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Hearing O Connor Park, just a rumor like.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 07/10/2019 22:03:35 2241943 Link 2 |
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I've never really understood the need to have the draws in October, seven months before the action starts. Of course they mean little nowadays anyway as two of the four provincial championships are a total non-event whilst whoever wins the other two have very little chance of lifting Sam. M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 463 - 07/10/2019 22:51:32 2241949 Link 0 |
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Defeatist talk again hilarious
hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 08/10/2019 06:27:24 2241959 Link 1 |
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Wicklow vs Wexford. sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2897 - 08/10/2019 07:08:59 2241961 Link 0 |
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I think it is a fair reflection of the leinster championship and the championship as a whole that the draws have gone from a televised event to a Monday morning on radio; not that I could ever understand why the draws were televised to start with. The provisional championship are nearing the end of their lifespan and it is only a matter of time before they are consigned to history; to be replaced by a 2 tier championship or a seeded champions league style format based upon league rankings. As was pointed out, two of the 4 provisional championship are non events due to the lack of competition. It is telling that there is nothing much on any of the threads about the leinster championship, in any of the county forums. I think people have become weary of the same old results year in year out and have largely switched off from these competitions. It badly needs some new teams to come to the fore but there isn't much chance of that in leinster in the forseeable future. wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1915 - 08/10/2019 08:02:00 2241967 Link 0 |
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Capacity is 11,000 It would be great to play the Dubs in Mullingar. Packed house, great atmosphere. We are going to be beaten anyway so it would be nice to get something from the Championship. Bringing it to another venue would loose allot of its appeal. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 08/10/2019 09:22:58 2241983 Link 0 |
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I think the excitement dragging these draws out over a number of days has been too much to handle kick_it (Leitrim) - Posts: 15 - 08/10/2019 09:50:21 2241987 Link 0 |
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This is what needs to change, this supposed inability of teams to host Dublin in their own venues, it's utter maddening when you consider Dublin haven't even got a ground of their own that's considered fit for Leinster Championship football
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 08/10/2019 09:54:34 2241988 Link 13 |
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Most likely O'Connor park or Portlaoise. Won't be Mullingar. Only preliminary rounds are on home and away basis.
The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 08/10/2019 09:55:02 2241989 Link 1 |
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This summer we beat Leitrim (H) Mayo (A) Galway (A) to win Connacht. Next summer we'll have to beat London (A) Mayo (H) Galway (H) (sorry Leitrim and Sligo i don't expect you do win your ties) The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3761 - 08/10/2019 09:59:16 2241992 Link 0 |
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I dont disagree to be honest, if the grounds dont cater for demand after season tickets then just let it sell out and leave some without a ticket. My understanding is the Leinster Council have only improved Nowlan Park, Port Laoise and O Connor Park and Croke Park capable of hosting Dublin. So that is a whole of Leinster vote. I think the issue is Dublin is a cash cow for the Leinster Coucil and if they are going to have them play away they are going to make the most the can out of it. I think part of the problem in Leinster is that its overpriced for the entertainment, less so the earlier rounds that i enjoy, but the final is ridiculously priced for the dirge of football entertainment it is. Id have to flip a coin, between the 2011 semi Vs Donegal and Leinster final this year as to which was the worst the game of football i attended, thats not having a pop at anyone. Is what it is, but not worth 50 euro - if my memory on pricing is correct. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/10/2019 10:42:21 2242002 Link 3 |
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It completely unfair. The Leinster and Munster Champions are massively advantaged, the S8's have made it more competitive and equalized things a bit, that the reason id keep them. But Galway, Roscommon, Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal, Armagh, Cavan, Mongahan are playing a tougher championship then Dublin and Kerry and thats not fair. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/10/2019 10:51:07 2242004 Link 5 |
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You are correct with those venues as they have the "seated capacity" supposedly required for season ticket holders. I'm actually in favour of a provincial system but not in its present form, personally I think the football provincials should be ran like the hurling on a round robin group basis (2 groups where necessary in the larger provinces) and run on a strict home and away basis, it would create a bit of a buzz and be good for counties to host more games and some bigger teams and we might see a few more surprises and upsets. When Leinster is the way it is at present the powers that be should be encouraging as many as possible to go to games and boost numbers, pricing is one factor and venues is another, putting Dublin v Westmeath in Tullamore for example does no one any favours and only enhances the "them and us" feeling about the place, furthermore semi finals should be out of Croke Park also as the only game in the Leinster Championsgip that at present can justifiably be played in Croker is the final itself, a small bit of common sense in the short term would give an immediate boost to Leinster and letting Westmeath know that they would have the Dubs in Mullingar would be the type of boost I mean.
