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Dublin Vs Kerry Replay

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I spent the last 5 minutes of the game distressed that we were sitting back trying to see it out, I felt our forwards had been winning everything going into last 10 min (Inc injury time) and we had just stopped feeding them. Now the emotions have settled I can credit Dublin with the incredible finish they put in with 14. I was disappointed at the end feeling we'd left it behind us and missed a great chance. However I'm a lot more upbeat now about the replay. With the chances we created in the first 20 min that should have been took I'm a lot more confident going into this game then I was the first. Here's to another cracker

reithi (Kerry) - Posts: 52 - 08/09/2019 12:33:39    2233535

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Very surprised at the lack of confidence in Kerry again

boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 08/09/2019 12:35:45    2233536

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Replying To TheUsername:  "One area Kerry will look to improve is on managing their energy levels, they looked gased in the last 10 mins and it showed in their general play, this was after running their bench, while also keeping in mind that Dublin played over 50% of the game with one less man. To be fair Dublin brought on young legs in Small, Costello and Murch.

Was that a psychological thing or a conditioning piece, maybe a combination of both?"
15 young Kerry lads playing in their first senior allireland, can you imagine how much nervous energy would have been lost due to the lack of sleep on the night before going through game plans in their heads.

Kerry have the first final out of the way now and we played well below the standard that Peter Keane and his management set our boys, I gaurentee you there will be no nerves and lack of energy from our boys next week.

Dublin got so many lucky calls last week from their reff, in that the peno should have been retaken Stephen O'Brien should have had a penalty lyner should have had a free at the end Connolly kicked Lyne as well and where did the reff get 7 minutes of extra time from?

I can't wait till next Saturday and Sam coming home to Kerry.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/09/2019 12:41:39    2233537

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "15 young Kerry lads playing in their first senior allireland, can you imagine how much nervous energy would have been lost due to the lack of sleep on the night before going through game plans in their heads.

Kerry have the first final out of the way now and we played well below the standard that Peter Keane and his management set our boys, I gaurentee you there will be no nerves and lack of energy from our boys next week.

Dublin got so many lucky calls last week from their reff, in that the peno should have been retaken Stephen O'Brien should have had a penalty lyner should have had a free at the end Connolly kicked Lyne as well and where did the reff get 7 minutes of extra time from?

I can't wait till next Saturday and Sam coming home to Kerry."
Haha god bless your enthusiasm. Kerry were the benefactors of all the big decisions last week and well you know it. This art of deflection is rife amongst the Kerry contingent on here. Tell me, will the water boy be up to more high jinx this weekend? I believe the 7 minutes is standard these days. Subs, injuries etc. You're very lucky he only played the 7 minutes as Kerry were done otherwise. The Dubs ran ye ragged in the last 10 minutes. With 14 men lest all you Kerry lads forget and/or get too excited. Would hold off on the winners parade just yet. Dubs to prevail next day with hopefully 15 v 15. Dubs by 3.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 08/09/2019 13:04:53    2233543

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Its always inteerestinglooking at bookies odds:

Dublin: 3/10
Draw: 10/1
Kerry: 10/3

Kerry fair play have clawed that in from 5's.

They are changing the bookies minds.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/09/2019 13:21:34    2233547

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Its always interesting looking at bookies odds:

Dublin: 3/10
Draw: 10/1
Kerry: 10/3

Kerry fair play have clawed that in from 5's.

They are changing the bookies minds.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/09/2019 13:21:57    2233548

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With the confident words do the Kerry lads have themselves down as favorites?

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/09/2019 13:23:05    2233549

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "15 young Kerry lads playing in their first senior allireland, can you imagine how much nervous energy would have been lost due to the lack of sleep on the night before going through game plans in their heads.

Kerry have the first final out of the way now and we played well below the standard that Peter Keane and his management set our boys, I gaurentee you there will be no nerves and lack of energy from our boys next week.

Dublin got so many lucky calls last week from their reff, in that the peno should have been retaken Stephen O'Brien should have had a penalty lyner should have had a free at the end Connolly kicked Lyne as well and where did the reff get 7 minutes of extra time from?

I can't wait till next Saturday and Sam coming home to Kerry."
Hhmmm. Not all spring chickens.

