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Hard to see anything but a Kerry win next Sunday. The following 8 players are unlikely to play due to injury. All 8 would be starting if it were not for injury.

Robbie Hennelly
Brendan Harrison
Paddy Durcan
Eoghan McLaughlin
Mark Moran
Diarmuid O'Connor
Tommy Conroy
Cillian O'Connor

Mfs (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 29/03/2022 15:37:14    2408139

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Replying To Mfs:  "Hard to see anything but a Kerry win next Sunday. The following 8 players are unlikely to play due to injury. All 8 would be starting if it were not for injury.

Robbie Hennelly
Brendan Harrison
Paddy Durcan
Eoghan McLaughlin
Mark Moran
Diarmuid O'Connor
Tommy Conroy
Cillian O'Connor"
Eoghan McLaughlin and Mark Moran are back fit. You hardly consider Moran a starter though? Bryan Walsh and Fionn McDonagh are injured and would be more likely to play.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 29/03/2022 15:59:58    2408151

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Replying To Mfs:  "Hard to see anything but a Kerry win next Sunday. The following 8 players are unlikely to play due to injury. All 8 would be starting if it were not for injury.

Robbie Hennelly
Brendan Harrison
Paddy Durcan
Eoghan McLaughlin
Mark Moran
Diarmuid O'Connor
Tommy Conroy
Cillian O'Connor"
We'll have a team and bench that's good enough to beat Kerry on Sunday. We'll see how the rult falls on Sunday. For me a fit Mark Moran wouldn't be starting and it's debateable if Eoghan McLaughlin would start. He was fit enough to be a sub last Sunday.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7376 - 29/03/2022 16:02:47    2408155

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Replying To Mfs:  "Hard to see anything but a Kerry win next Sunday. The following 8 players are unlikely to play due to injury. All 8 would be starting if it were not for injury.

Robbie Hennelly
Brendan Harrison
Paddy Durcan
Eoghan McLaughlin
Mark Moran
Diarmuid O'Connor
Tommy Conroy
Cillian O'Connor"
Doubtful if Harrison,McLaughlin would be starting. Moran certainly wouldn't be. Mayo beat Kerry in 2019 league final without Cillian O'Connor.

Strongest possible Mayo team if Horan chooses to pick it Sunday and if Diarmuid O'Connor and Hennelly are certainly ruled out.

Byrne
Keegan O'Hara Mullen
Coen Durcan Plunkett
Flynn Ruane
K McLoughlin A O'Shea Loftus
Doherty O'Donoghue, Orme


I'm expecting a close game with a hair's breadth separating the two by the end of it. Might be touch of shadow boxing going also as there is a strong possibility that this will be the All Ireland final pairing in July.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3358 - 29/03/2022 16:03:11    2408157

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "We'll have a team and bench that's good enough to beat Kerry on Sunday. We'll see how the rult falls on Sunday. For me a fit Mark Moran wouldn't be starting and it's debateable if Eoghan McLaughlin would start. He was fit enough to be a sub last Sunday."
Ye'll murder us around the middle as we have too many small players in our half forward line in Seán O'Sheas absence, all of Savage Moynihan Paud Clifford O'Brien Burns are under 6 ft Adrian Spillane the only 1 over 6ft but he's more a third midfielder.

Il be surprised enough if we win but I'd be happy if we do, we need a hard game to set us up fot the allireland quarter final in 10 weeks time.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 29/03/2022 16:21:56    2408171

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If Mayo want to win, they'll probably have to produce a high intensity running game, using extreme physicality, but they are risking incurring more injuries, so I hope they treat it as a last chance saloon for some squad members to stake a claim before Horan's championship culling is called.

Hopefully its a good day for football, where we see a casual shoot-out with some good kicking on display by both teams.

Vish (USA) - Posts: 89 - 29/03/2022 16:29:21    2408176

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Doubtful if Harrison,McLaughlin would be starting. Moran certainly wouldn't be. Mayo beat Kerry in 2019 league final without Cillian O'Connor.

Strongest possible Mayo team if Horan chooses to pick it Sunday and if Diarmuid O'Connor and Hennelly are certainly ruled out.

