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Leinster Council Open To Accommodating Kerry's Senior Hurlers

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Ah sure its just something else for dublin to beat Kerry at lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 27/02/2020 12:14:03 2270471 Link
Great work going on in Kerry to promote hurling we have to be realistic Kerry are a tier 2 team whats the point playing in Leinster or Munster getting hammered by the big teams what does that do for morale, Right now we may get promoted to div 1b in the league then what happens they lose every game in div 1 and they are back down in div 2 the following year, Kerry hurlers are similar to some of the weaker football teams we have a couple of standout players thats it we will never be able to compete with traditional hurling counties we have one All Ireland and we wont be adding to that anytime soon wfkerry (USA) - Posts: 933 - 27/02/2020 12:47:50 2270476 Link
Replying To wfkerry: "Great work going on in Kerry to promote hurling we have to be realistic Kerry are a tier 2 team whats the point playing in Leinster or Munster getting hammered by the big teams what does that do for morale, Right now we may get promoted to div 1b in the league then what happens they lose every game in div 1 and they are back down in div 2 the following year, Kerry hurlers are similar to some of the weaker football teams we have a couple of standout players thats it we will never be able to compete with traditional hurling counties we have one All Ireland and we wont be adding to that anytime soon" Ok so using that logic. Why not hand Dublin the Sam Maguire and let Kerry and the rest compete in a tier 2 competition. Oh just in case you missed it Laois beat Dublin last year. That's one of your rubbish tier 2 teams beating a 'big team'. Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 27/02/2020 13:13:08 2270482 Link
Replying To Ej: "Ok so using that logic. Why not hand Dublin the Sam Maguire and let Kerry and the rest compete in a tier 2 competition. Oh just in case you missed it Laois beat Dublin last year. That's one of your rubbish tier 2 teams beating a 'big team'." Massive difference between saying hurling has an elite 10 and saying football should have an elite league of 1. You seem to want to paint this as a problem caused by Munsters big 5 and now a Kerry fan says he doesn't see the merit so you have a go at him too Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 27/02/2020 13:59:44 2270491 Link
Its Munster and a rest of Ireland at this Stage and I think Leinster are abit sore about the loss of prestige. The Munster Championship is on a different level. And that's not a slight on Leinster. It's just not Hollywood, the way Munster is. Kerry are better off in Leinster where they'd be at a similar level to more teams. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 27/02/2020 14:56:09 2270505 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "I don't understand why Leinster are going out of their way to help Kerry hurling. Surely this should be done by Munster? https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/leinster-council-open-to-accommodating-kerrys-senior-hurlers-984037.html" They should bring in the senior footballers as well! baire (Galway) - Posts: 1805 - 27/02/2020 15:42:58 2270509 Link
Will they give them home games and a fair cut of the gate??? Not sure what Galways situation is now with regards gate receipts but if they are not getting equal treatment they should walk. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 27/02/2020 16:21:16 2270516 Link
I think overall it's about time we had the debate about the GAA and Hurling. Is hurling better off cutting links with the GAA and forging it's own path..more and more people are asking the question bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 27/02/2020 16:43:26 2270520 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "Its Munster and a rest of Ireland at this Stage and I think Leinster are abit sore about the loss of prestige. The Munster Championship is on a different level. And that's not a slight on Leinster. It's just not Hollywood, the way Munster is. Kerry are better off in Leinster where they'd be at a similar level to more teams." What a knucklehead. Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 27/02/2020 17:01:06 2270522 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "I think overall it's about time we had the debate about the GAA and Hurling. Is hurling better off cutting links with the GAA and forging it's own path..more and more people are asking the question" I've literally never heard a single person ask that question oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 27/02/2020 17:20:42 2270526 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "I think overall it's about time we had the debate about the GAA and Hurling. Is hurling better off cutting links with the GAA and forging it's own path..more and more people are asking the question" Why what good will that do? Look at the mess the ladies are in with two separate organisation total madness and anarchy. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 27/02/2020 17:49:41 2270532 Link
