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Replying To KillingFields:  "This is a superb thread. I hope it keeps going.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 6680 - 30/07/2020 12:51:27
is that your usual hidden pop at me or do you actually believe this site is fine and doesnt need change?

Those are no guarantees of quality in terms of poster or discussion which is most important.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1412 - 30/07/2020 13:05:24
how its designed and allows posts go up certainly guarantees a better quality discussion than here"
Not necessarily. I think generally this site has fairly decent standards apart from the odd fruit.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1429 - 30/07/2020 14:24:23    2285841

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been following this thread the last few days and the majority of people seem pretty content with how things are working currently. I think the fact that the comments are moderated blocks a lot of the nonsense you see on some sites like Journal.ie and the childish back and forth on the comments section. You get a small bit of that on here but you'll still get that if you use a different format.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 1905 - 30/07/2020 14:11:03
the journal isnt a forum though so is different and cant be directly compared to a forum.
the layout is poor and adding of pics etc is so poor. you cant directly post images or anything else. it has to be on a link. not being able to embed pics or videos is very poor.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 971 - 30/07/2020 14:28:30    2285843

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In summary, 2 people don't like the forum (and possibly GAA?). A few people have made small suggestions on improving user behaviour and probably a majority are ok with the current setup. There's nothing else really to be said.

Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 111 - 30/07/2020 14:32:07    2285844

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Replying To KillingFields:  "been following this thread the last few days and the majority of people seem pretty content with how things are working currently. I think the fact that the comments are moderated blocks a lot of the nonsense you see on some sites like Journal.ie and the childish back and forth on the comments section. You get a small bit of that on here but you'll still get that if you use a different format.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 1905 - 30/07/2020 14:11:03
the journal isnt a forum though so is different and cant be directly compared to a forum.
the layout is poor and adding of pics etc is so poor. you cant directly post images or anything else. it has to be on a link. not being able to embed pics or videos is very poor."
** Hoganstand and The Journal are both news sites that you can comment on **

Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 111 - 30/07/2020 15:00:37    2285850

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** Hoganstand and The Journal are both news sites that you can comment on **
Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 109 - 30/07/2020 15:00:37
the journal is a website with comments only available on articles. its not compareable to here where anyone can get up a thread on any topic

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 971 - 30/07/2020 15:20:40    2285854

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Replying To KillingFields:  "** Hoganstand and The Journal are both news sites that you can comment on **
Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 109 - 30/07/2020 15:00:37
the journal is a website with comments only available on articles. its not compareable to here where anyone can get up a thread on any topic"
A discussion forum should be about people sharing their opinions. Disagreeing, usually amicably, finding some common ground. The rest of us have opinions but you portray your opinions like they're facts. They aren't.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5721 - 30/07/2020 16:48:55    2285867

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A discussion forum should be about people sharing their opinions. Disagreeing, usually amicably, finding some common ground. The rest of us have opinions but you portray your opinions like they're facts. They aren't.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5700 - 30/07/2020 16:48:55
i express opinion as fact as much as anyone else does so get off your high horse dismissing me
It is fact that the journal and the42 are not forums and not compareable to this site.
its a fact that this forum is very basic and poor and outdated compared to forums such as boards.ie and gaaboard.com

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 971 - 30/07/2020 17:33:40    2285876

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Replying To KillingFields:  "A discussion forum should be about people sharing their opinions. Disagreeing, usually amicably, finding some common ground. The rest of us have opinions but you portray your opinions like they're facts. They aren't.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5700 - 30/07/2020 16:48:55
i express opinion as fact as much as anyone else does so get off your high horse dismissing me
It is fact that the journal and the42 are not forums and not compareable to this site.
its a fact that this forum is very basic and poor and outdated compared to forums such as boards.ie and gaaboard.com"
Why don't you use those forums instead? You're not being forced to use this. Look at the feedback here - most posters are happy with the functionality. You don't like it, which is fine... but many others do.

Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 111 - 30/07/2020 17:59:54    2285879

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Nothing is ever completely perfect. All in all the site is good. It should be monitored as long as that does not get posts censored based on the opinions of the moderators. It should be to remove derogative language, defamatory content based on innuendo and personal attacks. I know one prominent young player who suffered great mental stress (need intervention) and had to be persuaded to stay in the sport.
Even this simple subject about the site has degrading into nastiness. The biggest improvement would be better behaviour from some posters. Lets not throw out the baby with the bath water.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 796 - 30/07/2020 19:14:07    2285884

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Replying To KillingFields:  "A discussion forum should be about people sharing their opinions. Disagreeing, usually amicably, finding some common ground. The rest of us have opinions but you portray your opinions like they're facts. They aren't.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5700 - 30/07/2020 16:48:55
i express opinion as fact as much as anyone else does so get off your high horse dismissing me
It is fact that the journal and the42 are not forums and not compareable to this site.
its a fact that this forum is very basic and poor and outdated compared to forums such as boards.ie and gaaboard.com"
Completely ignoring the point I made by answering something else and throwing in an insult. You think you're the only poster here that can be offended by insults? I never mentioned Journal or 42 at all. But there's posters there that wouldn't get on Joe Duffy's phone in cos even Joe ikes a better class of whingerm

Here's your quote:

'Allowing more posts of all kinds would be better than the current situation.
Better forum with improvements to allow easier posting of links and to embed pics and videos into posts would greatly enhance the forum.
Sites that allow more posts will also have far more better quality posts as well.'


