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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Sure the gaa is a communist organisation pure and simple, you have 50/60 fellas @ the top getting paid big bucks and thousands and thousands volunteering getting feck all.

Has any of those lads at the top taken pay cuts I wonder."
Well said.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16602 - 17/07/2020 22:37:37    2284361

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Does anyone else believe that many club championships are likely to face serve disruption or cancellation?

Myself and a few lads were just taking this evening at training and reckon the whole thing could be pulled...10 clubs in Derry shut down!!!

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10174 - 18/07/2020 00:32:53    2284378

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Sure the gaa is a communist organisation pure and simple, you have 50/60 fellas @ the top getting paid big bucks and thousands and thousands volunteering getting feck all.

Has any of those lads at the top taken pay cuts I wonder."
The gaa announced pay cuts for all their employees in May.

The employees earning most took 20% pay cuts.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-announces-more-pay-cuts-for-employees-as-covid-19-continues-to-stop-play-1.4242268

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1103 - 18/07/2020 01:41:01    2284380

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Replying To carlovia:  "The gaa announced pay cuts for all their employees in May.

The employees earning most took 20% pay cuts.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-announces-more-pay-cuts-for-employees-as-covid-19-continues-to-stop-play-1.4242268"
Thanks for that carlovia, some interesting wage figures being mentioned there, anything from €24,000 to €38,000 to €76,000 and there is some on a level above that again, how can the gaa justify those kind of wages for some and nothing for thousands and thousands?

I know nobody has a gun to our heads and we don't have to volunteer and it's all about pride of place and we all do it for the love of the game and coz it's what our families have always done but I'm surprised that people arent asking more questions.

All of a sudden I'm getting the urge to listen to the song wake up by rage against the machine.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11005 - 18/07/2020 07:37:11    2284386

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Does anyone else believe that many club championships are likely to face serve disruption or cancellation?

Myself and a few lads were just taking this evening at training and reckon the whole thing could be pulled...10 clubs in Derry shut down!!!"
Yep. One of the clubs in Donegal played a challenge match against one of those Derry teams recently. They've decided to cease activity for a period. Noone in the Donegal club has had any cases, but it just shows how quickly things can be pulled.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6867 - 18/07/2020 09:23:59    2284389

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Thanks for that carlovia, some interesting wage figures being mentioned there, anything from €24,000 to €38,000 to €76,000 and there is some on a level above that again, how can the gaa justify those kind of wages for some and nothing for thousands and thousands?

I know nobody has a gun to our heads and we don't have to volunteer and it's all about pride of place and we all do it for the love of the game and coz it's what our families have always done but I'm surprised that people arent asking more questions.

All of a sudden I'm getting the urge to listen to the song wake up by rage against the machine."
So you think the people in HQ do the same work as the volunteers in clubs? that they could have other jobs and volunteer to do the work that they are doing right now as well? some people need to get a grip on reality but that seems in short supply down your way.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 803 - 18/07/2020 10:27:04    2284392

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Does anyone else believe that many club championships are likely to face serve disruption or cancellation?

Myself and a few lads were just taking this evening at training and reckon the whole thing could be pulled...10 clubs in Derry shut down!!!"
Part of the problem is the perception that everything in the club must stop at the slightest bit of risk. There is no risk assessment going on at all in any of this, there is no way that all the activities in a club need to be stopped as a result of anyone person being confirmed much less with someone in another club. However now that its started if a club doesn't stop everything people will think they are doing something wrong. Seeing through the paranoia is a key aspect to ensuring thing go ahead.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 803 - 18/07/2020 10:41:28    2284395

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Replying To zinny:  "So you think the people in HQ do the same work as the volunteers in clubs? that they could have other jobs and volunteer to do the work that they are doing right now as well? some people need to get a grip on reality but that seems in short supply down your way."
No i dont think the top brass can volunteer their time but I also don't think they should be getting €76,000 or over, not a hope, never.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11005 - 18/07/2020 12:21:44    2284402

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The crowd weren't exactly keeping a distance in Welford last night. Was professor Zinny not there to separate them.?

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2045 - 18/07/2020 13:28:12    2284412

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "No i dont think the top brass can volunteer their time but I also don't think they should be getting €76,000 or over, not a hope, never."
The GAA competes with the corporate world for talent as the GAA is run like any corporation, its naive to think that people will work for any less than what the market will pay just because its the GAA. If the finance director gets 100K is that too much and why when the average in the market is perhaps 100K.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 803 - 18/07/2020 13:31:22    2284413

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "The crowd weren't exactly keeping a distance in Welford last night. Was professor Zinny not there to separate them.?"
Yea it was a bit ridiculous. And players had to tog out in the stands. And all shaking hands after the game. Seems a bit contradictory.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 901 - 18/07/2020 14:02:15    2284418

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Does anyone else believe that many club championships are likely to face serve disruption or cancellation?

Myself and a few lads were just taking this evening at training and reckon the whole thing could be pulled...10 clubs in Derry shut down!!!"
As long as the case numbers remain low and hospitals have very few with Covid 19 (10 nationwide last night) I see no reason why it would get pulled.

Now we will likely get the odd delay here a there but that's something we should all understand as guidelines are followed out. The Derry clubs for example are taking no chances and should be commended for that.

