few weeks, especially if Mayo have a relative rookie in goal. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 03/04/2022 14:45:25 2409211 Link
How bad is Oisín's injury? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7375 - 03/04/2022 15:55:39 2409246 Link
Gaa go not working in the UK.. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 03/04/2022 16:06:27 2409254 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "Gaa go not working in the UK.." The Russians!!! updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 03/04/2022 16:24:08 2409265 Link
Kerry appear fitter and have more natural footballers who take scores with ease. Mayo 6 down and its likely to increase to 10+ before the games done. Vish (USA) - Posts: 89 - 03/04/2022 16:47:42 2409275 Link