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Replying To Galway9801: "Well yes, what's best for ladies football is a 50 /50 split in funding, as that would also suit the equality agenda, if Shane Walsh is happy to give up most of his expenses and allowances so the ladies can receive half the money despite not generating even 1/10th of it, and despite frankly not being very good then fine, good for him. Kudos on the attempt at humour though, that was really hilarious." Conspiracy theorist. Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 23/02/2022 17:40:33 2402129 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "Why would women and men need to play out the same fixtures if the 2 associations were to join? You also wouldnt be doubling prices for tickets if there was double headers. May be an increase in price if there was double headers. but would that really be an issue?" Ideally playing the same fixtures would give the women's game as much exposure as the men's game. If you have lets say Meath women playing in Navan on the Saturday and the Men playing in Navan on the Sunday you are not going to get the same number of supporters at each game. Have them play as a double fixture and you can raise the profile of the women's game whilst potentially increasing the revenue for county boards making it less of a financial burden to support men and women football/hurling/camogie. McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 67 - 23/02/2022 18:16:28 2402131 Link
Replying To Rolo2010: "Conspiracy theorist." The idea that women and men are equal in the sporting arena is the most ridiculous conspiracy theory there is, but then again, id expect nothing else from a society where working couples struggle to afford rent while people who've never worked are being given free houses. Welcome to the revolution lol. For the record, would you have a problem with county boards taking money from the mens teams and handing it to to ladies teams in order to create a 50 /50 divide in terms of preparatory funding? Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1756 - 23/02/2022 18:45:18 2402139 Link
After this, I hope the GAA will be addressing the absence of BPOC on teams. (I've excluded the I as the Irish indigenous are not cool, mate.) BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2665 - 23/02/2022 19:47:06 2402145 Link
Replying To Canuck: "For sure its going to happen. How to expand the brand while sharing the resources, money etc. will be interesting. There is a limit to this with the population size of the country. However these ladies have not come from outer space and have been a vital cog in the wheel in the men's game since its inception. Especially at club level. Someone has to mind the kids, feed the chickens and make the sandwiches. Now they want to play more and have a piece of the cake. I don't mean this in a derogative way but they will do more whining inside the halls of power in the GAA than they ever did outside to get a slice. Interesting times ahead and hopefully good for all." Thats a bit sexist and derogative no? Canuck. Women only good for minding kids, making sandwiches? Integration should have happened years ago. IRFU have had major issues with womens game and thats with them integrated into the same association. they used not be within the same organisation and things were far worse. should be easier to expand brand if within same organisation as some resources that could be shared are duplicated with 3 organisations instead of just 1. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3526 - 23/02/2022 20:17:18 2402147 Link
The narrative around all this has been very dangerous this past week and nobody is questioning it such is the fear around this type of topic these days. Painted as the big selfish men and GAA shutting the ladies out, when quite the opposite is the actual case. FrankieJoe (Wicklow) - Posts: 72 - 23/02/2022 21:40:31 2402150 Link
A lot of clubs have already gone for the 'one club' approach over the past few years so the integration of both the Camogie Association and the LGFA into the GAA proper makes sense. You could argue that it should have been done much sooner but I can understand the CA and LGFA's opposition to that to a certain extent. I don't quite understand the feeling in this thread as I can't see this as anything but a good thing. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13725 - 24/02/2022 09:28:39 2402157 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "A lot of clubs have already gone for the 'one club' approach over the past few years so the integration of both the Camogie Association and the LGFA into the GAA proper makes sense. You could argue that it should have been done much sooner but I can understand the CA and LGFA's opposition to that to a certain extent. I don't quite understand the feeling in this thread as I can't see this as anything but a good thing." Agreed. Some people seem to be using this issue to make political points. It's a no brainer from what I can see. The more people involved in Gaelic games the better and camogie and ladies football will benefit from this. There will of course need to be plenty discussion to work out the structures involved, from positions of governance to funding and facilities. The GAA have been very open about their support for this for a number of years. There has been some reluctance from the LGFA and Camogie associations, but it looks like there's a concerted effort now to make this happen. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2066 - 24/02/2022 10:30:45 2402167 Link
Replying To McGo72: "Ideally playing the same fixtures would give the women's game as much exposure as the men's game. If you have lets say Meath women playing in Navan on the Saturday and the Men playing in Navan on the Sunday you are not going to get the same number of supporters at each game. Have them play as a double fixture and you can raise the profile of the women's game whilst potentially increasing the revenue for county boards making it less of a financial burden to support men and women football/hurling/camogie." What if people mostly prefer to watch the men? Which they invariably do. I genuinely like watching the women's game as it is excellent sport at highest level and the stop clock and lack of acting the maggot does away with some of the worse aspects of the men's. However, the fact is that most people do not. Good example was the double header All Ireland semi final last year. Two fanatical football counties, both with a great record at senior women's and there wasn't a quarter of the eventual attendance there for most of the first game as for Dublin/Mayo men's. Indeed, the same applies to hurling in Dublin (and it is reverse in other counties) where you get same proportions for both. I far prefer hurling but I don't see how I should or could force football supporters to watch it if they choose not to. Same with Kerry football people or Cork hurling people or Wexford hurling people or whatever. You can't force people to do things, and least of all in the name of nebulous "equality." BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2665 - 24/02/2022 10:47:15 2402174 Link
