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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yeah I was, and am, highly critical of the complete and utter fiasco that the national broadband plan became/is. As usual, the entire process was beset with the usual cronyism, corruption and pettiness. It became a political football, years have been lost and God knows how much it has all cost thus far.

If this virus has taught us anything it's that most people are highly adaptive and receptive to change when a situation dictates it. If we did have a modern, ubiquitous national broadband infrastructure the benefits could transform this country profoundly I think.

- no longer would our young graduates and existing professional people be required to live and work in the bigger cities. Regional tech hubs/WFH options could completely replace that requirement.

- this would alleviate the chronic housing/rent crisis in Dublin

- commuting becomes a thing of the past = less stress on people and the added benefit of less traffic on the road = Ireland's carbon footprint being reduced.

- regional villages/towns which for years have been decimated by unemployment/emigration can be rejuvenated. If more people have the ability to work remotely, settle and bring up families etc, then they'll obviously contribute more to their local economies. Your tradesmen, local shops, pubs and nightclubs etc, the list goes on can all benefit.

The cynic in me thinks that successive governments aren't all that fussed about remedying the housing crisis in Dublin and the likes, given that a lot of them are landlords themselves. But here, we'll not go down that path...."
It's not just governments. Everyone wants to see the housing crisis sorted untill you remind them that building loads of affordable housing will bring down the price of their own house

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 911 - 16/06/2020 15:37:13    2281047

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Replying To Breezy:  "It's not just governments. Everyone wants to see the housing crisis sorted untill you remind them that building loads of affordable housing will bring down the price of their own house"
Fair point!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6867 - 16/06/2020 21:15:49    2281078

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God..this thread is going way off tangent..

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 974 - 17/06/2020 22:36:07    2281163

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I attended the GAA webinar this week but not sure I learned much more. Underage football in particular is confusing, for example you need 2 coaches (or 1 coach and 1 parent) for 8 players. Quite a lot of club teams would have 20+ players on an underage team, if you had 26 players this would mean 8 coaches and a covid19 officer. This feels like it wouldn't be plausible for most clubs.

It is interesting that the Cul camps are back on July 20th. Do the GAA know there will be more relaxed rules by this stage? Or are they hoping for the best?

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1655 - 18/06/2020 11:01:48    2281183

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Replying To Breezy:  "It's not just governments. Everyone wants to see the housing crisis sorted untill you remind them that building loads of affordable housing will bring down the price of their own house"
That's a massive part of it.

People want affordable and social housing but not beside their gaf!

People love the idea of their house being worth x amount but it's just an ego thing really. You have live somewhere so even if you sell your house for mega money you'll have to them buy another house for mega money in anyways.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13012 - 18/06/2020 11:23:03    2281184

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I attended the GAA webinar this week but not sure I learned much more. Underage football in particular is confusing, for example you need 2 coaches (or 1 coach and 1 parent) for 8 players. Quite a lot of club teams would have 20+ players on an underage team, if you had 26 players this would mean 8 coaches and a covid19 officer. This feels like it wouldn't be plausible for most clubs.

It is interesting that the Cul camps are back on July 20th. Do the GAA know there will be more relaxed rules by this stage? Or are they hoping for the best?"
The ratios that they gave for Underage are already what are in the code of conduct and nothing to do with COVID.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 803 - 18/06/2020 11:58:57    2281185

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Replying To zinny:  "The ratios that they gave for Underage are already what are in the code of conduct and nothing to do with COVID."
I actually didn't know that. I always thought that as long as you had two coaches with a group of kids, you were ok. I doubt if there is a single club in the country who have a ratio of 2 coaches per 8 players for kids. The team I am involved in has 3 coaches for around 25 kids and a lot of the time one coach cannot make it, so you end up with 2 for the whole group. It is really tough going for 2 coaches with 20+ kids, even before all these rules and regulations that are coming with covid19. I am not trying to criticize anyone, just the way things are at the moment is going to make a difficult job even harder.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1655 - 18/06/2020 14:30:16    2281199

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I actually didn't know that. I always thought that as long as you had two coaches with a group of kids, you were ok. I doubt if there is a single club in the country who have a ratio of 2 coaches per 8 players for kids. The team I am involved in has 3 coaches for around 25 kids and a lot of the time one coach cannot make it, so you end up with 2 for the whole group. It is really tough going for 2 coaches with 20+ kids, even before all these rules and regulations that are coming with covid19. I am not trying to criticize anyone, just the way things are at the moment is going to make a difficult job even harder."
I agree, I am not sure how many clubs are adhering to the guideline. I understand the intention of the rule although the second coach or parent with the 8 is harder to understand but the reality of it is that sometimes its very difficult to achieve and what then - the kids cannot play? I guess it best practice and clubs should aim to achieve it but reality many won't.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 803 - 18/06/2020 16:59:06    2281211

