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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Congrats Kerry you are a good team. Now the official used his "discretion" 3 or 4 times to stop McDaid coming back on after the 10 mins elapsed. How does discretion apply to the rule when it clearly states the player can return after 10 mins when there is a break in play. I contend that the GAA violated Galway in Tralee. The points should be split as the rule has nothing to do with discretion. The GAA has completely destroyed the game. I watched the Dublin/Mayo game it was rotten. The red card was a joke but that was discretion, like the extra time they play sometimes. They were giving marks before the players even asked for them. The sin bin duration is not a discretion issue. Gaelic Football is losing."
Suck it up paddy.. Same thing happened Kerry last week. A big improvement for ye this year. Look on the bright side..

ExiledForSins (Mayo) - Posts: 15 - 02/02/2020 14:33:53    2264450

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Bring in a good idea and then make a balls of the implementation. Surprised?

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1172 - 02/02/2020 15:14:26    2264459

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Well done to Monaghan. Great to get the 2 points & good to see some fresh bodies in the Monaghan jersey.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 734 - 02/02/2020 15:47:46    2264466

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It'll be some turkey shoot for Kerry and Dublin v Tyrone; Tyrone aren't just going nowhere, they're going backwards. Beating Meath is about their level.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 663 - 02/02/2020 15:53:27    2264468

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Replying To essmac:  "It'll be some turkey shoot for Kerry and Dublin v Tyrone; Tyrone aren't just going nowhere, they're going backwards. Beating Meath is about their level."
And Monaghan played well today. Had the measure of ye for sure. Probably wouldn't read too much into Tyrone's early league form as the past few years have shown.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 734 - 02/02/2020 16:06:17    2264474

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Replying To greysoil:  "Well done to Monaghan. Great to get the 2 points & good to see some fresh bodies in the Monaghan jersey."
Fresh body? One new player.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1834 - 02/02/2020 16:23:22    2264484

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Congratulations to Donegal. Best kickout in the country, Pattton. Murphy is one of the modern greats. Bonner/Rockford managment team, quality management, lots of quality young players, a team to look out for in the coming years and I wouldnt be surprised they are All Ireland champions in 2 to 3 years time. They will be an All Ireland final at least in the next 2 to 3 years. Well done Donegal , better team won.

Meath we are not good enough. Its simple as. I was hoping we could improve on super 8s but its not happening. We are in trouble and Mayo is a must win game, lose that and its pretty much curtains. What we can hope for then is get more players back from injury. Get more div 1 experience and try and get a victory in div 2. If the league is over, its the championship, get players back from injury and aim for super 8s again. Playing the top teams will help. And if we go down, we should be young enough to go up again. Even though div 2 again this year is an unreal competitive division looking at the results in first two weeks. Its never easy getting out of div 2.

Div 1 is a steep learning curve, best teams in the country , all the evidence is pointing to Meath are not good enough. But we just got keep at it. These games v best teams in the country , best players in the country, is invaluable experience for Meath. I suspose the question is will we learn from it. Are will we continue to be a kind of top div 2 team but not good enough for div 1 team. A team.that can reach super 8s but are losing badly at that level. Thats the level it seems we are at the moment. Still there is the championship. All GAA in every county when the championship comes the hope is a bit stronger. But at the moment Meath are getting a tough lesson by the best teams in the country. Thats what sport is at the elite level. Brutally tough. We just gotta keep at. Hopefully over a couple seasons can make headway. But it looks at the moment we are not good enough.
Well done again Donegal. A modern superpower in the game. And great gaa supporters.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 955 - 02/02/2020 16:33:18    2264489

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Congratulations to Donegal. Best kickout in the country, Pattton. Murphy is one of the modern greats. Bonner/Rockford managment team, quality management, lots of quality young players, a team to look out for in the coming years and I wouldnt be surprised they are All Ireland champions in 2 to 3 years time. They will be an All Ireland final at least in the next 2 to 3 years. Well done Donegal , better team won.

Meath we are not good enough. Its simple as. I was hoping we could improve on super 8s but its not happening. We are in trouble and Mayo is a must win game, lose that and its pretty much curtains. What we can hope for then is get more players back from injury. Get more div 1 experience and try and get a victory in div 2. If the league is over, its the championship, get players back from injury and aim for super 8s again. Playing the top teams will help. And if we go down, we should be young enough to go up again. Even though div 2 again this year is an unreal competitive division looking at the results in first two weeks. Its never easy getting out of div 2.

