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Cathal McShane Going To The AFL?

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "You'd think Kennelly would have known the new rules, that were brought in.
Tyrone have a lot of small inside forwards, McShane gave them a different option.
McCurry, Ronan O Neill shine oi January, in Mckenna Cup, but found wanting later in the year."
Kennelly is a goon and he's very lucky that he was a good athlete and the son of a kerry great.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10367 - 09/01/2020 13:35:35    2258407

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "
Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Sobering article here regarding the level of dropout from inter county panels. 63 so far for the upcoming season which is higher than I would have expected. GAA can do nothing about AFL poaching but I think they need to start looking very carefully at this.

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I wonder is the number so high due to the introduction of the B championship Gerry?"
I would say so, playing in the B championship wont appeal to many footballers, I personally know of a couple of guys who have rejected county call ups for this reason. Many players wont deem this worth it at all

boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 234 - 09/01/2020 13:36:02    2258408

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Replying To five_bogs:  "
Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=GeniusGerry:  "Sobering article here regarding the level of dropout from inter county panels. 63 so far for the upcoming season which is higher than I would have expected. GAA can do nothing about AFL poaching but I think they need to start looking very carefully at this.

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I wonder is the number so high due to the introduction of the B championship Gerry?"
It has a huge influence on it I think. The GAA powers are creating a two tier competition where one wasn't needed. What was needed was a complete restructure of the championship by getting rid of the provincials but they wouldn't dream of it."]100% 5bogs they took the easy option, I wonder in time will we see great players from 2nd tier teams joining teams in tier 1?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10367 - 09/01/2020 13:39:08    2258409

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Replying To boman11:  "
Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=GeniusGerry:  "Sobering article here regarding the level of dropout from inter county panels. 63 so far for the upcoming season which is higher than I would have expected. GAA can do nothing about AFL poaching but I think they need to start looking very carefully at this.

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I wonder is the number so high due to the introduction of the B championship Gerry?"
I would say so, playing in the B championship wont appeal to many footballers, I personally know of a couple of guys who have rejected county call ups for this reason. Many players wont deem this worth it at all"]And you can see why boman. Hopefully after the 3 years is up they'll get rid of it.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10367 - 09/01/2020 16:00:01    2258449

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The words of T Kennelly earlier in the week never came of any comfort to Tyrone fans. As if he would care about our season one way or another.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 210 - 10/01/2020 09:54:36    2258610

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Based purely on T Kennelly and Donaghy / McHale, I reckon AFL degrades the skills of Gaelic footballers if and when they return to Gaelic; whereas basketball seems to help with Gaelic-relevant skills.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 663 - 10/01/2020 11:45:02    2258651

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Replying To essmac:  "Based purely on T Kennelly and Donaghy / McHale, I reckon AFL degrades the skills of Gaelic footballers if and when they return to Gaelic; whereas basketball seems to help with Gaelic-relevant skills."
Kennelly in 2009 brought something different to Kerry tho. It's easy to focus on just the Murphy hit, but his all-round physicality was well ahead of most if not all opponents he faced.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3743 - 10/01/2020 11:56:01    2258660

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "
Replying To boman11:  "[quote=KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=GeniusGerry:  "Sobering article here regarding the level of dropout from inter county panels. 63 so far for the upcoming season which is higher than I would have expected. GAA can do nothing about AFL poaching but I think they need to start looking very carefully at this.

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I wonder is the number so high due to the introduction of the B championship Gerry?"
I would say so, playing in the B championship wont appeal to many footballers, I personally know of a couple of guys who have rejected county call ups for this reason. Many players wont deem this worth it at all"]And you can see why boman. Hopefully after the 3 years is up they'll get rid of it."]The biggest wonder to me is that the majority of players in the "weaker" counties put their lives on hold for 7 to 9 months of the year every year to live like a monk and train hard for what in essence is a lost cause -- no hope of winning medals and an almost certain guaranteed early exit from the championship, front door and back, and sometimes getting a hammering in the process. It amazes me that more dont drop out. At least with a "B" championship they'd have a goal to pursue , an objective to be achieved, and a realistic chance of winning silverware.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1342 - 11/01/2020 00:46:19    2258871

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Replying To essmac:  "Based purely on T Kennelly and Donaghy / McHale, I reckon AFL degrades the skills of Gaelic footballers if and when they return to Gaelic; whereas basketball seems to help with Gaelic-relevant skills."
I think you make a great point here. I noticed at my own club that underage players who play basketball seem to improve at a faster rate. Maybe that is due to the extra fitness they gain from playing basketball but it improves their handling of the ball and ability to make decisions quicker. In general I think its good to have youngsters playing different sports.