Replying To lilypad: "Ah sure its just something else for dublin to beat Kerry at" To quote the great Buzz Lightyear, you are a sad strange little man, and you have my pity... TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 27/02/2020 18:22:03 2270537 Link
Replying To Breezy: "I don't agree with the difference between relegation rules in the 2 provinces but let's not pretend Kerry are innocent victims here as they try their best to pull ladders up all over the place in Munster football" Right, I hear this utter utter tripe being thrown out there like it's Gospel all the time. So I'm calling you out lad, explain to everyone what the Kerry GAA does to undermine or sabotage or whatever football in the rest of Munster? Come on now I'm all ears, the floor is yours. I'm particularly interested in how a fella, that has stated elsewhere that he has lived in London for years, has such an in depth knowledge of Kerry's secret plans!!! The fact is the other counties in Munster have to look at their own Co. Boards where football is treated, at best a second class citizen, at worst with contempt. The poster in question has no love for Kerry, given that he frequently pops up on the Kerry forum to have a little dig. So I'd be ignoring him, another fella talking through his you know what. Anyway, as a more general point and being from a hurling background in Kerry I'll say this - the big 5 in Munster have always been happy to preserve the status quo and if that's at Kerry hurling expense so be it. The proof? Well just look at how the McDonagh Cup is run - we are the only county that if we win, have to play a promotion or relegation playoff for fear, God forbid, one of the big 5 down South might drop down a tier. Now look, to echo what WestKerry said, at the moment we are hovering around just below the very top of tier two - we could hold our own against Westmeath, Carlow maybe Laois but Dublin, Waterford that's a bridge too far. Yet what happens once we improve, Kerry hurling has made huge strides in the past 12 years. In another decade if we can get to being an outside shot of an upset in the Munster championship will we be allowed in? The experience so far given how the McDonagh Cup has been structured would suggets we won't. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 27/02/2020 18:33:43 2270539 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "I think overall it's about time we had the debate about the GAA and Hurling. Is hurling better off cutting links with the GAA and forging it's own path..more and more people are asking the question" And play in what stadiums and club grounds Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 27/02/2020 18:45:20 2270544 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "Its Munster and a rest of Ireland at this Stage and I think Leinster are abit sore about the loss of prestige. The Munster Championship is on a different level. And that's not a slight on Leinster. It's just not Hollywood, the way Munster is. Kerry are better off in Leinster where they'd be at a similar level to more teams." Prestige? What's that in layman's language? A pressure cooker that Cody blew to bits from 2000-2015! You're geography is off kilter as well, sure Hollywood is in Co. Wicklow! baire (Galway) - Posts: 1805 - 27/02/2020 18:51:50 2270545 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Right, I hear this utter utter tripe being thrown out there like it's Gospel all the time. So I'm calling you out lad, explain to everyone what the Kerry GAA does to undermine or sabotage or whatever football in the rest of Munster? Come on now I'm all ears, the floor is yours. I'm particularly interested in how a fella, that has stated elsewhere that he has lived in London for years, has such an in depth knowledge of Kerry's secret plans!!! The fact is the other counties in Munster have to look at their own Co. Boards where football is treated, at best a second class citizen, at worst with contempt. The poster in question has no love for Kerry, given that he frequently pops up on the Kerry forum to have a little dig. So I'd be ignoring him, another fella talking through his you know what. Anyway, as a more general point and being from a hurling background in Kerry I'll say this - the big 5 in Munster have always been happy to preserve the status quo and if that's at Kerry hurling expense so be it. The proof? Well just look at how the McDonagh Cup is run - we are the only county that if we win, have to play a promotion or relegation playoff for fear, God forbid, one of the big 5 down South might drop down a tier. Now look, to echo what WestKerry said, at the moment we are hovering around just below the very top of tier two - we could hold our own against Westmeath, Carlow maybe Laois but Dublin, Waterford that's a bridge too far. Yet what happens once we improve, Kerry hurling has made huge strides in the past 12 years. In another decade if we can