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Should Westmeath V Dublin Be In Mullingar?

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This is true but there is also an element of scaremongering that goes on with Leinster Council trying to frighten the bejaysus out of counties over a decrease in funding if the Dublin "cash cow" is upset and starts producing sour milk. In addition the decision making of Leinster Council makes some wonder why bother, the prime example being Laois forced to play the Dubs in Nowlan Park because O'Moore Park wasn't deemed up to it but the following year O'Moore Park was deemed fine for the Dubs but that was no addition to Laois. We all know this is a competition that badly needs something to give counties something to grasp onto, a home game would be something and I imagine the Westmeath players would be much more up for the thoughts of playing the Dubs if it were in Cusack Park, there is no logical reason why it can't happen, Kildare did show a couple of years back if you dig your heels in in the interest of fairness and equality alone, then you can achieve something, and it is time that all counties in Leinster ignored the talk about money and health and safety and just based their decision on fairness. Ok the comparison with season tickets of soccer teams is probably not totally equal but the core of the argument I think is relevant, the season ticket should be reworked and holders aware that a seat is not always guaranteed depending on seating capacity at a particular venue, this shouldn't be a big issue to sort at all, the Parnell Park ticket holders in Dublin's case really shouldn't be entitled to a seat at all I would think as that scheme is an internal Dublin scheme that shouldn't effect provincial or national fixtures but the issue here is not Dublin it's Leinster Council and has always been Leinster Council and their wonderful ability to make an ailing provincial championship even more redundant with their unfair fixture making
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3475 - 09/10/2019 00:00:10


I agree the conditions of the GAA season ticket should be tweaked.

The scaremongering that goes on from the Leinster Council is done by the Leinster Council which is made of of representatives from the 12 county boards of the Leinster counties!!

The same county boards that then complain when they don't get a home game against Dublin one year but show absolutely no solidarity any other year! It is infuriating!

People like to pretend its some faceless "GAA" or "Croke Park" or "HQ" that make these calls but it is representatives of the individual county boards that make all these decisions.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13003 - 09/10/2019 10:43:26    2242280

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Replying To cuttothebone:  "Oh ignorance is so so bliss..This is the same Kildare who were told you have no choice but to play Dublin game in croker if you want help with your debt for developing a centre of excellence in order to try and compete with the Leinster council backed Dublin gaa.. Something, along with a home venue Dublin never have to contribute towards.."
Dublin have a home venue that they contribute towards.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2280 - 09/10/2019 10:46:28    2242281

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Yes it should
Of course it should

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8156 - 09/10/2019 10:50:58    2242282

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Not surprised by this thread, but surprised no body has mentioned that Leinster quaters genreally played in Neutral venues.

Kildare and Longford was played in Tulamore last year, as was Loais vs West Meath. Meath Vs Carlow was in PL with our game.

I presume all the games will be on neutral turf again this year and so isnt everyone guilty as the same thing as Dublin.

For shame.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3363 - 09/10/2019 10:51:43    2242283

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Kerry: 5/8 championship games in opponents backyard. 1/8 games in Killarney.
Dublin: 7/9 games in Croke Park. 1/9 games in opponents backyard.
Former Dublin players say dogs on the street understand their Croke Park advantage.
Current Dublin players know their wins do not carry the same weight in gold of respect as rural counties. It is what it is."
5 beats 4...I am loving the absolute bitterness from the only football county in a hurling province!! Ye had 3 opportunities in the last 5 years to prevent this Dublin becoming the greatest GAA team and failed. Winter well kid..p.s I here B O'S is making a comeback.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 896 - 09/10/2019 11:16:46    2242287

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Kerry: 5/8 championship games in opponents backyard. 1/8 games in Killarney.
Dublin: 7/9 games in Croke Park. 1/9 games in opponents backyard.
Former Dublin players say dogs on the street understand their Croke Park advantage.
Current Dublin players know their wins do not carry the same weight in gold of respect as rural counties. It is what it is."
You ok, hun? Here for you.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2280 - 09/10/2019 11:32:07    2242295

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "That's fairly corrupt jack, but it's what the GAA want."
Any proof of corruption should be taken to your local Garda station, PRONTO ;) xxx

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2280 - 09/10/2019 11:35:40    2242296

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "5 beats 4...I am loving the absolute bitterness from the only football county in a hurling province!! Ye had 3 opportunities in the last 5 years to prevent this Dublin becoming the greatest GAA team and failed. Winter well kid..p.s I here B O'S is making a comeback."
Exactly Jack, blew their chance in the drawn game when playing against 14 men for over 40 minutes, along with some below par performances from some key Dublin players, now it's tainted or doesn't mean as much or some other pathetic excuses like that. Some people are just bitter aholes and probably are in all walks of life.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2280 - 09/10/2019 11:43:43    2242301