Div 1 is a steep learning curve, best teams in the country , all the evidence is pointing to Meath are not good enough. But we just got keep at it. These games v best teams in the country , best players in the country, is invaluable experience for Meath. I suspose the question is will we learn from it. Are will we continue to be a kind of top div 2 team but not good enough for div 1 team. A team.that can reach super 8s but are losing badly at that level. Thats the level it seems we are at the moment. Still there is the championship. All GAA in every county when the championship comes the hope is a bit stronger. But at the moment Meath are getting a tough lesson by the best teams in the country. Thats what sport is at the elite level. Brutally tough. We just gotta keep at. Hopefully over a couple seasons can make headway. But it looks at the moment we are not good enough.
Well done again Donegal. A modern superpower in the game. And great gaa supporters."
I was at the game and that is an excellent summary of how the afternoons events unfolded.

Donegal were very good and as you rightly say Shaun Patton has the best kick out of the game.

I do fear for Meath this year at this level. They looked a little lost out there today.

Finally thanks to all the Meath fans for the information you all provided regarding places to drink and eat in the town on match day. Hade a couple in Ryan's before the game and I'm now heading down to PJ Clarke's then onto the bar at the hotel I'm staying as there's live music early this evening.

Thanks again

MartinEgan (UK) - Posts: 12 - 02/02/2020 16:46:30    2264496

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Congratulations to Donegal. Best kickout in the country, Pattton. Murphy is one of the modern greats. Bonner/Rockford managment team, quality management, lots of quality young players, a team to look out for in the coming years and I wouldnt be surprised they are All Ireland champions in 2 to 3 years time. They will be an All Ireland final at least in the next 2 to 3 years. Well done Donegal , better team won.

Meath we are not good enough. Its simple as. I was hoping we could improve on super 8s but its not happening. We are in trouble and Mayo is a must win game, lose that and its pretty much curtains. What we can hope for then is get more players back from injury. Get more div 1 experience and try and get a victory in div 2. If the league is over, its the championship, get players back from injury and aim for super 8s again. Playing the top teams will help. And if we go down, we should be young enough to go up again. Even though div 2 again this year is an unreal competitive division looking at the results in first two weeks. Its never easy getting out of div 2.

Div 1 is a steep learning curve, best teams in the country , all the evidence is pointing to Meath are not good enough. But we just got keep at it. These games v best teams in the country , best players in the country, is invaluable experience for Meath. I suspose the question is will we learn from it. Are will we continue to be a kind of top div 2 team but not good enough for div 1 team. A team.that can reach super 8s but are losing badly at that level. Thats the level it seems we are at the moment. Still there is the championship. All GAA in every county when the championship comes the hope is a bit stronger. But at the moment Meath are getting a tough lesson by the best teams in the country. Thats what sport is at the elite level. Brutally tough. We just gotta keep at. Hopefully over a couple seasons can make headway. But it looks at the moment we are not good enough.
Well done again Donegal. A modern superpower in the game. And great gaa supporters."
For all the talk of Meath being a top 8 team and making inroads today confirms what a lot of neutrals already knew. A 10 point defeat in Navan is quite a result for Donegal, no Meath team in the past would have allowed such an embarassing result. Meath are in the top 14 teams but a long way from the top 6. They wouldn't be guaranteed promotion if they were playing Div 2 this year never mind trying to compete in Div 1. My prediction was they'll end pointless and it's hard to see that not happening after today - sad state of affairs for such a great footballing county.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 559 - 02/02/2020 16:48:07    2264497

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Well done our lads. We should stay up now, with big games ahead v tyrone, monaghan and galway. 3 points from 4 is good, despite being a bit disappointed last week. Good to go to Meath and win well.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3744 - 02/02/2020 17:06:52    2264508

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In fairness Meath are in the division on merit. Some Meath fans bemoan the missing players but all counties have some absentees. Whether Meath can survive in the division is questionable but talent wise they are behind the other 7 teams. Meath's biggest issue is quality depth. Monaghan as an example did very well in recent years but possibly did not have the depth either. However they had a strong first 15 something Meath don't enjoy presently.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1659 - 02/02/2020 17:14:08    2264511

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As I feared, it has come to pass. A pasting in Navan was always a possibility, but many felt not against this particular Donegal opposition. A return of 0-7 in Division one, at home game nonetheless, isn't remotely good enough. I reinforce what other posters have said about Meath posters on this site, you need a reality check and today the proof was in the pudding, as I for one, have been quietly pointing out for a few weeks, and I say that not looking for an ego boost, its just the reality. Im a fan and always will turn up for Meath games, but today was very, very disheartening. As I said in posts in the past few weeks, we got promoted in 2019 with a full squad at peak in the spring, and that now seems to be backed up by the lethargy and inefficiency we've seen against every division one side they've faced since. We're now operating off of an injury depleted squad and a team who simply don't have a goalkeeper. Without grating players or management, we're quite simply miles off and must get real. I fear that this league may do serious damage to our panel, and I lament the away games including the game vs. Dublin in Croke Park. We must treat them all as free shots, and the players should be encouraged to express themselves and play as much at they can in every occasion. This must be made into a learning curve if we are to progress in any way in the coming years.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 222 - 02/02/2020 17:27:04    2264518

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Well done to Donegal, they started slowly, but once they got ahead we never troubled them.