On the flipside it does seem to take players returning from AFL a long time to readjust. Tommy Walsh is a great example, taken him a few years to get back to his best. Possibly injury played a part in this for Tommy as well. Possibly a few years playing with the oval ball makes a diffrence.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1605 - 11/01/2020 12:37:54    2258895

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I think you make a great point here. I noticed at my own club that underage players who play basketball seem to improve at a faster rate. Maybe that is due to the extra fitness they gain from playing basketball but it improves their handling of the ball and ability to make decisions quicker. In general I think its good to have youngsters playing different sports.

On the flipside it does seem to take players returning from AFL a long time to readjust. Tommy Walsh is a great example, taken him a few years to get back to his best. Possibly injury played a part in this for Tommy as well. Possibly a few years playing with the oval ball makes a diffrence."
I agree with you about the clear transferable skills of basketball and football, but on your 2nd point I would reference the return of Marty Clarke to Down in 2010 which saw a run to the All Ireland final, with him playing a major role.

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1377 - 11/01/2020 13:25:02    2258904

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Replying To Suas Sios:  "I agree with you about the clear transferable skills of basketball and football, but on your 2nd point I would reference the return of Marty Clarke to Down in 2010 which saw a run to the All Ireland final, with him playing a major role."
Very true about Marty Clarke. I actually saw him play against Donegal the year he returned (2010 perhaps) and he was magnificant, just glided around the pitch and one of the best players I have ever seen. The conclusion here is that I was talking utter tripe lol. Tagh Kennelly another good example.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1605 - 11/01/2020 20:53:41    2258979

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I think people need to cool the jets a wee bit here. Cathal McShane is a superb footballer who is well within his rights to head to Australia and at least see the set up and what's involved. But it isn't cut and dry by any means that he's going to become an AFL player. As Marty Clarke said, these are professional outfits who put a lot of effort into profiling a player. Physically, McShae probably ticks a lot of the boxes but there are so many other aspects that will come into the equation, not least if he's adaptable enough for the oval ball game.

I wish him all the best and hope it goes well or him but if he's playing League football for Tyrone come March it wouldn't unduly surprise me either."
McShane will be playing for Tyrone after all in 2020. Big boost for the Red Hands.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6649 - 05/02/2020 22:59:57    2265553

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "Very true about Marty Clarke. I actually saw him play against Donegal the year he returned (2010 perhaps) and he was magnificant, just glided around the pitch and one of the best players I have ever seen. The conclusion here is that I was talking utter tripe lol. Tagh Kennelly another good example."
McShane won't be going anywhere and will be with Tyrone for the championship if not sooner.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1172 - 06/02/2020 08:09:25    2265580

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Can feel a Wolf of Wall Street moment coming here

http://teamtalkmag.com/2020/02/mcshane-returns-2020/

Big boost to Tyrone and his club

TakeyourPoint. (Tyrone) - Posts: 121 - 06/02/2020 09:24:49    2265589

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Oh no he isn't!! Massive boost to Tyrone.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 427 - 06/02/2020 10:14:21    2265607

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Great news and a huge boost to the county. He has been missed as a focal point of our attack. Sooner we see him on the pitch again the better.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 210 - 06/02/2020 10:15:37    2265608

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changed his mind ??? seriously if you believe that there is no hope for ya

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 203 - 06/02/2020 10:47:36    2265620

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Great news, delighted for Tyrone and the game in general, wished we had played you in the first three rounds of the league now, he tore us new one in the league last year. ;)

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3243 - 06/02/2020 11:20:45    2265632

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Great news I think it will be best for both player and county.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1630 - 06/02/2020 11:35:00    2265636

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Happy for Tyrone and Mickey Harte that Cathal McShane is not going to the AFL.
It will be a big boost to Tyrone.

fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 521 - 06/02/2020 11:47:23    2265641

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