Byrne
Keegan O'Hara Mullen
Coen Durcan Plunkett
Flynn Ruane
K McLoughlin A O'Shea Loftus
Doherty O'Donoghue, Orme


I'm expecting a close game with a hair's breadth separating the two by the end of it. Might be touch of shadow boxing going also as there is a strong possibility that this will be the All Ireland final pairing in July."
Jack Carney will start ahead of Loftus or Kevin McLoughlin going on form.

James Carr should start ahead of Orme after a promising performance vs Kildare.

Stephen Coen isn't playing well this year but may well start since he's captain. Personally I'd play McBrien or Brickendon full back and have Mullin in the half back line instead of Coen.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 29/03/2022 16:38:01    2408184

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Doubtful if Harrison,McLaughlin would be starting. Moran certainly wouldn't be. Mayo beat Kerry in 2019 league final without Cillian O'Connor.

Strongest possible Mayo team if Horan chooses to pick it Sunday and if Diarmuid O'Connor and Hennelly are certainly ruled out.

Byrne
Keegan O'Hara Mullen
Coen Durcan Plunkett
Flynn Ruane
K McLoughlin A O'Shea Loftus
Doherty O'Donoghue, Orme


I'm expecting a close game with a hair's breadth separating the two by the end of it. Might be touch of shadow boxing going also as there is a strong possibility that this will be the All Ireland final pairing in July."
That's a good 15, it's hard to predict who James Horan will start. I think we need to be pushing Mullin forward and looking for scores rather than letting Clifford dictate the game. If we're going to keep his score lower manmarking him, well at least trying to, then don't use one of our best attacking defenders who's a good defender but not our best. Need to mix up the running and kicking game too. I'd go with this 15:

Byrne
Keegan, McBrien, O'Hora
Brickenden, Mullin, Durcan
Flynn Ruane
Hession, K McLoughlin, Carney
Boland, Doherty, O'Donoghue

A very unlikely risky enough starting 15 but giving the less inexperienced players a start and plenty of experience to bring off the bench.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7376 - 29/03/2022 16:43:56    2408187

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "We'll have a team and bench that's good enough to beat Kerry on Sunday. We'll see how the rult falls on Sunday. For me a fit Mark Moran wouldn't be starting and it's debateable if Eoghan McLaughlin would start. He was fit enough to be a sub last Sunday."
No so sure about that, especially against a team like Kerry, or the Tyrone's of this world..
5 of that 8 are nailed on starters if they re fit, and that excludes Harrison and McLaughlin who'd make a strong bench even stronger.
That's over 33% missing from your starting 15 ,
A mixture of composure, doggedness , experience and raw pace missing from that group there.
Kerry by 5+

Vish (USA) - Posts: 89 - 29/03/2022 17:20:04    2408202

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Replying To Mfs:  "Hard to see anything but a Kerry win next Sunday. The following 8 players are unlikely to play due to injury. All 8 would be starting if it were not for injury.

Robbie Hennelly
Brendan Harrison
Paddy Durcan
Eoghan McLaughlin
Mark Moran
Diarmuid O'Connor
Tommy Conroy
Cillian O'Connor"
Ah what rubbish..Durcan will play, Moran ? He's hardly ever played regularly. Cillian hasn't played in 2 years at this stage, prob finished anyways .
If James Horan stays at home ye may have a slight shot

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 29/03/2022 19:20:10    2408224

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In the interest of some consistency I think it shouldn't be too far off the team that started v Kildare, with only a couple of changes (mainly due to the injuries):

R Byrne; L Keegan, D McBrien, P O'Hora; M Plunkett, O Mullin, P Durcan; J Flynn, M Ruane; C Loftus, A O'Shea, J Carney; J Carr, J Doherty, R O'Donoghue.

It equally wouldn't surprise me if only half of this team started, final or no final and the Galway game just weeks away.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 29/03/2022 19:49:00    2408229

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Replying To Mfs:  "Hard to see anything but a Kerry win next Sunday. The following 8 players are unlikely to play due to injury. All 8 would be starting if it were not for injury.

Robbie Hennelly
Brendan Harrison
Paddy Durcan
Eoghan McLaughlin
Mark Moran
Diarmuid O'Connor
Tommy Conroy
Cillian O'Connor"
Kerry have a similar injury list. Sean O'Shea and David Moran are huge losses.