No' In my opinion, I think' just portraying above comment like it's a fact. You've no idea that they can improve the forum, it's an opinion. Maybe try respecting other people's opinions even if you don't agree with them. That's all. No insult was intended.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5721 - 30/07/2020 19:22:35    2285885

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Why don't you use those forums instead? You're not being forced to use this. Look at the feedback here - most posters are happy with the functionality. You don't like it, which is fine... but many others do.
Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 110 - 30/07/2020 17:59:54
Have you read the thread? I do use other forums.
Im just wondering why do so many people not want to have a forum with more and better features that allow more discussion and better discussion as conversation is instantaneous which isnt the case with this website in its current format.
You can also discuss things and search on the forum to find exactly what you want to discuss. Is that not better?


Nothing is ever completely perfect. All in all the site is good. It should be monitored as long as that does not get posts censored based on the opinions of the moderators. It should be to remove derogative language, defamatory content based on innuendo and personal attacks. I know one prominent young player who suffered great mental stress (need intervention) and had to be persuaded to stay in the sport.
Even this simple subject about the site has degrading into nastiness. The biggest improvement would be better behaviour from some posters. Lets not throw out the baby with the bath water.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 786 - 30/07/2020 19:14:07
By saying all posts should be premoderated are you not admitting that people on this site cant be trusted enough or are not mature enough to be trusted to post in such a manner that the site and others associated with the site wont be taken to court for what is posted on the site


Completely ignoring the point I made by answering something else and throwing in an insult. You think you're the only poster here that can be offended by insults? I never mentioned Journal or 42 at all. But there's posters there that wouldn't get on Joe Duffy's phone in cos even Joe ikes a better class of whingerm
here's your quote:
'Allowing more posts of all kinds would be better than the current situation.
Better forum with improvements to allow easier posting of links and to embed pics and videos into posts would greatly enhance the forum.
Sites that allow more posts will also have far more better quality posts as well.'
No' In my opinion, I think' just portraying above comment like it's a fact. You've no idea that they can improve the forum, it's an opinion. Maybe try respecting other people's opinions even if you don't agree with them. That's all. No insult was intended.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5701 - 30/07/2020 19:22:35
Well compare this forum to virtually every other irish forum. Why is this site a special case/exception. What other irish forums premoderate every post that goes up online?
Are you capable of answering that GreenandRed? It is opinion based on experience on using multiple forums across many different areas of life

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 971 - 30/07/2020 19:56:56    2285888

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Replying To KillingFields:  "A discussion forum should be about people sharing their opinions. Disagreeing, usually amicably, finding some common ground. The rest of us have opinions but you portray your opinions like they're facts. They aren't.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5700 - 30/07/2020 16:48:55
i express opinion as fact as much as anyone else does so get off your high horse dismissing me
It is fact that the journal and the42 are not forums and not compareable to this site.
its a fact that this forum is very basic and poor and outdated compared to forums such as boards.ie and gaaboard.com"
"its a fact that this forum is very basic and poor and outdated compared to forums such as boards.ie and gaaboard.com"

So why are you here nearly every day?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 989 - 30/07/2020 20:07:02    2285889

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Why don't you use those forums instead? You're not being forced to use this. Look at the feedback here - most posters are happy with the functionality. You don't like it, which is fine... but many others do.
Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 110 - 30/07/2020 17:59:54
Have you read the thread? I do use other forums.
Im just wondering why do so many people not want to have a forum with more and better features that allow more discussion and better discussion as conversation is instantaneous which isnt the case with this website in its current format.
You can also discuss things and search on the forum to find exactly what you want to discuss. Is that not better?


Nothing is ever completely perfect. All in all the site is good. It should be monitored as long as that does not get posts censored based on the opinions of the moderators. It should be to remove derogative language, defamatory content based on innuendo and personal attacks. I know one prominent young player who suffered great mental stress (need intervention) and had to be persuaded to stay in the sport.
Even this simple subject about the site has degrading into nastiness. The biggest improvement would be better behaviour from some posters. Lets not throw out the baby with the bath water.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 786 - 30/07/2020 19:14:07
By saying all posts should be premoderated are you not admitting that people on this site cant be trusted enough or are not mature enough to be trusted to post in such a manner that the site and others associated with the site wont be taken to court for what is posted on the site