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 08/10/2019 13:06:14 2242038 Link 11 |
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Personally i would be in the camp that the provincials need to be scrapped, id accept a two tier super province between Munster and Leinster, if we are the persevere with the provincial model and i like the home and away model, be great to head down to Killarney, PUC, Semple etc. Im open minded about it. As things stand their is zero entertainment or excitement in Leinster, im die hard and couldn't tell you the last time i missed a Dublin game, but the thoughts of sitting through the Leinster championship next year is a real labor of love. I can see and understand why many dont bother. So the thought of adding more games in its current format i wouldn't be for to be honest. The semi is an interesting one, i would be open minded about that as well, could be a great occasion down in Nowlan or somewhere, so personally i would give it a go. i suppose what sticks out for me is in reality is the GAA are very very keen to have as many games in Corke Park as possible, last year was the first time commercial revenue from Croke park was more then revenue from attendances, that is hugely significant and is probably the prime motivation of keeping Dublin in the Croke Park cage. Like so many things in GAA in this day and age fairness Vs revenue Vs the overall well being of the game, in decisions is difficult to give each its due. From a cost point of view, the Leinster Championship is cashing checks the entertainment and spectacle cant carry and i think crowds will continue to go off the cliff, with TV interest at 0 as shown this year. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/10/2019 13:40:07 2242046 Link 7 |
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This is where westmeath need to dig there heals in and demand it's played in mullingar, How many season ticket holders are in dublin does anyone know ?.
Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 666 - 08/10/2019 14:13:35 2242053 Link 0 |
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2004 O'Byrne cup final v Meath had 14000 at it.
The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 08/10/2019 15:19:14 2242073 Link 0 |
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I think they have 2,500 to 3'000 season ticket holders and around 1000 Parnell Park season ticket holders who are also entitled to a ticket. I stand to be corrected on those figures though
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 08/10/2019 15:21:47 2242075 Link 10 |
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there were 14000 at it but they were standing on walls and on the roof of the stands etc. but would definitely fit 12000 safely. why does it matter how many season tickets there are in Dublin? sure im sure Liverpool have 10000 season ticket holders but if they draw someone like Burton or Plymouth in the FA cup they have to make do with their ticket allocation. dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 693 - 08/10/2019 15:29:06 2242080 Link 0 |
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That's true. But I think they cut down the capacity to 11000. Due to health and safety, reading somewhere during summer there is something like 3/4K season tickets in Dublin and about 1k pp. that at most is 5k. (If what I read is correct). So after Westmeath about 500 season tickets there is still half the capacity to go on sale. Westmeath should dig there heels in. In fairness I don't think any dub would care 1 iota about it been played in Mullingar. But what a great event to bring to the town before the fleadh kicks off. Come on gaa. Make this happen
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/10/2019 17:49:03 2242119 Link 0 |
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Leinster Council already bending the knee on this one and chairman Jim Bolger has said that it's more or less decided that O'Connor Park in Tullamore will be the venue and that a 11K capacity at Mullingar doesn't do it for them, what utter tripe from these supposedly educated administrators, once again they put equality, fairness and benefit to the local community to one side using health and safety as a convenient excuse, Westmeath may as well flog Cusack Park off for housing and many other counties may as well follow suit if that's the case, this is just beyond farce here at the minute, a soccer club with tens of thousands of season ticket holders can be drawn away in the FA Cup to a ground with a capacity of maybe 6 or 7K and yet here a county with at most 4000 season ticket holders can't play in an 11K capacity stadium in a provincial competition that is dying on its knees and at least needs a degree of fairness in its fixtures to make up for its lack of competitiveness, at times I really don't understand how these sheep are still in charge of running our games Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 08/10/2019 19:19:05 2242150 Link 12 |