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Replying To legendzxix:  "Dublin definitely should be split in 3. I agreed with the split in 2001 when it was first mooted.
Dublin are like Dracula, as Colm O'Rourke correctly pointed out. They are never gone until the stake is through their heart. Dublin will win Leinster. Home advantage all way then in the All Ireland series. All the advantages."
Speaking of the Prince of Darkness, you've been in your coffin for a while. To what do we owe the pleasure? Bit of Dub bashing to be done I guess. How are things down in the hurling province?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4703 - 27/02/2022 15:07:41    2402702

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Dubs confidence is shot to bits, only started playing when Kildare got the goal and they felt desperation kick in. Dessie's game plan stinks. Still should have won the game with the chances they left behind though, but I might feel a bit nauseous if Farrell comes out with "positives": they only kicked on when they threw his game plan out the window because they were staring down the barrel again.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 27/02/2022 15:42:12    2402709

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We'll be planning a surprise assault on Sam from Div 2 next year :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8603 - 27/02/2022 15:48:51    2402716

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Replying To realdub:  "We'll be planning a surprise assault on Sam from Div 2 next year :D"
Got to love the optimistic outlook!

Personally I reckon it'll bean assault on the Tailteann Cup!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13725 - 27/02/2022 15:58:29    2402721

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Replying To Gavvygavgav:  "Dubs confidence is shot to bits, only started playing when Kildare got the goal and they felt desperation kick in. Dessie's game plan stinks. Still should have won the game with the chances they left behind though, but I might feel a bit nauseous if Farrell comes out with "positives": they only kicked on when they threw his game plan out the window because they were staring down the barrel again."
Dublin not far off. Creating chances but some poor shot selections. Can see a team coming together. A team in transition has to be given time. Now, in the League, is the time for that.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 27/02/2022 16:01:40    2402723

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Replying To realdub:  "We'll be planning a surprise assault on Sam from Div 2 next year :D"
100%. If the laborious possession game continues, I can't see Dublin's forwards getting a sniff out of either Donegal or Tyrone's defences , and Monaghan always give a good account of themselves in Clones.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 27/02/2022 16:04:10    2402725

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Replying To Gaa Fan:  "Dublin not far off. Creating chances but some poor shot selections. Can see a team coming together. A team in transition has to be given time. Now, in the League, is the time for that."
A question for all the Dublin fans; are the supporters willing to spend a year in Division 2 in order to build a new team or would a year in Division 2 impact upon the building of a new team due to the fact that you wouldn't be competing against the best teams in the country? Secondly, will players such as McCarthy, O'Callaghan etc return to the squad/team or is there an issue between the missing players and the current manager? I would have thought that if Dublin wanted to stay in Division 1 then they wouldn't have persisted with the current team selection and brought in some of the stalwarts who are mentioned. It seems now that they are willing to be relegated but persist with the players that are currently being selected.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1926 - 27/02/2022 16:12:47    2402728

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No Con O'Callaghan means no trophies.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8603 - 27/02/2022 16:21:32    2402733

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "A question for all the Dublin fans; are the supporters willing to spend a year in Division 2 in order to build a new team or would a year in Division 2 impact upon the building of a new team due to the fact that you wouldn't be competing against the best teams in the country? Secondly, will players such as McCarthy, O'Callaghan etc return to the squad/team or is there an issue between the missing players and the current manager? I would have thought that if Dublin wanted to stay in Division 1 then they wouldn't have persisted with the current team selection and brought in some of the stalwarts who are mentioned. It seems now that they are willing to be relegated but persist with the players that are currently being selected."
In all honesty, I couldn't care less about less about being relegated, it's the NFL but besides that it's Dublin, we do things our own way, win or loose. I'm I'm being really honest, I'm looking forward to it, sick of playing the same teams and going to the same grounds every year, be great craic down in Div 2. Be some craic when RTÉ start showing live Div 2 games.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4446 - 27/02/2022 17:02:10    2402751

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "A question for all the Dublin fans; are the supporters willing to spend a year in Division 2 in order to build a new team or would a year in Division 2 impact upon the building of a new team due to the fact that you wouldn't be competing against the best teams in the country? Secondly, will players such as McCarthy, O'Callaghan etc return to the squad/team or is there an issue between the missing players and the current manager? I would have thought that if Dublin wanted to stay in Division 1 then they wouldn't have persisted with the current team selection and brought in some of the stalwarts who are mentioned. It seems now that they are willing to be relegated but persist with the players that are currently being selected."
Div 4 or whatever, means nothing to me. I understand you need to be in a competitive division blah blah but I like the bones of this new team.
I think they'll do ok in the future.

And like username said I'll also enjoy playing a few different teams at this time of year and a few new excursions.