get to being an outside shot of an upset in the Munster championship will we be allowed in? The experience so far given how the McDonagh Cup has been structured would suggets we won't." As I said if I had a vote i would be happy to let Kerry into the Munster championship and yes most hurling led county boards in Munster have a bad history when it comes to supporting it footballers but let's not forget Kerry along with Cork have tried to insure that they have automatic qualification to the Munster semis. Yes I live in London and have done for 8yrs and sorry if that's too long a time to comment on Munster GAA Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 27/02/2020 20:28:21 2270561 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "Its Munster and a rest of Ireland at this Stage and I think Leinster are abit sore about the loss of prestige. The Munster Championship is on a different level. And that's not a slight on Leinster. It's just not Hollywood, the way Munster is. Kerry are better off in Leinster where they'd be at a similar level to more teams." The Munster Championship is on a different level. Well the facts show that level to be below Leinster. The last ten winners of the AI are split evenly, 5 from Munster and 5 from Leinster. The last ten runners-up are split 4 from Munster and 6 from Leinster. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2474 - 27/02/2020 20:42:50 2270564 Link
Replying To Breezy: "As I said if I had a vote i would be happy to let Kerry into the Munster championship and yes most hurling led county boards in Munster have a bad history when it comes to supporting it footballers but let's not forget Kerry along with Cork have tried to insure that they have automatic qualification to the Munster semis. Yes I live in London and have done for 8yrs and sorry if that's too long a time to comment on Munster GAA" There you have it so - not one bit of proof to back up your claims. Maybe you'd be good enough now to retract your statement alleging Kerry are somehow keeping football in the rest of Munster. You can comment on Munster all you like, my point was about how you thought you could speak with authority about the Kerry GAA and it's dastardly plans which, of course, are just figments of your imagination. FYI, it was at the insistence of the other 4 counties in Munster that the finalists in the Munster Championship would be given a bye to the semi finals in the next year. They wanted to keep Kerry and Cork apart, and you can look that up in your own time. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 27/02/2020 21:19:47 2270574 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "There you have it so - not one bit of proof to back up your claims. Maybe you'd be good enough now to retract your statement alleging Kerry are somehow keeping football in the rest of Munster. You can comment on Munster all you like, my point was about how you thought you could speak with authority about the Kerry GAA and it's dastardly plans which, of course, are just figments of your imagination. FYI, it was at the insistence of the other 4 counties in Munster that the finalists in the Munster Championship would be given a bye to the semi finals in the next year. They wanted to keep Kerry and Cork apart, and you can look that up in your own time." Not wishing to get involved in a Munster row but my memory is different. I remember the other 4 counties threatening to boycott the railway cup if the seeding continued. Why would Limerick , Clare and Tipp want Kerry and Cork on opposite sides of the draw. If Kerry and Cork are on the same side this allows the other counties a chance to get to a final. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 27/02/2020 22:21:58 2270580 Link
Replying To carlovia: "Not wishing to get involved in a Munster row but my memory is different. I remember the other 4 counties threatening to boycott the railway cup if the seeding continued. Why would Limerick , Clare and Tipp want Kerry and Cork on opposite sides of the draw. If Kerry and Cork are on the same side this allows the other counties a chance to get to a final." Those counties voted to have bye's for the semi final based on the final pairings the previous year, they felt there should be a reward for a team making the final, esp if it was one of the other 4. It's not about keeping Cork and Kerry apart, they can still be drawn against each other in a semi-final as has happened this year when both will meet in the Munster semi final on 24 June. Again that system was voted in by the other counties as a way of ensuring that a county does not have the prospect of having to play both Kerry and Cork to get to a potential final. It's a very fair system. To be honest I always thought it was stupid that the likes of the Ulster championship did not have some reward for the provincial champions or finalists. It seems daft that Tyrone and Donegal, for example, could contest a final one year and yet be drawn in the preliminary round the next. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 27/02/2020 23:12:31 2270588 Link