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Replying To shocko:  "Was going on information from a Rossie work colleague as information from different countys is always a good source from a betting point of view.
Obviously I got misinformation or else Cork are very poor."
Ye are still 9/4 to beat them at the weekend
They are poor but I don't think they've feared clare to often.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 31/01/2022 14:36:48    2397502

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Ye are still 9/4 to beat them at the weekend
They are poor but I don't think they've feared clare to often."
Cork do appear in a bit of bother with Luke Connolly latest to withdraw be it for whatever reason...Clare might take Cork this weekend from what I heard of both Clare and Cork games on first weekend just gone...look there will be slip ups too along the way..the next 2 rounds will most certainly pave the general way this division is going, and then the the slip ups will be crucial...hard to see how Offaly will do if all they could muster was 7 points yesterday...your free taker on wet day like yesterday should be chipping in with that total including 2 or 3 from play if he is chief score getter...7 points from all team is not good...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1035 - 31/01/2022 14:47:12    2397506

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Ye are still 9/4 to beat them at the weekend
They are poor but I don't think they've feared clare to often."
Recent history in Clare's favour have beaten them in Cork as well lost by a point last yr but Clare did enough to qualify.I don't pay much attention to the bookies pricing Clare think there great value this sat will have no fear of Cork.

shocko (Clare) - Posts: 14 - 31/01/2022 14:58:19    2397508

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Cork do appear in a bit of bother with Luke Connolly latest to withdraw be it for whatever reason...Clare might take Cork this weekend from what I heard of both Clare and Cork games on first weekend just gone...look there will be slip ups too along the way..the next 2 rounds will most certainly pave the general way this division is going, and then the the slip ups will be crucial...hard to see how Offaly will do if all they could muster was 7 points yesterday...your free taker on wet day like yesterday should be chipping in with that total including 2 or 3 from play if he is chief score getter...7 points from all team is not good..."
Ricken dropped Connolly off the panel. not in the shape required to play senior inter County football he reckons.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3359 - 31/01/2022 15:26:04    2397515

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Cork do appear in a bit of bother with Luke Connolly latest to withdraw be it for whatever reason...Clare might take Cork this weekend from what I heard of both Clare and Cork games on first weekend just gone...look there will be slip ups too along the way..the next 2 rounds will most certainly pave the general way this division is going, and then the the slip ups will be crucial...hard to see how Offaly will do if all they could muster was 7 points yesterday...your free taker on wet day like yesterday should be chipping in with that total including 2 or 3 from play if he is chief score getter...7 points from all team is not good..."
No doubt there be slip ups and strange results along the way,was at the match yesterday conditions were brutal would of seen a different match if the weather was better,Connolly gone massive boost for Clare.Best of luck with rest of league Offaly always a likeable county!

shocko (Clare) - Posts: 14 - 31/01/2022 15:26:39    2397516

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Replying To shocko:  "Recent history in Clare's favour have beaten them in Cork as well lost by a point last yr but Clare did enough to qualify.I don't pay much attention to the bookies pricing Clare think there great value this sat will have no fear of Cork."
as an Offaly man who always liked, Wexford, Limerick, Clare, Waterford, Laois and Dublin in hurling, I always liked Clare, Wexford and Limerick in football...just being dual counties I suppose...which is almost impossible now to be really competitive in both, barring Galway whom seem to have too separate panels totally....

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1035 - 31/01/2022 15:50:11    2397524

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "OK it's a weird name to use on a gaa forum is all, anyway best of luck to ye but I hope and believe ye won't win a match mainly because we have previous with the tanned spoofer."
It will be hard for Offaly to stay in the division, Derry will be a difficult game at the weekend, like all of our games. Offaly don't score enough in games, too much reliance on hand passing.
I reckon Derry and Galway will be in the promotion mix. How will Roscommon do in the league/ championship?. Not sure about the 'tanned spoofer'.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 31/01/2022 15:54:18    2397526

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "as an Offaly man who always liked, Wexford, Limerick, Clare, Waterford, Laois and Dublin in hurling, I always liked Clare, Wexford and Limerick in football...just being dual counties I suppose...which is almost impossible now to be really competitive in both, barring Galway whom seem to have too separate panels totally...."
Don't forget the Rossies another dual county with a good Clare man I/c.