Well done to Kildare, they really needed that.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8603 - 27/02/2022 17:35:45    2402763

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Replying To Joxer:  "Speaking of the Prince of Darkness, you've been in your coffin for a while. To what do we owe the pleasure? Bit of Dub bashing to be done I guess. How are things down in the hurling province?"
We'll be hoping to win the McDonagh Cup after 2 finals went the wrong way. Pity to see Kilmoyley lose out in the Intermediate club final.
I've always enjoyed the banter with the Dubs. My split talk is pure. Dublin are the box office team to resurrect the old Railway Cup!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7922 - 27/02/2022 18:07:07    2402772

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The favourites for the All-Ireland listed in order;
1. Dublin
2. Mayo
3. Tyrone
4 Donegal
5. Galway
6. Kerry

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7922 - 27/02/2022 18:09:58    2402774

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The favourites for the All-Ireland listed in order;
1. Dublin
2. Mayo
3. Tyrone
4 Donegal
5. Galway
6. Kerry"
Oh stop, for the love of God just stop,

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1758 - 27/02/2022 18:22:52    2402781

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "A question for all the Dublin fans; are the supporters willing to spend a year in Division 2 in order to build a new team or would a year in Division 2 impact upon the building of a new team due to the fact that you wouldn't be competing against the best teams in the country? Secondly, will players such as McCarthy, O'Callaghan etc return to the squad/team or is there an issue between the missing players and the current manager? I would have thought that if Dublin wanted to stay in Division 1 then they wouldn't have persisted with the current team selection and brought in some of the stalwarts who are mentioned. It seems now that they are willing to be relegated but persist with the players that are currently being selected."
It's nothing to do with being willing to go down to Division 2.

You get what you deserve and right now this team deserves Div 2 football.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13725 - 27/02/2022 18:39:20    2402784

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Yes, but it took no account of the nature of the GAA in Dublin. It is strong in parts of south county, traditionally always strong for football in rural north county and the older working class parish teams are generally holding up.

However, there's vast areas of the city where GAA barely has a presence. One struggling club in north inner city in an area that has a majority non Irish population with zero interest, Same applies to a good bit of big estates on north side.

A split would do huge damage. A south county football and hurling county side would probably hold its own, but the rest would be in big danger if there were separate boards as realistically there would have to be if there was a split at county level."
I agree with you Barney. I'm just stating that the split talk came long before the big success. I agree it would be a bad move.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3688 - 27/02/2022 19:17:20    2402798

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Replying To TheUsername:  "In all honesty, I couldn't care less about less about being relegated, it's the NFL but besides that it's Dublin, we do things our own way, win or loose. I'm I'm being really honest, I'm looking forward to it, sick of playing the same teams and going to the same grounds every year, be great craic down in Div 2. Be some craic when RTÉ start showing live Div 2 games."
Its amazing the speed you reduce the apparent problems to its essentials. Quietly belittling shall we say.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2913 - 27/02/2022 21:40:45    2402846

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Kerry were looking good for the All Ireland after cruising to the league last year. It's February 20th, ball played in awful conditions on soggy pitches. In this compressed season timing the conditioning to peak teams at the right time will be a big factor in deciding the All Ireland. Way too early to pass judgement on an understrength team last night. Dublin squad has plenty of class players, some emerging talent and knowhow of winning when it counts. And way too early thinking we're contenders for anything after beating an understrength Dublin team. July 24th is the day that counts."
Exactly

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 665 - 28/02/2022 09:34:37    2402863

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The favourites for the All-Ireland listed in order;
1. Dublin
2. Mayo
3. Tyrone
4 Donegal
5. Galway
6. Kerry"
LOL !!!

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 665 - 28/02/2022 09:34:56    2402864

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Dublin don't deserve to stay up and that's the stark reality. Of all the Div 1 teams we have been by a distance the least impressive and the table doesn't lie. Do I care about being relegated? Yes. Is it the end of the world? No. It might give the whole squad a kick up the backside on the one hand or it could be a hammer blow to confidence levels. You're talking about a fair few lads involved still who rarely tasted defeat so to go from that to relegation and facing into a season without a whole lot of hope will be a big test psychologically. And that's before taking into account the absolute dross we are having to watch week in week out lately. Talk of transition is all well and good if you are at least seeing the green shoots of something developing game on game in terms of tactics & style of play but we are not being left with many positives at all. Yesterday's defeat was another 70 mins of what we've seen so far in the league and on current form you wouldn't fancy us to take anything from the last 3 games. Absentees are not helping but the damage may well be done by the time we see McCarthy, Con, Costello or Murchan back. And even with them back are we are still going to be hamstrung by the tactics Dessie is sticking with?? Time will tell.

All of the above sounds very negative I know but this has been coming for a long time now. The Mayo defeat last year should have really set the alarm bells ringing but nothing has changed. Somewhere deep down I am hoping we will still pull it together, get the best lads on the field again and get a bit of the old swagger back. Makes for a very interesting few months ahead that's for sure!

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 206 - 28/02/2022 09:51:47    2402868

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Replying To aidan64:  "LOL !!!"
I'd have Kerry in 4th. With nothing much between the top 3 although it's very early to be making predictions really.
1 Tyrone
2 Mayo
3 Dublin
4 Kerry
5 Donegal
6 Galway
Kerry need to beat 1 of the top 3 in a championship game to move up. Something most of this current Kerry team have never done.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12227 - 28/02/2022 10:12:22    2402880

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