I don't see how the GAA will benefit hugely from this? Can anyone provide some examples of where the benefits for the GAA are? I can see loads of benefits for the camogie and ladies football organisations, but not for the GAA. The GAA could be creating a stick to beat itself with. Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 524 - 24/02/2022 11:15:31 2402180 Link
The amalgamation is well over due but the GPA's approach this week has been nauseating. Chasing cheap PR talking about equality when the issue in the past has been the shambolic and half assed organisation by the LGFA and the Camogie Association. It's obvious also from the statements by the likes of Meyler and Hegarty that they've been regurgitating cliches fed to them by the GPA. whoareya (Donegal) - Posts: 77 - 24/02/2022 11:53:41 2402189 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "After this, I hope the GAA will be addressing the absence of BPOC on teams. (I've excluded the I as the Irish indigenous are not cool, mate.)" Pathetic. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 24/02/2022 12:19:35 2402196 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Well yes, what's best for ladies football is a 50 /50 split in funding, as that would also suit the equality agenda, if Shane Walsh is happy to give up most of his expenses and allowances so the ladies can receive half the money despite not generating even 1/10th of it, and despite frankly not being very good then fine, good for him. Kudos on the attempt at humour though, that was really hilarious." Thanks, I need your validation. So is Shane Walsh supporting this out of the goodness of his heart or because he's scared of the big bad agenda? Which is it? Is Shane Walsh also out there giving free houses to people who don't work, seeing as for some reason you're linking this topic with that fiction. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 24/02/2022 12:25:26 2402198 Link
While i have no problem with ladies football and some of it is quite enjoyable like last year's All Ireland final which was a cracker, they are few and far between normally the standard is quite poor but it's much better than the ladies premier league across the water there's so much hype it's unreal all of a sudden there's all these players with 120 caps and nobody ever heard of them and then they get invited on to tv as a pundit to give their opinion on a match involving men when there's no comparison. Good luck to them but they should be giving their opinions on their own game ,how often do you see goals scored in mens game from 40 yards. [email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 24/02/2022 12:37:23 2402199 Link
Replying To JoeSoap: "Thanks, I need your validation. So is Shane Walsh supporting this out of the goodness of his heart or because he's scared of the big bad agenda? Which is it? Is Shane Walsh also out there giving free houses to people who don't work, seeing as for some reason you're linking this topic with that fiction." So now it's fiction that people who don't work are being given free homes? I personally know several families who don't work who have been provided with houses, free of charge, bloody nice houses they are too, and nowhere did I say that Shane Walsh is giving them out either. You're all over the place here. Anyways back to topic........ Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1756 - 24/02/2022 13:05:23 2402206 Link
Poor old Joe Soap obviously gets triggered easily and prefers attacking the man rather than addressing the ball in the discussion. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2665 - 24/02/2022 13:55:16 2402216 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "Thats a bit sexist and derogative no? Canuck. Women only good for minding kids, making sandwiches? Integration should have happened years ago. IRFU have had major issues with womens game and thats with them integrated into the same association. they used not be within the same organisation and things were far worse. should be easier to expand brand if within same organisation as some resources that could be shared are duplicated with 3 organisations instead of just 1." I never said that and clarified not being derogative. With four daughters that is the last thing I am. I enjoy the women's games. Also growing up on a farm I am very much aware of how much of the work load the women in our families did to ensure we could play the game and how much work they did for the local club. I support the amalgamation of the associations. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2673 - 24/02/2022 14:20:04 2402223 Link
Replying To [email protected]: "While i have no problem with ladies football and some of it is quite enjoyable like last year's All Ireland final which was a cracker, they are few and far between normally the standard is quite poor but it's much better than the ladies premier league across the water there's so much hype it's unreal all of a sudden there's all these players with 120 caps and nobody ever heard of them and then they get invited on to tv as a pundit to give their opinion on a match involving men when there's no comparison. Good luck to them but they should be giving their opinions on their own game ,how often do you see goals scored in mens game from 40 yards." Some of them are better pundits than the male pundits. Not afraid to give their opinion and not looking to say great things about former colleagues and talk lrss nonsense. Karen Carney is a very good pundit. N GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7390 - 24/02/2022 21:58:25 2402283 Link
Replying To Canuck: "I never said that and clarified not being derogative. With four daughters that is the last thing I am. I enjoy the women's games. Also growing up on a farm I am very much aware of how much of the work load the women in our families did to ensure we could play the game and how much work they did for the local club. I support the amalgamation of the associations." You can't win Canuck! Even when you are being sensible and describing reality you will be lit upon by some Wokestar. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2665 - 25/02/2022 10:04:16 2402304 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Some of them are better pundits than the male pundits. Not afraid to give their opinion and not looking to say great things about former colleagues and talk lrss nonsense. Karen Carney is a very good pundit. N" Not disputing the fact they are decent pundits,my point is they should stick to talking about their own game and not be in a tv studio commenting on a mens game or worse co commenting on a live match involving either soccer or Gaelic involving men that's my point. [email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 25/02/2022 11:37:34 2402322 Link