Completely ignoring the point I made by answering something else and throwing in an insult. You think you're the only poster here that can be offended by insults? I never mentioned Journal or 42 at all. But there's posters there that wouldn't get on Joe Duffy's phone in cos even Joe ikes a better class of whingerm
here's your quote:
'Allowing more posts of all kinds would be better than the current situation.
Better forum with improvements to allow easier posting of links and to embed pics and videos into posts would greatly enhance the forum.
Sites that allow more posts will also have far more better quality posts as well.'
No' In my opinion, I think' just portraying above comment like it's a fact. You've no idea that they can improve the forum, it's an opinion. Maybe try respecting other people's opinions even if you don't agree with them. That's all. No insult was intended.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5701 - 30/07/2020 19:22:35
Well compare this forum to virtually every other irish forum. Why is this site a special case/exception. What other irish forums premoderate every post that goes up online?
Are you capable of answering that GreenandRed? It is opinion based on experience on using multiple forums across many different areas of life"
You're asking the wrong person there Ormond. I suspect it's down to money and Hoganstand don't anticipate much bang for the bucks they'd spend to upgrade the forum with very little activity. A bit more activity is no guarantee in more advertising revenue. Only Hoganstand can answer that question. I'm surprised though that there live score page doesn't have a sponsor or sponsors. I know a few people who use it regularly and say it's as up to the minute with scores as other score apps. I'd rather see ads on here for local businesses than Google ads clickbait but I don't know the business side of why those ads are used.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5721 - 30/07/2020 20:55:57    2285895

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what other forum sites are there about the gaa??
I only use this and i don't always contribute but I do enjoy the craic and the debates?

farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 172 - 30/07/2020 21:03:50    2285896

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So why are you here nearly every day?
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 962 - 30/07/2020 20:07:02
too much time on my hands and there is discussion viewpoints here that are not elsewhere

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 971 - 30/07/2020 21:04:47    2285897

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You're asking the wrong person there Ormond. I suspect it's down to money and Hoganstand don't anticipate much bang for the bucks they'd spend to upgrade the forum with very little activity. A bit more activity is no guarantee in more advertising revenue. Only Hoganstand can answer that question. I'm surprised though that there live score page doesn't have a sponsor or sponsors. I know a few people who use it regularly and say it's as up to the minute with scores as other score apps. I'd rather see ads on here for local businesses than Google ads clickbait but I don't know the business side of why those ads are used.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5702 - 30/07/2020 20:55:57
i use other forums that dont have as many regular users and are far more up to date and changes to both forum and website could/should lead to more traffic which leads to more advertsing revenue.
Google ads can be hugely based on your search history

what other forum sites are there about the gaa??
I only use this and i don't always contribute but I do enjoy the craic and the debates?
farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 166 - 30/07/2020 21:03:50
boards.ie has decent gaa forum, there is gaaboard.com as well as loads of county focused forums that also discuss country wide issues like reservoir dubs, orchardfans

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 971 - 30/07/2020 21:27:48    2285902

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"By saying all posts should be premoderated are you not admitting that people on this site cant be trusted enough or are not mature enough to be trusted to post in such a manner that the site and others associated with the site wont be taken to court for what is posted on the site"

I did not say that all posts be premoderated. Neither am I saying none should be moderated. However there needs to be some trigger that necessitates a review or else character assassinations will be the order of the day and yes there is 'in my opinion' some very immature posters on here. There are also many mature posters that it is a pleasure to dialogue with. 'Again in my opinion.'

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 796 - 30/07/2020 21:39:02    2285903

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You're asking the wrong person there Ormond. I suspect it's down to money and Hoganstand don't anticipate much bang for the bucks they'd spend to upgrade the forum with very little activity. A bit more activity is no guarantee in more advertising revenue. Only Hoganstand can answer that question. I'm surprised though that there live score page doesn't have a sponsor or sponsors. I know a few people who use it regularly and say it's as up to the minute with scores as other score apps. I'd rather see ads on here for local businesses than Google ads clickbait but I don't know the business side of why those ads are used.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5703 - 30/07/2020 20:55:57
google ads is based on your search history is it not?
A lot of other forums can manage it and theyre not connected to a news website like hoganstand is,.
More activity means more clicks and pay per click revenue increases.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 971 - 30/07/2020 21:53:31    2285906

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I did not say that all posts be premoderated. Neither am I saying none should be moderated. However there needs to be some trigger that necessitates a review or else character assassinations will be the order of the day and yes there is 'in my opinion' some very immature posters on here. There are also many mature posters that it is a pleasure to dialogue with. 'Again in my opinion.'

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 787 - 30/07/2020 21:39:02
Look what other forums do then.
There isnt pre moderation. There is a report button that forum members can use to bring posts they feel are offensive/break forum rules or whatever to the attention of the moderators.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 971 - 30/07/2020 22:58:34    2285911

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Also if restructuring the forum put in more forums with a separate forum for different areas ie have a forum for national leagues/championships as well as competition formats/club competitions like what happens on other sites

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 971 - 31/07/2020 17:02:50    2285989

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