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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To Breezy:  "Down my local supermarket everyone has already gotten too lazy to walk around you rather than cutting right in front of your face to save 2 seconds walking.
And the one that really cracks me up is people taking down the mask to have a chat when they bump into a friend down the shops."
I don't understand why this has not been made compulsory or why shops don't take it on themselves to refuse entry to anyone without one.
Yes the advice on whole fasemask wearing thing was a complete debacle but now everyone globally is in line with the fact that it helps.
Are there posters on here not doing it? Would be interested to know why not?

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 803 - 14/06/2020 17:24:26    2280812

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Replying To Tod:  "Its the same everywhere, and id say about 80% of gaa clubs are back in close contact training utterly reckless for an amateur sport"
Yes my own club are back and id say around 90% of clubs around here are, this is because they have the idea that club championship will be played in August and September, its far from certain that will happen as the public health and government advice would have to state at that time that its ok to ignore social distancing in contact sports that have no testing regime!! It is highly reckless and goes totally against what the GAA used to stand for..

dec (None) - Posts: 237 - 14/06/2020 17:58:59    2280815

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Replying To Tod:  "Rising as in the last few days, but still at a good level"
Better to judge case by the week than by day. Last week we had 249 cases. This week 112 cases, the lowest weekly number of cases since early March.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 2694 - 14/06/2020 20:29:42    2280825

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Replying To dec:  "Yes my own club are back and id say around 90% of clubs around here are, this is because they have the idea that club championship will be played in August and September, its far from certain that will happen as the public health and government advice would have to state at that time that its ok to ignore social distancing in contact sports that have no testing regime!! It is highly reckless and goes totally against what the GAA used to stand for.."
I can see major issues if they scrap social distancing for thousands and thousands of GAA players and keep it enforced everywhere else, businesses etc will not accept that, it will be lifted for all or nothing, still in my opinion a very low chance of club activity this year, inter county will only happen if testing is implemented and behind closed doors

Tod (Kerry) - Posts: 22 - 14/06/2020 21:01:48    2280832

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The League of Ireland having trouble to finance the return of the League with testing players. But the GAA intending to carry on regardless which is reckless.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2045 - 14/06/2020 22:18:53    2280842

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "The League of Ireland having trouble to finance the return of the League with testing players. But the GAA intending to carry on regardless which is reckless."
Absolutely, i mean how are the league of Ireland clubs told to test players in order to resume games while the GAA with thousands more players involved are just told to go ahead without any testing? It is unreal how league of Ireland clubs have accepted this

Tod (Kerry) - Posts: 22 - 14/06/2020 22:53:37    2280846

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "The League of Ireland having trouble to finance the return of the League with testing players. But the GAA intending to carry on regardless which is reckless."
One subject to employee law surely....league of ireland is professional so players are effectively employees....GAA is amateur so I assume players will sign some element of a waiver to play given no one is forcing them to return to play....personal choice.

ArmaghCat (Armagh) - Posts: 22 - 14/06/2020 23:31:26    2280851

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "The League of Ireland having trouble to finance the return of the League with testing players. But the GAA intending to carry on regardless which is reckless."
It really is hard to understand why soccer clubs have to have a strict testing regime in order to return while GAA clubs can return without any testing, maybe due to the CMO being a big GAA man?

dec (None) - Posts: 237 - 14/06/2020 23:32:42    2280852

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "The League of Ireland having trouble to finance the return of the League with testing players. But the GAA intending to carry on regardless which is reckless."
The top four teams in the league of Ireland are currently back preparing for European competitions they are carrying out testing no positive result yet! The rest of the league simply can't afford to pay players and staff without attendances at games all junior and amateur soccer in Ireland are returning in line with the Gaa club teams my local soccer teams league starts again end of August or September they can return to collective training in July and play games from August 10th onwards

theyoungbuck89 (Galway) - Posts: 54 - 15/06/2020 06:39:38    2280858

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Replying To Tod:  "I can see major issues if they scrap social distancing for thousands and thousands of GAA players and keep it enforced everywhere else, businesses etc will not accept that, it will be lifted for all or nothing, still in my opinion a very low chance of club activity this year, inter county will only happen if testing is implemented and behind closed doors"
I highly doubt that the various county boards across Ireland would be arranging their club championships if their was only a low chance of activity. Inter county will happen with at 50% crowds in October i'd reckon providing no 2nd wave in the Autumn.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2488 - 15/06/2020 07:00:02    2280859

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "The League of Ireland having trouble to finance the return of the League with testing players. But the GAA intending to carry on regardless which is reckless."
ye its hard to believe they have to do strict testing while GAA have to do zero testing, it wont be accepted much longer as i read the FAI are to discuss the differences between sporting organisations return to training/play protocols this week, so it will be testing for all or no testing across the board and if it is no testing for any return to contact sports then social distancing will have to be scrapped in all circumstances which in my opinion cannot happen

dec (None) - Posts: 237 - 15/06/2020 10:36:22    2280873

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Replying To catch22:  "The upside of this virus is the possibility it will be the catalyst for change in the way we work. If businesses grasp the nettle and look at making this a more permanent thing then everyone wins.
Companies no longer need to spend the huge sums involved in leasing large premises to accommodate staff. Workers don't need to spend hours commuting and so the roads are quieter for those who must travel. The environment might even benefit in that respect.
In every crisis there is an opportunity to learn and adapt to be better and there is a very real opportunity here to improve the way we do things."
A great point.