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Of course first name out of the draw should have home advantage unless they use the reverse fixtures rule, like last year Mayo played Roscommon in Castlebar, next time they meet in Connacht championship it will be in Roscommon town, what good is home advantage if its moved to another venue outside of the county, another Newbridge or nowhere, this time around Mullingar or nowhere, in 2012 Mayo played Leitrim at home, next year it has to be in Carrick on Shannon

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 09/10/2019 11:47:01    2242302

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Kerry: 5/8 championship games in opponents backyard. 1/8 games in Killarney.
Dublin: 7/9 games in Croke Park. 1/9 games in opponents backyard.
Former Dublin players say dogs on the street understand their Croke Park advantage.
Current Dublin players know their wins do not carry the same weight in gold of respect as rural counties. It is what it is."
mail hun....

always here for a chat xoxo

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 1844 - 09/10/2019 11:53:27    2242307

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Of course it should be. It won't be, but it should be.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2450 - 09/10/2019 15:48:30    2242385

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Won't make any odds on the outcome where it is.

The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 136 - 09/10/2019 16:02:49    2242388

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A weekend in Mullingar would be welcomed

I'll happily spend out and enjoy my surroundings and the warm WM hospitality. Might even head down early for a days fishing on the River Inny.

Unfortunately I'll be denied this opportunity by cash grabbing Leinster county representatives.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19820 - 09/10/2019 17:07:24    2242399

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Munster footballers went on strike for fixture equity. Leinster footballers should go on strike for venue equity. It's the only way to get county boards to listen. Leinster footballers are inept on and off the park.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 6261 - 10/10/2019 11:10:48    2242524

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Munster footballers went on strike for fixture equity. Leinster footballers should go on strike for venue equity. It's the only way to get county boards to listen. Leinster footballers are inept on and off the park."
Fixture equality in Munster?

Yourselves and Cork get a bye to the semi finals every year!

DundalkGael (Louth) - Posts: 865 - 10/10/2019 13:38:57    2242562

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "No you won't. You'll play any team in Croker most of the time.

The answer is yes. Dublin owe everybody in Leinster a few home games at this stage. It's disgraceful it took this level of dominating before the council would even let Dublin on the road. A hollow gesture. When Dublin weren't guaranteed to win from 2006 to 20013 I didn't once see Dublin on the road. The reality is Leinster council wanted Dublin to win. They even admitted as much."
I agree that it is a disgrace every other provincial competition has a level of home and away matches throughout the championship but not in leinster.

But you have no sympathy from me as the last time I looked the majority of all the county boards in Leinster support the approach that is taken with Dublin.

Meath Wicklow Kildare etc. need to look at themselves as they have helped create this, Dublin are just the lucky ones that have been able to get their house in order and benefit massively

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 165 - 10/10/2019 13:42:22    2242563

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Replying To jimbodub:  "A weekend in Mullingar would be welcomed

I'll happily spend out and enjoy my surroundings and the warm WM hospitality. Might even head down early for a days fishing on the River Inny.

Unfortunately I'll be denied this opportunity by cash grabbing Leinster county representatives."
"cash grabbing Leinster county representatives"

Terrible thing to say about your own country reps...

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 355 - 10/10/2019 14:40:50    2242576

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Not surprised by this thread, but surprised no body has mentioned that Leinster quaters genreally played in Neutral venues.

Kildare and Longford was played in Tulamore last year, as was Loais vs West Meath. Meath Vs Carlow was in PL with our game.

I presume all the games will be on neutral turf again this year and so isnt everyone guilty as the same thing as Dublin.

For shame."
Quarter finals are not always played in neutral venues. For example, Meath played Longford in the quarter final in Pearse Park in 2018.

kingofclubs (Meath) - Posts: 239 - 10/10/2019 16:44:22    2242607

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "No you won't. You'll play any team in Croker most of the time.

The answer is yes. Dublin owe everybody in Leinster a few home games at this stage. It's disgraceful it took this level of dominating before the council would even let Dublin on the road. A hollow gesture. When Dublin weren't guaranteed to win from 2006 to 20013 I didn't once see Dublin on the road. The reality is Leinster council wanted Dublin to win. They even admitted as much."
I suppose the game versus Longford in 2006 wasn't on the tv and was a sell out so I'm not surprised you didn't see it.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 530 - 10/10/2019 17:05:40    2242614

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Yes

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 10/10/2019 18:52:04    2242633

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