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Joe Brolly Finished With RTE

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Replying To moc.dna:  "I would be really interested in getting a FOI from RTE to see whether the GAA had any contact or request with RTE in relation to this. Joe Brolly is a questioning voice that is needed within the GAA which has become more autocratic over the years. Similarly Colm O Rourke who has asked tough questions & highlighted certain issues within both the GAA & GPA & being castigated for same. We need these voices heard as it has now reached all levels within the GAA that if you put your head above the parapet to question the group think, you are a radical. Many of the issues Joe & Colm raise are very valid & serious. Major financial irregularities last year in Galway which were sent to Croke Park, yet the details were never publicly published or whether anyone was prosecuted or punished in any way. Everybody is afraid to ask the hard questions. Are Joe & Colm infallible, no. Do they make cock ups in analysis, yes. Interesting that RTE drop Joe but leave Ciaran Whelan & Pat Spillane.
RTE & the GAA will soon have all the Yes people they need as panelists all following the script."
If you're correct this won't end well for RTE or the GAA. Newspapers are under increased pressure with social media and will do what they can to sell newspapers. They would promote a questioning, controversial voice and would market this type of columnist as the week's must read. Brolly is the kind of character who would love this type of freedom to air his real views and the newspaper would reward and support him for expressing them.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 486 - 11/09/2019 12:58:34    2234390

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A lot of media attention on Sunday game shows this year, between hurling and football. The common denominator is the presenters I think, Cantwell and Cahill are just not right fits for the show. Time to bring in dara o'cinneide to do both shows. Live and highlights.

Thelonesomegoose (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 11/09/2019 13:08:47    2234394

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Brolly was hard to listen to but he was consistent in his disgust at the way gaelic football had developed into a form of rugby/basketball.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 71 - 11/09/2019 13:20:19    2234397

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Harsh on Whelan for me he's one of the best panelists Rte have ok he got it badly wrong the last day but other than that he's very good imo."
Good panellist but shouldn't do Dublin games......admitted he is bias so that should rule him out. Unfortunate because I like him but a few times bias has shone though.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1699 - 11/09/2019 13:40:26    2234406

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He became the Dunphy of GAA. Entertaining if you like that kind of thing but he ran his race, freshening things up will help a very tired format.

Do you ever notice how he shouts out a controversial statement then the next day has to make a grovelling apology?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1699 - 11/09/2019 13:43:50    2234409

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Good panellist but shouldn't do Dublin games......admitted he is bias so that should rule him out. Unfortunate because I like him but a few times bias has shone though."
Do you think any of the panelists or commentators aren't biased. You can hear the bias in most of them in their commentary. Dolan is the worst and Spillane has had to try to hide his aswell but doesn't always manage it.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2070 - 11/09/2019 13:58:02    2234412

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Do you think any of the panelists or commentators aren't biased. You can hear the bias in most of them in their commentary. Dolan is the worst and Spillane has had to try to hide his aswell but doesn't always manage it."
Carney from Donegal/Mayo still gets the Rte gig when we've all heard his commentary from the end of the '17 final on a Mayo radio station. We all have no problem with that. Whelan is a very good panelist.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 11/09/2019 14:10:48    2234416

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Replying To seanie08:  "Proper order. The resident Dublin cheerleader has been removed from RTE."
He was anti -Dublin before they started winning.
All the pantomime stuff was getting too much anyway.
He would not let other panelists speak got very frustrated if he was not the centre of attention

Not the first time he got himself into trouble - mouthing the f word when he was annoyed with Pat Spillane on air,

https://twitter.com/i/status/894574480714059776

Saying "Somebody said it's as ugly as Marty Morrissey, their football... maybe I should apologise to the people of Cavan,"

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/rt%C3%A9-warn-brolly-inappropriate-remarks-won-t-be-tolerated-1.2227863

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 984 - 11/09/2019 14:18:07    2234420

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Carney from Donegal/Mayo still gets the Rte gig when we've all heard his commentary from the end of the '17 final on a Mayo radio station. We all have no problem with that. Whelan is a very good panelist."
Whelan is one of the worst, just last week he stated at halftime "I'll be biased towards Dublin and Pat will be towards Kerry," to which Pat replied "no I won't".
Pat said it wasn't a penalty.
The point being Whelan is not supposed to say live on air he is going to be biased, we don't want biased coverage, we want good balanced analysis...its the All Ireland, for the people of this Island not just the 'Dubs'

PointRoad (Louth) - Posts: 80 - 11/09/2019 14:21:52    2234423

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I hope is back soon, very hard on my own County, but top of the pops at his job.

giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 953 - 11/09/2019 14:25:20    2234426

