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The gaa have failed to market second tier football competitions for years. Three would be completely out of their depth.
Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 27/02/2022 10:13:27 2402630 Link 2 |
The essence of the new format is based on formats which have already failed. Pundits are already saying that if teams aren't careful they could end up playing in the Tailteann Cup. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1421 - 27/02/2022 10:32:51 2402632 Link 2 |
Am I right in saying it looks like cork would be in tailteann cup,they play Kerry in semi in munster so cant make final..they are struggling in the league,or will they play in Sam Maguire because they are a division 2 team? CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2243 - 27/02/2022 10:51:05 2402633 Link 1 |
As the champions league has evolved over the last 30 years, the group stage has become the weak point of the competition as it is predictable and boring. Including a similar stage in the GAA competition is a mistake and will probably be even worse as with only one team getting eliminated it will be full of dead rubbers. Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 27/02/2022 11:22:59 2402642 Link 1 |
Delighted, takes away the long grass Counties can hide in in easier provinces and makes the Championship fairer, you have to trust quality will rise to the All Ireland Series. The Championship will be fairer and better because of it. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4446 - 27/02/2022 11:34:24 2402644 Link 2 |
I can't make up my mind about it, something had to change, not sure if this is going to work either, not easy getting it right I suppose, try this first and then maybe tweak it as it goes, Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2777 - 27/02/2022 12:08:18 2402652 Link 0 |
I dont know about other people rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 27/02/2022 12:16:20 2402656 Link 1 |
It appears from what Seán Kelly wrote in The Examiner that if a Division 3 or 4 county win the Tailteann Cup, they will qualify for the Top 16 of the following year. That's the fairest carrot they can ask for and they have gotten it.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7922 - 27/02/2022 12:25:13 2402659 Link 0 |
You're undervaluing the status of All-Ireland Intermediate and Junior Club championships in recent years. The Tailteann Cup final will reward a winner coming from Div. 3 or 4 a place in the Top 16 table.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7922 - 27/02/2022 12:27:13 2402661 Link 0 |
I feel this dividing of counties is all about television rights and absolutely nothing to do with improving 'weak' counties prospects. There'll be about a minute's highlights of Tailteann Cup games on the Sunday game, it is already doomed with a terrible name. Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 27/02/2022 12:28:11 2402662 Link 1 |
If counties want to avoid other provincial champions, the best route is to win their province. Provincial winners are to have their first match at home.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7922 - 27/02/2022 12:30:14 2402663 Link 0 |
It is initially but a clear picture is starting to emerge.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7922 - 27/02/2022 12:31:11 2402664 Link 0 |
Are the GAA and Congress incapable of fixing what is wrong with championship structure? Maybe it is politics but how can anyone believe that a rehash of the Tommy Murphy cup is the solution. No disrespect to Meath, Down or Cork but people seem to be more concerned about them being in the Tailteann Cup than they are about the weaker counties progressing the main competition. This is the issue in the GAA, the whole idea is to keep the traditionally strong in situ and relegating the weaker counties to a mickey mouse competition away from the premier competition. Should i expect anything else or anything new at this stage? wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1926 - 27/02/2022 12:32:15 2402666 Link 2 |
Compared to what we have this year. 2023 means the pre season competitions are scrapped with the NFL starting in early January instead. After the provincial championships we'll have four group of 4 to decide who reaches the last 8 of the championship. In summary a format that makes its harder for a underdog (non division 1 team or top two in Div 2 team) to reach the 8 of the championship. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3362 - 27/02/2022 12:47:18 2402668 Link 1 |
The weaker counties continue to vote these things in. After being told by the top counties this is good medicine for them. I had great hopes this new gaa president would change things for the better, alas they are going to get worse.
Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 27/02/2022 12:52:43 2402669 Link 1 |
The fairest carrot that a County could get is open draw, conducted fairly and all above board and if a div 4 team was drawn out with all div 1 teams in their group, so be it. That's the chance of the draw
Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 27/02/2022 13:12:07 2402675 Link 0 |
I'm not mentioning club games, I'm talking about county
Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 27/02/2022 13:12:51 2402676 Link 0 |
If the Tailteann Cup doesn't work out, counties can bring a motion to scrap it. UEFA have the Europa League. The rugby equivalent have a Challenge Cup. I would just ask people to give the Tailteann Cup an opportunity. The important point is that a Division 3 or 4 county who win the Tailteann Cup will qualify for the Super 16 in the following year. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7922 - 27/02/2022 16:24:04 2402736 Link 1 |
I think you are being too cynical. I say this as someone who attends Division 2A hurling and lower tier championship hurling. Wicklow are bottom of Div. 3 at the moment. If they go on a run in the Tailteann Cup next year and win the tournament, they'll be in the Super 16 in the following year. Surely passionate Wicklow supporters will get behind their county in the Tailteann final as they stand 70 minutes away from the Super 16? legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7922 - 27/02/2022 16:28:45 2402741 Link 0 |
They had to find a system, that kept the provincial championships, a system that had fairness and a system that had the potential to increase revenue. In the end meeting those requirements was the only way to get change voted through, so they have did well. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 27/02/2022 20:12:22 2402817 Link 1 |