Having the extra 300 at games from Monday wouldn't have made a difference to the overall situation but it is what it is now and strangely have to wait until August 10th for at least 500 at games. By then in Roscommon that would be the the final round of group games so I would expect a big interest in those games and thankfully we have a streaming service up and running.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 2694 - 18/07/2020 15:16:27    2284426

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Replying To Bon:  "Yea it was a bit ridiculous. And players had to tog out in the stands. And all shaking hands after the game. Seems a bit contradictory."
I hear it regularly said in the media that the GAA clubs are doing everything to adhere to the protocols which I am sure is the case in most instances but surely shaking hands after a game breaks the first item on any protocol list. The number of cases will determine what happens on the 10th August, if the numbers are low, then 500 will be permitted to attend matches but shaking hands after a match is pretty stupid in this current climate.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1114 - 18/07/2020 16:44:30    2284435

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Replying To The_analyser:  "As long as the case numbers remain low and hospitals have very few with Covid 19 (10 nationwide last night) I see no reason why it would get pulled.

Now we will likely get the odd delay here a there but that's something we should all understand as guidelines are followed out. The Derry clubs for example are taking no chances and should be commended for that.

Having the extra 300 at games from Monday wouldn't have made a difference to the overall situation but it is what it is now and strangely have to wait until August 10th for at least 500 at games. By then in Roscommon that would be the the final round of group games so I would expect a big interest in those games and thankfully we have a streaming service up and running."
I totally agree and I see some comments on here slamming the president for asking for the limit to be increased to 500 for games where it is possible to social distance. Do they not realise that he is being guided by his own team that includes medical experts. I cannot understand how anyone would condemn him for this. If you take the players and management out of the 200 you are only talking about 100 spectators at the most which is absolutely ridiculous. I believe he was correct to ask as it was safe to do so.

rossno1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 259 - 18/07/2020 17:57:49    2284438

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Replying To rossno1:  "I totally agree and I see some comments on here slamming the president for asking for the limit to be increased to 500 for games where it is possible to social distance. Do they not realise that he is being guided by his own team that includes medical experts. I cannot understand how anyone would condemn him for this. If you take the players and management out of the 200 you are only talking about 100 spectators at the most which is absolutely ridiculous. I believe he was correct to ask as it was safe to do so."
If GAA HQ came out with a cute for covid there's some on here would still try claim it was the wrong thing to do

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 911 - 18/07/2020 18:28:22    2284440

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "I hear it regularly said in the media that the GAA clubs are doing everything to adhere to the protocols which I am sure is the case in most instances but surely shaking hands after a game breaks the first item on any protocol list. The number of cases will determine what happens on the 10th August, if the numbers are low, then 500 will be permitted to attend matches but shaking hands after a match is pretty stupid in this current climate."
I think unfortunately a lot of this is token gestures and talk. Hopefully this won't come back to bite clubs in the ass.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 901 - 18/07/2020 18:47:27    2284441

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "I hear it regularly said in the media that the GAA clubs are doing everything to adhere to the protocols which I am sure is the case in most instances but surely shaking hands after a game breaks the first item on any protocol list. The number of cases will determine what happens on the 10th August, if the numbers are low, then 500 will be permitted to attend matches but shaking hands after a match is pretty stupid in this current climate."
Shaking hands isn't that big of a deal so long as you don't touch your face,mouth directly after it. I Presume players were wearing gloves and will wash their hands. I don't think Ireland will get much lower in cases oby August 10th what then if 500 is allowed?

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2488 - 18/07/2020 21:07:03    2284443

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Shaking hands isn't that big of a deal so long as you don't touch your face,mouth directly after it. I Presume players were wearing gloves and will hands their hands. I don't think Ireland will get much lower in cases oby August 10th what then if 500 is allowed?"
It was hurling so no gloves. As you correctly state, it is what you do next is the is the issue. If you wash your hands or use hand sanitizer then its ok however if not the likelihood is at some stage after that you will touch your face and risk transmission if the person you shook hands with had it. Who knows what they did after they shook hands but its unlikely that they did what was required. I noticed the same with water bottles - while having a water break solves one problem each player would have to use their own individual water bottle - I did see some but was that happening across the board across all teams. You would love to say its each individuals responsibility to do the right thing but habits of a lifetime are hard to break by just issuing guidelines, rules and enforcement is the only way that you break them.
If the GAA wants 500 at their games then perhaps they might well think of the impact that not adhering to the guidelines on national TV will have on decision makers if they had to decide a special exemption for the GAA.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 803 - 19/07/2020 05:20:09    2284464

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Shaking hands isn't that big of a deal so long as you don't touch your face,mouth directly after it. I Presume players were wearing gloves and will wash their hands. I don't think Ireland will get much lower in cases oby August 10th what then if 500 is allowed?"
I think most people are just doing fist bumps now anyway.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 961 - 20/07/2020 12:34:39    2284613

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "No i dont think the top brass can volunteer their time but I also don't think they should be getting €76,000 or over, not a hope, never."
You think we'll get someone capable of managing an organisation as big as the GAA for €75'000 a year? That's the salary of a middle ranking accounting manager at a banking or insurance firm, not CEO of an enormous complex organisation with vast assets, 100's of thousands of members, an income of €10s of Millions a year, multiple sub-units to oversee etc.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1358 - 20/07/2020 14:07:33    2284630

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