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Replying To PointRoad:  "Whelan is one of the worst, just last week he stated at halftime "I'll be biased towards Dublin and Pat will be towards Kerry," to which Pat replied "no I won't".
Pat said it wasn't a penalty.
The point being Whelan is not supposed to say live on air he is going to be biased, we don't want biased coverage, we want good balanced analysis...its the All Ireland, for the people of this Island not just the 'Dubs'"
How will we go on? The drama of it all.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 11/09/2019 14:26:35    2234427

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Replying To Crinigan:  "He admitted he is biased. He is finished. Or at least he should be if RTE Sport have any integrity."
All panellists are biased towards their own team. Sure who really cares if they are?
All Kilkenny analysists stood up for Richey Hogan
Pat Spillane only panellist who thought Cooper fully deserved red
In soccer, Neville and Carragher are constantly biased towards their respective teams
Donal Og constantly raving about Cork

The list goes on ...

hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 101 - 11/09/2019 14:27:11    2234428

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Replying To Crinigan:  "He admitted he is biased. He is finished. Or at least he should be if RTE Sport have any integrity."
They'd have to get rid of all pundits so.

Everyone is biased one way or the other.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12682 - 11/09/2019 14:30:36    2234433

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Personally I think he is a legend. Does everyone think he is a legend?"
I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords

dakid (Australia) - Posts: 223 - 11/09/2019 14:40:04    2234448

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Brolly has only been there for entertainment value such as it was, he should have been got rid off long ago, rem his comments about Sean Cavanagh etc, he has lost the run of himself lately altogether and I really am fed up listening to him, the way he reaches out and touches the arm of the man beside him to stop him speaking is annoying too,
I'm not that fond of Spillane but the man has 8 All Ireland medals and his views are worth listening to in my opinion, I've gone a bit off Whelan this year, a good enough pundit but himself and O'Rourke are very predictable and will just make the whole thing more boring and less watchable, I think Rochford will be good on this occasion given his recent All Ireland final experiences against the Dubs but you can't have fellas currently involved as pundits. RTE need to get some new commentators too, Canning and Morrisey do my head in and don't even mention Dessie Dolan.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 755 - 11/09/2019 14:41:16    2234450

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Replying To gormdubhgorm:  "He was anti -Dublin before they started winning.
All the pantomime stuff was getting too much anyway.
He would not let other panelists speak got very frustrated if he was not the centre of attention

Not the first time he got himself into trouble - mouthing the f word when he was annoyed with Pat Spillane on air,

https://twitter.com/i/status/894574480714059776

Saying "Somebody said it's as ugly as Marty Morrissey, their football... maybe I should apologise to the people of Cavan,"

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/rt%C3%A9-warn-brolly-inappropriate-remarks-won-t-be-tolerated-1.2227863"
That's the problem though. He was the cheer leader for whoever was top dog at the time. He was Tyrones biggest fan when they were winning. Now he's dublin's. Good riddance to him.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2857 - 11/09/2019 15:09:06    2234465

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Brolly has only been there for entertainment value such as it was, he should have been got rid off long ago, rem his comments about Sean Cavanagh etc, he has lost the run of himself lately altogether and I really am fed up listening to him, the way he reaches out and touches the arm of the man beside him to stop him speaking is annoying too,
I'm not that fond of Spillane but the man has 8 All Ireland medals and his views are worth listening to in my opinion, I've gone a bit off Whelan this year, a good enough pundit but himself and O'Rourke are very predictable and will just make the whole thing more boring and less watchable, I think Rochford will be good on this occasion given his recent All Ireland final experiences against the Dubs but you can't have fellas currently involved as pundits. RTE need to get some new commentators too, Canning and Morrisey do my head in and don't even mention Dessie Dolan."
Don't need all Ireland medals to be a good pundit. some of the best are from so called weaker counties who haven't won anything.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1699 - 11/09/2019 15:12:52    2234466

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Don't need all Ireland medals to be a good pundit. some of the best are from so called weaker counties who haven't won anything."
True, but I think he has vast experience you can't deny that, there must be plenty of good people out there well capable of doing the job too.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 755 - 11/09/2019 15:18:13    2234469

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Think its good to get new people in.

Brolly was entertaining up to a few years ago but its the same
comments with him every match no matter whats happening.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 983 - 11/09/2019 15:25:00    2234472

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The fact is Brolly as an analyst finished years ago, eons ago.

He basically been using his platform to pursue agendas and games of one upmanship.

Any analyst who actually doesnt analyse games anymore being dropped isnt a loss.

I want somebody analysing the game who can pick up and point out something i may have missed myself during the course of the game, not one who tries to tell you what youve just seen with your own two eyes hasnt really happened just so he can rile up the fella next to him.

No loss.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 813 - 11/09/2019 15:50:01    2234475

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