shocko (Clare) - Posts: 14 - 31/01/2022 16:20:22    2397544

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Replying To shocko:  "Don't forget the Rossies another dual county with a good Clare man I/c."
ah come on now, Roscommon are a dual county but not in the same sphere as Galway, Dublin and Cork, and I suppose Offaly and Limerick and Clare for example and, there will be no row with the county board in the weeks before provinciail finals over dual players etc..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1035 - 31/01/2022 17:54:01    2397565

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Midtable will be a fine achievement for Clare. Colm Collins deserves great credit for having Clare punching above their weight these last 6 years. Under another manager they would be struggling in Div 3 and nobody would remark about it as its Clare expected level."
I don't think he is punching above his weight or we in Clare are punching above our weight in Division 2. If he was getting us in Division 1, then we would be punching above our weight. But we are the equal or even bit of good as the other teams in Division 2. Before Collins came into Clare as manager the county team was at an all time low, there was good footballers in the county and very good club players and club teams. Kilmurry Ibrickane won two Munsters and got to an All Ireland final and were very unlucky not to beat Dr Crokes a couple, Cratloe under Collins also should have beaten Dr Crokes in a Munster Club final. But the problem during these times was the best club players didn't play with the county, which is in stark contrast to what is there now. Most of the best footballers in Clare are making themselves available to play for the county, which has not always been the case, which in my opinion is the biggest achievement for Colm Collins reign as Clare manager.
Take Clare's forward line Eoin Cleary, Pearse Lillis, David Tubridy, Keelan Sexton amongst other Jamie Malone couldn't even make the team yesterday, these lads all on their day are quality footballers. In defence Cillian Brennan is one of the most rock solid full backs in the country, Ciaran Russell and Cian O'Dea are probably Clare's best players over the last few years rarely have a bad game, yet most people in the country wouldn't have heard much about these two players, but anyone who watches them know what quality players.
It's too easy to throw the narrative that Clare are punching above their weight, when in fact we are more then holding our own and every bit as good as the teams in Division 2. We have actually been very close to promotion in three years in Division 2, under Collins in 2018, we drew two home games that we should have won that would have promoted us. 2020 after the covid return in the autumn we were level with Armagh with five minutes and had we won that game we won have been promoted, also last year we should have held out for a draw against Cork, which would have put us up against Meath instead or Mayo, which would have been a more winnable game to get promoted.

CartaDubh (Clare) - Posts: 51 - 31/01/2022 21:20:47    2397607

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Replying To CartaDubh:  "I don't think he is punching above his weight or we in Clare are punching above our weight in Division 2. If he was getting us in Division 1, then we would be punching above our weight. But we are the equal or even bit of good as the other teams in Division 2. Before Collins came into Clare as manager the county team was at an all time low, there was good footballers in the county and very good club players and club teams. Kilmurry Ibrickane won two Munsters and got to an All Ireland final and were very unlucky not to beat Dr Crokes a couple, Cratloe under Collins also should have beaten Dr Crokes in a Munster Club final. But the problem during these times was the best club players didn't play with the county, which is in stark contrast to what is there now. Most of the best footballers in Clare are making themselves available to play for the county, which has not always been the case, which in my opinion is the biggest achievement for Colm Collins reign as Clare manager.
Take Clare's forward line Eoin Cleary, Pearse Lillis, David Tubridy, Keelan Sexton amongst other Jamie Malone couldn't even make the team yesterday, these lads all on their day are quality footballers. In defence Cillian Brennan is one of the most rock solid full backs in the country, Ciaran Russell and Cian O'Dea are probably Clare's best players over the last few years rarely have a bad game, yet most people in the country wouldn't have heard much about these two players, but anyone who watches them know what quality players.
It's too easy to throw the narrative that Clare are punching above their weight, when in fact we are more then holding our own and every bit as good as the teams in Division 2. We have actually been very close to promotion in three years in Division 2, under Collins in 2018, we drew two home games that we should have won that would have promoted us. 2020 after the covid return in the autumn we were level with Armagh with five minutes and had we won that game we won have been promoted, also last year we should have held out for a draw against Cork, which would have put us up against Meath instead or Mayo, which would have been a more winnable game to get promoted."
You aren't the Clare person to say simliar to me, I have a few work colleagues from Clare. Said it to them that it goes to show how good of a job Collins is doing that even Clare fans have themselves convinced that they aren't punching above their weight.

