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Draw made. Two tough but fairly even groups in Senior and Intermediate. Looking forward to minimum 5 games watching the lads! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12134 - 20/02/2022 10:26:20 2401202 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Draw made. Two tough but fairly even groups in Senior and Intermediate. Looking forward to minimum 5 games watching the lads!" Who wont come out of the groups would you think Viking? countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 643 - 20/02/2022 11:30:04 2401231 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "Who wont come out of the groups would you think Viking?" As you know well yourself alot will depend on how motivated some of the groups are over the winter/spring to put in the hard hours. Especially at Intermediate. Intermediate group A Fethard and Bunclody are certs to make the QF. Tara Rocks might have a bounce in them after coming up from Inter A. Askamore, Adamstown and Gusserane it's hard to choose between the 3 of them. Have a feeling Gusserane will go well. In group B Oulart and the Alley should make the QFs. Blackwater have alot of adult hurlers to pick from. I think Taghmon should go well if we remain injury free and some of the lads ease back on the pints! Although the only thing I know about our new manager is that he played football for Kilanerin and Crossabeg. He is also over our footballers this year. So the 8 from Intermediate are Fethard, HWH, Rocks, Gusserane, Oulart, Alley, Taghmon and Blackwater. But only 4 of those are teams I'd back in the bookies. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12134 - 20/02/2022 13:29:34 2401269 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "Who wont come out of the groups would you think Viking?" In Senior group A I think Gorey and Glynn fairly sure of the QFs other 2 should be Anne's and Harriers but I've a feeling Crossabeg could go well too after their near miss with relegation last year. Group B is tougher. Shels, Martin's and Rapps should make QF as I dont think Martin's will be as bad as they were last year. But there will be little between the other 3. There ll be a bounce in Oylegate. Ferns have a strong panel. Rathnure have some good young players. I'll go Ferns. So Gorey, Glynn, Anne's, Harriers, Shels, Martin's, Rapps and Ferns. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12134 - 20/02/2022 13:40:05 2401274 Link
Who do you think will make the QFs Countyman? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12134 - 21/02/2022 20:43:55 2401736 Link
I think the two senior hurling groups are actually fairly lop-sided, with one being very strong on paper and the other looking weaker. Am not a betting man but had a look at bookie odds just to see if they think the same: Group A Glynn/Barntown 13/2 St. Anne's 7/1 Naomh Eanna 8/1 Faythe Harriers 12/1 Cloughbawn 28/1 Crossabeg/Ballymurn 50/1 Group B Shelmaliers 7/2 Rapparees 4/1 St. Martin's 4/1 Ferns 14/1 Rathnure 16/1 Oylegate/Glenbrien 20/1 So the three favourites are all in Group B, and all six teams in Group B are shorter odds than two of the teams in Group A. I'd say Ferns, Rathnure and Oylegate would all settle for 4th spot there if they were offered it now. If they were in the other group, they'd reckon they'd have a chance of coming in the top three. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 22/02/2022 12:42:37 2401843 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "I think the two senior hurling groups are actually fairly lop-sided, with one being very strong on paper and the other looking weaker. Am not a betting man but had a look at bookie odds just to see if they think the same: Group A Glynn/Barntown 13/2 St. Anne's 7/1 Naomh Eanna 8/1 Faythe Harriers 12/1 Cloughbawn 28/1 Crossabeg/Ballymurn 50/1 Group B Shelmaliers 7/2 Rapparees 4/1 St. Martin's 4/1 Ferns 14/1 Rathnure 16/1 Oylegate/Glenbrien 20/1 So the three favourites are all in Group B, and all six teams in Group B are shorter odds than two of the teams in Group A. I'd say Ferns, Rathnure and Oylegate would all settle for 4th spot there if they were offered it now. If they were in the other group, they'd reckon they'd have a chance of coming in the top three." Think Glynn, Anne's, Gorey and the Harriers would all be a bit ahead of Ferns, Rathnure and Oylegate Pikeman tbh. As reflected in the bookies odds too. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12134 - 22/02/2022 13:51:54 2401875 Link
Maybe it's a case of depends on how you look at it :) Top three teams in Group B all rated significantly more likely to win the championship than even the highest-rated team in Group A. Little to choose between the fourth team in each group. And 5th and 6th in Group B significantly stronger than 5th and 6th in Group A too. Ah well, they're just bookie's odds, and as I said, I'm not a betting man anyway. Also, not that long since one of the big bookie chains was offering odds on Oulart/The Ballagh to win senior this year, which really goes to show that the bookies aren't always right!!! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 22/02/2022 14:09:39 2401884 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Maybe it's a case of depends on how you look at it :) Top three teams in Group B all rated significantly more likely to win the championship than even the highest-rated team in Group A. Little to choose between the fourth team in each group. And 5th and 6th in Group B significantly stronger than 5th and 6th in Group A too. Ah well, they're just bookie's odds, and as I said, I'm not a betting man anyway. Also, not that long since one of the big bookie chains was offering odds on Oulart/The Ballagh to win senior this year, which really goes to show that the bookies aren't always right!!!" Well I guess you have the past three years winners in the same group. Although the Martins were in a regulation battle last year, I don't think anyone believes that they are not a potential winner. You would have to say that perhaps back to the old format it also suits them, stronger overall panel than most so can afford a couple of injuries which others can't. Whatever about one group potentially being stronger than the other, at lest this year teams will be tested so the top four in each should be the ones that deserve to be there. I think lads will be looking forward to this years championship more than any in the past. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1806 - 22/02/2022 14:42:28 2401895 Link