Dan O'Donoghue
Paul Murphy
Mike Breen
Stefan Okunbor
David Moran
Sean O'Shea
Dara Moynihan (might be back)

Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 959 - 29/03/2022 19:54:28    2408231

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There is no point listing Tommy Conroy as we know he is unfortunately gone until this time next year. Moran Moran? I saw him play one good game v Galway in the league two years ago. Diarmuid O Connor will be a huge loss this Sunday and was man of the match in the league final win over Kerry three years ago.

I wouldn't get over excited by a win or defeat this Sunday with the championship looming.

Anyone have any info on Cillian?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11245 - 30/03/2022 08:24:05    2408243

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Looking forward to it; should be a good, close game. I don't think defeat would unduly bother Mayo. They'd just motor on in that way that Mayo do.

However, defeat might rock Kerry's confidence somewhat, and cause them to start questioning themselves.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1937 - 30/03/2022 11:25:49    2408293

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Looking forward to it, what ever teams go out it should be a good game.
If Durcan was able for the bench last weekend the he should be able to start this weekend..
Diarmuid O Connor is a loss, and to add to it it mean Aidan goes to 11 which I think is not good, maybe he could follow Morley in when he drops back to play sweeper and occupy him.
The 2 McLoughlins are looking more like impact subs, Eoghan hasn't improved his football skills, gets caught on the ball and his kick passing is not great. Kevin not able for a full game, and coming on suits him i think.
Haven't heard anything on Cillian O Connor, not much worse injury to have got, might never get back to inter county level, hope he does tho he still had much to offer.

Will O Hora go on Clifford this time? Mullin didnt do great on him last time..
Stephen O Brien will need to be man marked, always a dangerous player and hes going well

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 603 - 30/03/2022 13:07:19    2408339

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Looking forward to it; should be a good, close game. I don't think defeat would unduly bother Mayo. They'd just motor on in that way that Mayo do.

However, defeat might rock Kerry's confidence somewhat, and cause them to start questioning themselves."
Ya a defeat on Sunday could rock the Kerry teams confidence or it could galvanise and drive them on, it's all speculation, and we won't know for sure till July. it's amazing how you went straight for the nuclear option though or maybe it's just wishful thinking eh?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 30/03/2022 13:09:04    2408340

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Ya a defeat on Sunday could rock the Kerry teams confidence or it could galvanise and drive them on, it's all speculation, and we won't know for sure till July. it's amazing how you went straight for the nuclear option though or maybe it's just wishful thinking eh?"
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Defeat is more likely to galvanise either team, a rude awakening, things to work on before Galway or Cork. I think we got a bit complacent after winning in 2019 and Roscommon put us back in our box.

Tim Moynihan above talking to Ref this week. Good auld banter.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7376 - 30/03/2022 14:38:26    2408382

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Ya a defeat on Sunday could rock the Kerry teams confidence or it could galvanise and drive them on, it's all speculation, and we won't know for sure till July. it's amazing how you went straight for the nuclear option though or maybe it's just wishful thinking eh?"
I could have easily qualified it by saying that a team quite often (see, Tyrone last year) learns more from a loss than from a win, and that a defeat for Kerry might actually steel them for the rest of the year.

I refrained from saying that, as I wanted to gauge the sensitivities of the Kerry reaction.

I got it!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1937 - 30/03/2022 14:57:22    2408391

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "link

Defeat is more likely to galvanise either team, a rude awakening, things to work on before Galway or Cork. I think we got a bit complacent after winning in 2019 and Roscommon put us back in our box.

Tim Moynihan above talking to Ref this week. Good auld banter."
GreenandRed, you get it. You see the bigger picture, and the overall banter! Thumbs up from Florida.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1937 - 30/03/2022 15:05:20    2408395

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I could have easily qualified it by saying that a team quite often (see, Tyrone last year) learns more from a loss than from a win, and that a defeat for Kerry might actually steel them for the rest of the year.

I refrained from saying that, as I wanted to gauge the sensitivities of the Kerry reaction.

I got it!"
What did you get?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 30/03/2022 16:19:58    2408442

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