Making themselves available, Quality footballers that you have mentioned and very close to promotion is all because of Collins and his management getting the very best out of players and getting them to commit to the cause.

There is teams with panels as strong if not stronger than Clares currently languishing in Div 3,4. Success at club football doesn't always translate into county level. Kilcoo are favourites for the All-Ireland while Down will likely be relegated to Div 3, towards the end of Crossmaglen success Armagh struggled, St Galls, St Brigids won All Irelands while their county teams was in Div 3,4. Galway haven't got close to the success and consistency of Corofin.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3359 - 01/02/2022 12:42:23    2397682

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "You aren't the Clare person to say simliar to me, I have a few work colleagues from Clare. Said it to them that it goes to show how good of a job Collins is doing that even Clare fans have themselves convinced that they aren't punching above their weight.

Making themselves available, Quality footballers that you have mentioned and very close to promotion is all because of Collins and his management getting the very best out of players and getting them to commit to the cause.

There is teams with panels as strong if not stronger than Clares currently languishing in Div 3,4. Success at club football doesn't always translate into county level. Kilcoo are favourites for the All-Ireland while Down will likely be relegated to Div 3, towards the end of Crossmaglen success Armagh struggled, St Galls, St Brigids won All Irelands while their county teams was in Div 3,4. Galway haven't got close to the success and consistency of Corofin."
I think one of the biggest issues, was that Clare were getting managers from outside the likes of John Kennedy, Paidi O'Se and Mick O'Dwyer from Kerry, Frank Doherty from Galway. Micheál McDermott from Cavan who lived in Clare, and managed Kilmurry to the All Ireland final was the only one who had any idea about Clare football and the players in Clare, apart from Collins in the 10 years previous to Collins taken the job.
In fairness he is a very good manager in fairness. I actually think that we are starting to build a fairly strong squad, other years I would have agreed with you with regards to other counties in Division 3 or 4 maybe having stronger squads. But some of the players that came off the bench last Sunday, and didn't even come the bench are very good players.
Look I might be a bit too optimistic really about Clare chances in Division 2, but honestly I don't think there is any team Clare should fear in the Division.
Yeah have to agree with you about club teams in a county doing well and the county not doing well, probably often could have been as a result of the club championship ended in March probably hampered these counties.

CartaDubh (Clare) - Posts: 51 - 01/02/2022 18:51:04    2397803

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Round 2 predictions:
Allianz Football League Division 2 round 2
Down v Galway, Pairc Esler, (Sat)5pm - Galway by 7 - Galway 2-12 Down 0-10
Cork v Clare, Pairc Ui Chaoimh, (Sat)7pm - a draw - Cork 1-10 Clare 0-13
Meath v Roscommon, Pairc Tailteann, ( Sun)2pm (Roscommon by 3 - Roscommon 0-14 Meath 0-11
Offaly v Derry, Bord na Mona O'Connor Park (Sun), 2pm - Derry by 8 Derry 0-18 Offaly 0-10 (hope Ime wrong)

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1035 - 02/02/2022 13:00:32    2397932

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Replying To CartaDubh:  "I think one of the biggest issues, was that Clare were getting managers from outside the likes of John Kennedy, Paidi O'Se and Mick O'Dwyer from Kerry, Frank Doherty from Galway. Micheál McDermott from Cavan who lived in Clare, and managed Kilmurry to the All Ireland final was the only one who had any idea about Clare football and the players in Clare, apart from Collins in the 10 years previous to Collins taken the job.
In fairness he is a very good manager in fairness. I actually think that we are starting to build a fairly strong squad, other years I would have agreed with you with regards to other counties in Division 3 or 4 maybe having stronger squads. But some of the players that came off the bench last Sunday, and didn't even come the bench are very good players.
Look I might be a bit too optimistic really about Clare chances in Division 2, but honestly I don't think there is any team Clare should fear in the Division.
Yeah have to agree with you about club teams in a county doing well and the county not doing well, probably often could have been as a result of the club championship ended in March probably hampered these counties."
Whatever the reasons are I'm very happy to see Clare being so competitive in Football. We all know they have great Hurlers. I'd love to see Clare in Div 1.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2142 - 04/02/2022 18:14:20    2398343