Replying To zinny: "Well I guess you have the past three years winners in the same group. Although the Martins were in a regulation battle last year, I don't think anyone believes that they are not a potential winner. You would have to say that perhaps back to the old format it also suits them, stronger overall panel than most so can afford a couple of injuries which others can't. Whatever about one group potentially being stronger than the other, at lest this year teams will be tested so the top four in each should be the ones that deserve to be there. I think lads will be looking forward to this years championship more than any in the past." I am anyway! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12134 - 22/02/2022 15:13:19 2401907 Link
Do people think Oulart have the players to come straight back up from Intermediate? Fethard have a right few good hurlers and Bunclody won't be far away either. It can be tough to win intermediate in Wexford. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 745 - 25/03/2022 11:35:06 2407001 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "Do people think Oulart have the players to come straight back up from Intermediate? Fethard have a right few good hurlers and Bunclody won't be far away either. It can be tough to win intermediate in Wexford." I'd have Fethard favourites for promotion, Cian Byrne a year older and Eoin Whelan coming in from u17 this year, they lost an awful lot of tight games in senior last year, don't know if its true but someone mentioned here a while ago Aidan Nolan might be going travelling this year, he'd be savage loss to Bunclody in both codes if that was the case. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 25/03/2022 13:05:38 2407022 Link
Obviously "only" the league, and all sorts of other considerations involved too, but anybody spot a certain result from a Div. 2 match (i.e. intermediate teams) last week? Oulart/The Ballagh 8-23, Fethard 0-6. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 25/03/2022 14:00:27 2407034 Link
Replying To wexico15: "I'd have Fethard favourites for promotion, Cian Byrne a year older and Eoin Whelan coming in from u17 this year, they lost an awful lot of tight games in senior last year, don't know if its true but someone mentioned here a while ago Aidan Nolan might be going travelling this year, he'd be savage loss to Bunclody in both codes if that was the case." Hes a good player for sure but seemed to do better at full forward in the hurling game I saw him play last year. He got took for 5 or 6 points at centre half. Bunclody will be up there at hurling with or without him. Im not sure about the football but he wouldnt be their best footballer by any stretch. No 1 man can make a team great or poor all by himself. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12134 - 25/03/2022 14:27:48 2407043 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Obviously "only" the league, and all sorts of other considerations involved too, but anybody spot a certain result from a Div. 2 match (i.e. intermediate teams) last week? Oulart/The Ballagh 8-23, Fethard 0-6." That's a fair beating but it depends what teams were lined out for each club. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 745 - 25/03/2022 14:42:52 2407048 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Hes a good player for sure but seemed to do better at full forward in the hurling game I saw him play last year. He got took for 5 or 6 points at centre half. Bunclody will be up there at hurling with or without him. Im not sure about the football but he wouldnt be their best footballer by any stretch. No 1 man can make a team great or poor all by himself." In my opinion Nolan is their best hurler and 2nd best footballer so that's a savage loss for a rural club if he's heading abroad. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 25/03/2022 14:44:41 2407051 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Obviously "only" the league, and all sorts of other considerations involved too, but anybody spot a certain result from a Div. 2 match (i.e. intermediate teams) last week? Oulart/The Ballagh 8-23, Fethard 0-6." Noticed that too, it was paddy's day so my 1st taught is maybe lads had gone away for a long weekend etc. 1 or 2 could have went Cheltenham for all we know. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 25/03/2022 14:46:41 2407053 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Obviously "only" the league, and all sorts of other considerations involved too, but anybody spot a certain result from a Div. 2 match (i.e. intermediate teams) last week? Oulart/The Ballagh 8-23, Fethard 0-6." Last years league Taghmon played mainly senior teams and beat half of them. We still ended up having to beat Cushinstown to avoid getting relegated to Inter A come Championship. League form is completely irrelevant. Also Fethard were probably missing their senior intercounty footballers and hurlers and likely their intercounty under 20s and minors also. Oulart dont have any senior intercounty footballers or hurlers to be missing sad to say. Hopefully some of their up and coming minors stick at it and Shawn Murphy gets back to full fitness. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12134 - 25/03/2022 15:18:12 2407064 Link
Replying To wexico15: "In my opinion Nolan is their best hurler and 2nd best footballer so that's a savage loss for a rural club if he's heading abroad." Bunclody have a good few good footballers and were a good team all over the pitch at hurling last year. He certainly didnt stand out especially in the game I saw. Obviously hes an intercounty player so hes very good. I just wouldnt say they will be alot worse without him Wexico. That's a bit demeaning to the rest of the lads. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12134 - 25/03/2022 15:21:34 2407068 Link
Replying To wexico15: "Noticed that too, it was paddy's day so my 1st taught is maybe lads had gone away for a long weekend etc. 1 or 2 could have went Cheltenham for all we know." Fethard also got a fairly big beating to Horeswood in the football a week earlier too, so I think they mightn't be putting too much stock into the league yet. I agree that the likes of Eoin Whelan making the step up this year makes them a threat. He is some talent. As for Bunclody, I am fairly sure, or at least I have been told, that they have the same management over both codes this year. And considering Furlong would be from footballing stock (having come to HWH directly from managing Kilanerin last year), maybe their emphasis will be on football this year. Although maybe having one of the more tight-knit squads around, juggling both codes comes easier to them. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1424 - 25/03/2022 16:02:15 2407075 Link