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It will be interesting to see if any of the proposed changes by the government in accelerating some of the measures in the Phases will change the GAAs previous held views on what should happen. If there is an opportunity that crowds of less than 5,000 would be allowed in September they should allow clubs to play further into September so they can get crowds to their games. Move the finishing of the league to before club championship.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 803 - 19/06/2020 17:38:03    2281296

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The lockdown is over. The GAA should organize to proceed with the finishing of the National leagues in July. They should limit the crowds to a socially distant number. And be careful with crowd control. This is a big moment. And the GAA should grasp it.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1770 - 19/06/2020 22:13:24    2281319

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The lockdown is over. The GAA should organize to proceed with the finishing of the National leagues in July. They should limit the crowds to a socially distant number. And be careful with crowd control. This is a big moment. And the GAA should grasp it.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1770 - 19/06/2020 22:13:24    2281320

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Hopefully the GAA allow contact training from the 29th June and play the first club matches from the 17th of July instead of the 31st after the government announcement today. Would give county boards a big help in deciding club fixtures, that extra bit of breathing room. Would also make it feel a bit more like we are getting a good Summer of football instead of the feeling of starting towards the end of Summer.

Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 514 - 19/06/2020 23:55:47    2281337

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I attended the GAA webinar this week but not sure I learned much more. Underage football in particular is confusing, for example you need 2 coaches (or 1 coach and 1 parent) for 8 players. Quite a lot of club teams would have 20+ players on an underage team, if you had 26 players this would mean 8 coaches and a covid19 officer. This feels like it wouldn't be plausible for most clubs.

It is interesting that the Cul camps are back on July 20th. Do the GAA know there will be more relaxed rules by this stage? Or are they hoping for the best?"
I was at webinar and the reality (on the ground in Dublin) lockdown is dead in the water. These guidelines, rules etc are obsolete.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4330 - 20/06/2020 01:17:47    2281340

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Replying To arock:  "I was at webinar and the reality (on the ground in Dublin) lockdown is dead in the water. These guidelines, rules etc are obsolete."
Agree with you there, nobody is following any rules anymore. Was at the local supermarket yesterday and using the hand sanitiser at the entry, most people were going in without bothering to hand wash. There is no point in the GAA trying to enforce rules that the general population are ignoring.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1655 - 20/06/2020 09:11:22    2281341

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It's a weird mix. Mrs Lion and I went to the supermarket yesterday and there was a well behaved queue - probably more than two metres apart, if anything. Once you're in, it's harder to keep apart - until you get to the checkout and you're back to an orderly queue.

Conclusion - it takes queues to keep us socially distant.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 336 - 20/06/2020 09:56:33    2281343

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Replying To galwayford:  "The lockdown is over. The GAA should organize to proceed with the finishing of the National leagues in July. They should limit the crowds to a socially distant number. And be careful with crowd control. This is a big moment. And the GAA should grasp it."
Certainly waiting to mid October to start the inter county championship seems pointless.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1226 - 20/06/2020 11:03:41    2281349

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the way things are been fast tracked i wouldnt be surprised if the hurling and football allrelands are finished by mid november.....its gas when you think back to mid april and to listen to the experts that were on here saying there would be no hurling or football this year and some were saying none next year either....

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 846 - 20/06/2020 11:28:58    2281350

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "Agree with you there, nobody is following any rules anymore. Was at the local supermarket yesterday and using the hand sanitiser at the entry, most people were going in without bothering to hand wash. There is no point in the GAA trying to enforce rules that the general population are ignoring."
I dont bother with the store handwash as I dont trust every store is using anti viral gel and are instead using antibac which is useless for Covid so unless the staff are watching me I then do it to be polite but otherwise use my own

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 911 - 20/06/2020 11:50:52    2281352

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "the way things are been fast tracked i wouldnt be surprised if the hurling and football allrelands are finished by mid november.....its gas when you think back to mid april and to listen to the experts that were on here saying there would be no hurling or football this year and some were saying none next year either...."
Clearly they weren't experts.!

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1226 - 20/06/2020 16:15:16    2281370

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "the way things are been fast tracked i wouldnt be surprised if the hurling and football allrelands are finished by mid november.....its gas when you think back to mid april and to listen to the experts that were on here saying there would be no hurling or football this year and some were saying none next year either...."
Doom merchants. There an irritating bunch of people.

Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 217 - 20/06/2020 18:02:20    2281382

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