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Times Forgetting About Eire Og

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Malachy Cluckin in the Irish Times has Eire Og written off for the Leinster final going by his match report from today's Ulster final. Read the last line "A first Ulster title for Kilcoo, a third for Moran. They'll give Ballyboden plenty of it on the first weekend of January." Sloppy journalism altogether as Moran actually has four Ulsters now.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 857 - 01/12/2019 18:56:12    2252520

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Heres a link to match report link

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 857 - 01/12/2019 18:58:28    2252522

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Pretty poor form to be fair. You'd have to give Éire Óg every chance.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12845 - 01/12/2019 19:16:54    2252526

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Ah yes a bit brazen all right if not totally dismissive, so much for sporting journalism.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 1991 - 01/12/2019 19:36:47    2252528

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Wouldn't it make you wonder, why do we bother at all.?

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 1991 - 01/12/2019 20:26:45    2252542

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leaving the hand out to be schlapped bigtime

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1048 - 01/12/2019 20:38:07    2252548

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Malachy is one of the best journalists going. Can he not share his personal opinion? Is that not part of his job. Is he not entitled to be open to making mistakes?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 422 - 01/12/2019 21:01:28    2252554

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Remember the name next Monday. Malachy Cluckin.

Hee hee hee

fullbach (Carlow) - Posts: 243 - 01/12/2019 21:14:56    2252560

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Replying To fullbach:  "Remember the name next Monday. Malachy Cluckin.

Hee hee hee"
I think the name is,. Malachy Clerkin.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 1991 - 01/12/2019 21:42:39    2252575

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Malachy is one of the best journalists going. Can he not share his personal opinion? Is that not part of his job. Is he not entitled to be open to making mistakes?"
He is fully entitled to share his opinions but a journalist for a national newspaper needs to be impartial when it comes to match reports. He has completely dismissed Eire Ogs chances and I don't believe this was a mistake. Hope it comes back to bite him now.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 857 - 01/12/2019 21:53:00    2252578

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Malachy is one of the best journalists going. Can he not share his personal opinion? Is that not part of his job. Is he not entitled to be open to making mistakes?"
Not mistakes of that magnitude, proofing it before it goes to print nationally would be normal practice. As for being one of the best journalists going, that's taking the p#ss altogether. Not his first boo boo, he was telling us who should be allowed to have an All Ireland ticket earlier in the year. Always seems to be wheeled out by Croke Park to make some point on whatever agenda is being pushed as well. Fairly typical of the smug arrogance pervading the GAA at present, dismissing the small fry.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 932 - 01/12/2019 22:55:51    2252588

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Replying To gaelicgab:  "He is fully entitled to share his opinions but a journalist for a national newspaper needs to be impartial when it comes to match reports. He has completely dismissed Eire Ogs chances and I don't believe this was a mistake. Hope it comes back to bite him now."
No they dont. If they report facts of the game(who scored, got carded) beyond that they are perfectly entitled to give their opinion
There is no reasonable reason a journalist has to be impartial. They report facts of game and give their opinion beyond that.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 422 - 01/12/2019 23:31:14    2252589

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More Irish times readers in ballyboden than in Carlow probably. playing to his market

Stooker (Leitrim) - Posts: 63 - 02/12/2019 10:06:44    2252615

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Replying To Stooker:  "More Irish times readers in ballyboden than in Carlow probably. playing to his market"
First of all, the thought that this is anything other than an error is laughable.

Secondly, there are more people in Carlow than Ballyboden, so it is extremely likely that there are more Irish Times readers too.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12845 - 02/12/2019 10:16:13    2252622

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Replying To KillingFields:  "No they dont. If they report facts of the game(who scored, got carded) beyond that they are perfectly entitled to give their opinion
There is no reasonable reason a journalist has to be impartial. They report facts of game and give their opinion beyond that."
Fully entitled to give their opinion but not in the way this journalist has done. As I said journalists in national news need to be impartial when it comes to match reports. Otherwise people wont read them or buy newspapers. They dont want to read inaccurate and misleading articles.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 857 - 02/12/2019 12:10:01    2252653

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Replying To gaelicgab:  "Fully entitled to give their opinion but not in the way this journalist has done. As I said journalists in national news need to be impartial when it comes to match reports. Otherwise people wont read them or buy newspapers. They dont want to read inaccurate and misleading articles."
They dont. Some of the very best match reports show some form of bias towards one team or another. There is bias in so many articles in papers it's up to people to see beyond it.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 422 - 02/12/2019 13:15:35    2252677

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Replying To KillingFields:  "They dont. Some of the very best match reports show some form of bias towards one team or another. There is bias in so many articles in papers it's up to people to see beyond it."
Maybe Ireland rugby matches.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 857 - 02/12/2019 13:33:10    2252684

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Malachy is one of the best journalists going. Can he not share his personal opinion? Is that not part of his job. Is he not entitled to be open to making mistakes?"
Not a mistake he's notorious for writing off the underdog and his match predictions tend to be awful.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 276 - 02/12/2019 14:10:50    2252698

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Replying To supersub15:  "Wouldn't it make you wonder, why do we bother at all.?"
You give this journalist some serious respect!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1039 - 02/12/2019 14:13:42    2252703

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Replying To gaelicgab:  "Maybe Ireland rugby matches."
Of course there is. Gavin cummiskey articles are regularly showing bias. Up to readers to make mind up but not a problem for article to be written in this form

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 422 - 02/12/2019 14:37:54    2252715

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