Disappointing from our point of view, if he'd have even pushed Donegal then we could have some hope of remaining in Div1 but that was a demoralising performance.

We had no idea what to do with the ball, created very little in front of goal and our defense can't cope with the injuries. We coughed up 7-8 goal chances today and only for some great saves Donegal could have put 5 or 6 goals past us.

Anyway, we have to keep trying, today was a bad day, but we have to hold out some hope for better days ahead.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8318 - 02/02/2020 17:28:00    2264519

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Replying To essmac:  "It'll be some turkey shoot for Kerry and Dublin v Tyrone; Tyrone aren't just going nowhere, they're going backwards. Beating Meath is about their level."
Youd really fear for them against the big boys now. I'm not a huge tyrone fan but my 'dislike' for them recently has arisen out of their potential ability to upset anyone on their day with their style of play!! A back handed compliment of sorts....

End of last year and this year seems different though, they dont have it any more at the very top level. It's now actually quite sad in a way to see their demise and another team drop out of the top table to challenge the dubs. Over to ye kerry to stand up to the dubs for us neutrals.

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 134 - 02/02/2020 17:37:28    2264524

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Replying To Htaem:  "Well done to Donegal, they started slowly, but once they got ahead we never troubled them.

Disappointing from our point of view, if he'd have even pushed Donegal then we could have some hope of remaining in Div1 but that was a demoralising performance.

We had no idea what to do with the ball, created very little in front of goal and our defense can't cope with the injuries. We coughed up 7-8 goal chances today and only for some great saves Donegal could have put 5 or 6 goals past us.

Anyway, we have to keep trying, today was a bad day, but we have to hold out some hope for better days ahead."
Yeah very demoralising performance.
Never really got going, defensively we were a shambles, (long time since I said that ) normally our strongest area, our second string forwards are just that second string, and with the length of the injuries in time wise it may be too late when they come back.
Well done to donegal and best of luck going forward.
We dust ourselves down and we go again with belief.
Hon the roya.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16373 - 02/02/2020 17:48:25    2264528

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Replying To kiloughter:  "In fairness Meath are in the division on merit. Some Meath fans bemoan the missing players but all counties have some absentees. Whether Meath can survive in the division is questionable but talent wise they are behind the other 7 teams. Meath's biggest issue is quality depth. Monaghan as an example did very well in recent years but possibly did not have the depth either. However they had a strong first 15 something Meath don't enjoy presently."
Fair statement and can't argue with it. We do not have the strength to be without so many first team players.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16373 - 02/02/2020 17:49:57    2264530

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Replying To shaggylegend:  "Fresh body? One new player."
I wasn't just referring to today my friend.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 734 - 02/02/2020 18:10:55    2264545

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Yeah very demoralising performance.
Never really got going, defensively we were a shambles, (long time since I said that ) normally our strongest area, our second string forwards are just that second string, and with the length of the injuries in time wise it may be too late when they come back.
Well done to donegal and best of luck going forward.
We dust ourselves down and we go again with belief.
Hon the roya."
The thing that annoyed me the most to be honest was our lack of ideas up front, we had plenty of the ball but didn't have a clue what to do with it.

Also we really don't seem to have any dynamic forwards that can leave their men for dead and riffle home a shot. Everytime we get inside the 40 we seem to turn and play a pass back.

Lots to learn, but hopefully we can pick ourselves up and do better the next day.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8318 - 02/02/2020 18:31:56    2264554

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Replying To ExiledForSins:  "Suck it up paddy.. Same thing happened Kerry last week. A big improvement for ye this year. Look on the bright side.."
yes I agree I am cranky today but my wider concern is that the GAA are imposing rules that are not being implemented correctly and we are essentially becoming a feeder programme for Aussie Rules.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1332 - 02/02/2020 18:59:54    2264579

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The game was realistically over from donegals first goal. That was a strong wind and meath needed to be well enough up at ht. Meath were poor and from my perspective they were far to slow to get the ball up to the forwards in the first half. In fairness to donegal they worked really hard in the and did make it difficult. At the very start donegal should have held on to the ball even more as it was near impossible to score from a distance. As frustrating as it can be to watch the lead up for the first goal was much more how to play into a wind like that. Probe and probe til you you get the right ball for either a close in pont or in this instance a goal. Even if you don't score you are killing the clock and meath can't score when they don't have the ball.
The work rate probably took it out of the legs but I was a bit disappointed in the donegal second half performance. There were some poor efforts for points from players who should know better and a few needless turnovers. That said it was a 10 point win.
The navan pitch was in great shape and hopefully with the fund raising work and the government funding work can soon start on developing a new stand. Bringing the kids on at half time for kick about is a great initiative as well.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 263 - 02/02/2020 19:17:33    2264590

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