Putting our economy and way of living "back to normal" would be highly challenging anyway but stupid in my opinion. Only by radically switching to a less impactful existence - investing in public health and consuming less in a sustainable way, by rapidly reorganizing transportation, how we work, adherence to public health guidelines (facemasks, hand-washing etc), can we prevent widespread and dramatic environmental and economic degradation.

The time for action, for widespread and aggressive adoption of a sustainable new normal is now.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6867 - 15/06/2020 10:38:51    2280874

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "A great point.

Putting our economy and way of living "back to normal" would be highly challenging anyway but stupid in my opinion. Only by radically switching to a less impactful existence - investing in public health and consuming less in a sustainable way, by rapidly reorganizing transportation, how we work, adherence to public health guidelines (facemasks, hand-washing etc), can we prevent widespread and dramatic environmental and economic degradation.

The time for action, for widespread and aggressive adoption of a sustainable new normal is now."
That solution has been staring successive governments in the face for 2 decades now.

The failure to roll out fast, reliable nationwide broadband has held this country back years.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3834 - 15/06/2020 10:53:36    2280877

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Replying To cavanman47:  "That solution has been staring successive governments in the face for 2 decades now.

The failure to roll out fast, reliable nationwide broadband has held this country back years."
Yeah I was, and am, highly critical of the complete and utter fiasco that the national broadband plan became/is. As usual, the entire process was beset with the usual cronyism, corruption and pettiness. It became a political football, years have been lost and God knows how much it has all cost thus far.

If this virus has taught us anything it's that most people are highly adaptive and receptive to change when a situation dictates it. If we did have a modern, ubiquitous national broadband infrastructure the benefits could transform this country profoundly I think.

- no longer would our young graduates and existing professional people be required to live and work in the bigger cities. Regional tech hubs/WFH options could completely replace that requirement.

- this would alleviate the chronic housing/rent crisis in Dublin

- commuting becomes a thing of the past = less stress on people and the added benefit of less traffic on the road = Ireland's carbon footprint being reduced.

- regional villages/towns which for years have been decimated by unemployment/emigration can be rejuvenated. If more people have the ability to work remotely, settle and bring up families etc, then they'll obviously contribute more to their local economies. Your tradesmen, local shops, pubs and nightclubs etc, the list goes on can all benefit.

The cynic in me thinks that successive governments aren't all that fussed about remedying the housing crisis in Dublin and the likes, given that a lot of them are landlords themselves. But here, we'll not go down that path....

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6867 - 15/06/2020 11:29:50    2280885

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Replying To zinny:  "I don't understand why this has not been made compulsory or why shops don't take it on themselves to refuse entry to anyone without one.
Yes the advice on whole fasemask wearing thing was a complete debacle but now everyone globally is in line with the fact that it helps.
Are there posters on here not doing it? Would be interested to know why not?"
I guess some shops are so happy to be getting the ball rolling again that they don't want to refuse anyone after such a dry spell. Maybe they can't afford to kick anyone out.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 961 - 15/06/2020 12:41:04    2280900

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Replying To ArmaghCat:  "One subject to employee law surely....league of ireland is professional so players are effectively employees....GAA is amateur so I assume players will sign some element of a waiver to play given no one is forcing them to return to play....personal choice."
There is only really 3 or 4 who are full time. The rest are semi pro. Though this will hit the League hard in the future with regards any of the Clubs being full time. Maybe Dundalk and Shamrock Rovers with their wealthy owners might manage.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2045 - 15/06/2020 15:36:29    2280919

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "There is only really 3 or 4 who are full time. The rest are semi pro. Though this will hit the League hard in the future with regards any of the Clubs being full time. Maybe Dundalk and Shamrock Rovers with their wealthy owners might manage."
Some lads might chance playing just for the slim chance of going full pro or being noticed by a scout.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 961 - 15/06/2020 22:16:05    2280979

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I guess some shops are so happy to be getting the ball rolling again that they don't want to refuse anyone after such a dry spell. Maybe they can't afford to kick anyone out."
Yea I can understand that with the publics attitude that taking the moral high ground won't pay the bills but my question was more about the people themselves, why when there is so much evidence to suggest that wearing a mask does help prevent the spread do people not wear one. I know you do and I do but there has to be people on this forum that don't when they should even people who complain about the GAA returning to play games as its too dangerous. I would like to hear the reasons why.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 803 - 16/06/2020 02:09:03    2280987

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Replying To zinny:  "Yea I can understand that with the publics attitude that taking the moral high ground won't pay the bills but my question was more about the people themselves, why when there is so much evidence to suggest that wearing a mask does help prevent the spread do people not wear one. I know you do and I do but there has to be people on this forum that don't when they should even people who complain about the GAA returning to play games as its too dangerous. I would like to hear the reasons why."
Zinny I don't wear a mask going to the shop(I do wear a face mask 8 hours a day at work in a factory for the past 8 weeks). I have been doing all the shopping for the family since Paddys day and in general I am fast around a shop, will keep my distance from other customers and when I pass someone will turn my head away from them unless I know them.I do wear gloves clean down my shopping before bringing into house and will leave my shoes outside. If it was mandatory to wear a mask I would but if you use your head and think about what you are doing it will have the same effect as wearing a mask.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 371 - 16/06/2020 15:01:04    2281045

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Replying To zinny:  "Yea I can understand that with the publics attitude that taking the moral high ground won't pay the bills but my question was more about the people themselves, why when there is so much evidence to suggest that wearing a mask does help prevent the spread do people not wear one. I know you do and I do but there has to be people on this forum that don't when they should even people who complain about the GAA returning to play games as its too dangerous. I would like to hear the reasons why."
Yeah I hear you. I'd rather err on the side of caution.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 961 - 16/06/2020 15:32:12    2281046

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