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Think Galway and Derry are bankers this weekend should both cover the spreads.The Meath Roscommon game is hard to call I can't see Meath being that bad two weekends in a row Clare always found it hard against Meath in recent years normally a good team think I'll leave this alone in my accumulater.Really fancy Clare to win tomorrow night in Cork could be wrong of course but strong squad and Cork aren't full strength can't ignore the price.

shocko (Clare) - Posts: 14 - 04/02/2022 21:03:47    2398359

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Division 1
Kerry vs Dublin.....Kerry by 4
Armagh vs Tyrone....Draw
Monaghan vs Mayo...Draw
Donegal vs Kildare....Donegal by 3

Division 2
Down vs Galway....Galway by 5
Cork vs Clare....Clare by 1
Meath vs Roscommon...Roscommon by 2
Offaly vs Derry...Derry by 5

Division 3
Antrim vs Limerick....Antrim by 1
Laois vs Westmeath...Laois by 2
Longford vs Louth....Draw
Wicklow vs Fermanagh....Wicklow by 2

Division 4
London vs Waterford....London by 2
Sligo vs Carlow....Sligo by 4
Cavan vs Wexford....Cavan by 6
Tipperary vs Leitrim....Leitrim by 2

Erne12 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 79 - 05/02/2022 14:44:30    2398414

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Replying To shocko:  "Think Galway and Derry are bankers this weekend should both cover the spreads.The Meath Roscommon game is hard to call I can't see Meath being that bad two weekends in a row Clare always found it hard against Meath in recent years normally a good team think I'll leave this alone in my accumulater.Really fancy Clare to win tomorrow night in Cork could be wrong of course but strong squad and Cork aren't full strength can't ignore the price."
Handy for Galway vs. Down (Kilcoo lads a big loss). Good trial outta Cork to peg Clare to a draw, albeit Cork was at home. Cork could escape the drop to Div. 3 yet.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1940 - 05/02/2022 20:51:35    2398486

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Round 2 predictions:
Allianz Football League Division 2 round 2
Down v Galway, Pairc Esler, (Sat)5pm - Galway by 7 - Galway 2-12 Down 0-10
Cork v Clare, Pairc Ui Chaoimh, (Sat)7pm - a draw - Cork 1-10 Clare 0-13
Meath v Roscommon, Pairc Tailteann, ( Sun)2pm (Roscommon by 3 - Roscommon 0-14 Meath 0-11
Offaly v Derry, Bord na Mona O'Connor Park (Sun), 2pm - Derry by 8 Derry 0-18 Offaly 0-10 (hope Ime wrong)"
Good calls

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1149 - 07/02/2022 16:24:44    2399027

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Good calls"
Agree great calls,will keep an eye on your next predictions fairplayalways!

shocko (Clare) - Posts: 14 - 09/02/2022 21:54:38    2399601

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Allianz Football League Division 2 round 3
Derry v Cork, Owenbeg, 1pm - Derry should prevail at home Derry 1-12 Cork 0-10
Galway v Offaly, Pearse Stadium, 2pm - Galway will beat a too conservative Offaly - Galway 3-15 Offaly 0-08 (hope Ime wrong, Offaly need to to start attacking teams as opposed to allowing them come onto them - we have the forwards)
Meath v Down, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm - a draw very possible with both teams not in top form - Meath 2-08 Down 1-11
Roscommon v Clare, Dr Hyde Park, 2pm - Clare going very well, wont fear Roscommon, Roscommon should win, but I am going for Clare here Roscommon 1-13 Clare 2-11

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1035 - 15/02/2022 11:40:22    2400451

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