Stephen O'Brien 28. JOD 30. Paul Murphy 28. David Moran 32, Paul Geaney 28, Shane Enright 28, Tommy Walsh 31. Kerry like to perpetuate this myth that these lads are just young naive boys, just starting off and innocent in their endeavors. But of course there are several veterans in their starting 15. The Kerry players were banjaxed with 10m to go against 14 men last week as Dublin swarmed all over them and spurned several chances to win it. A combination of Hawkeye, a Ryan catch above his crossbar and a missed Rock free saved Kerry. They got away with a few decisions as well, the dangerous high tackle on Small which was a straight red by the book, the 8 steps taken by Spillane for his goal, the 45 given in the second half that clearly wasn't... But yerra we'll give it our best shot the next day and with a bit of luck we might be able to stay in touch with these Kerry kids.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 08/09/2019 13:33:11    2233552

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Replying To TheUsername:  "With the confident words do the Kerry lads have themselves down as favorites?"
No Dublin are favourites

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 08/09/2019 13:38:48    2233553

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Replying To Joxer:  "Hhmmm. Not all spring chickens.

Stephen O'Brien 28. JOD 30. Paul Murphy 28. David Moran 32, Paul Geaney 28, Shane Enright 28, Tommy Walsh 31. Kerry like to perpetuate this myth that these lads are just young naive boys, just starting off and innocent in their endeavors. But of course there are several veterans in their starting 15. The Kerry players were banjaxed with 10m to go against 14 men last week as Dublin swarmed all over them and spurned several chances to win it. A combination of Hawkeye, a Ryan catch above his crossbar and a missed Rock free saved Kerry. They got away with a few decisions as well, the dangerous high tackle on Small which was a straight red by the book, the 8 steps taken by Spillane for his goal, the 45 given in the second half that clearly wasn't... But yerra we'll give it our best shot the next day and with a bit of luck we might be able to stay in touch with these Kerry kids."
Shane Ryan 23 , Foley 22, Morley 24 , Tom Sullivan 23, Gavin Crowley 24, O'Beaglaoich 23,
Jack Barry 24, gavin White 22, Seánie Shea 21, Adrian Spillane 24, Clifford 20, killian Spillane 23, Dara Moynihan 20, that's 13 lads starting their first senior allireland aged 24 or under, throw into that first allirelands for jack Sherwood and lyner that's 15 of the match day 20 that were inexperienced in an allireland final.

Also Peter Keane's and his management teams first senior final as a coaches bar of course Donie Buckley, that's amazing what the shop keeper from killorglin was able to achieve against a pilot from the Irish Army , it's brilliant and Peter isn't finished yet, not by a long shot.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/09/2019 16:36:04    2233579

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Shane Ryan 23 , Foley 22, Morley 24 , Tom Sullivan 23, Gavin Crowley 24, O'Beaglaoich 23,
Jack Barry 24, gavin White 22, Seánie Shea 21, Adrian Spillane 24, Clifford 20, killian Spillane 23, Dara Moynihan 20, that's 13 lads starting their first senior allireland aged 24 or under, throw into that first allirelands for jack Sherwood and lyner that's 15 of the match day 20 that were inexperienced in an allireland final.

Also Peter Keane's and his management teams first senior final as a coaches bar of course Donie Buckley, that's amazing what the shop keeper from killorglin was able to achieve against a pilot from the Irish Army , it's brilliant and Peter isn't finished yet, not by a long shot."
That would be the shopkeeper who sponsors the team. I'm not too sure what a person's profession has to do with their coaching ability so I can only assume that you threw it in their for effect and to attempt to emphasise some kind of perceived minnowism when it comes to this very experienced Kerry side. How many AI finals have these young fellas played in at Croke Park? Of the lads I named perhaps 7 would start? Almost half the team between the ages of 28-32. Pull the other one lad. This is a battle hardened Kerry outfit well tuned into Croke Park on all-Ireland final day and sure their stand out player the last day, David Moran, is in his thirties and the player who turned the tide for ye, Tommy Walsh, is also in his thirties.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 08/09/2019 17:03:55    2233584

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Shane Ryan 23 , Foley 22, Morley 24 , Tom Sullivan 23, Gavin Crowley 24, O'Beaglaoich 23,
Jack Barry 24, gavin White 22, Seánie Shea 21, Adrian Spillane 24, Clifford 20, killian Spillane 23, Dara Moynihan 20, that's 13 lads starting their first senior allireland aged 24 or under, throw into that first allirelands for jack Sherwood and lyner that's 15 of the match day 20 that were inexperienced in an allireland final.

Also Peter Keane's and his management teams first senior final as a coaches bar of course Donie Buckley, that's amazing what the shop keeper from killorglin was able to achieve against a pilot from the Irish Army , it's brilliant and Peter isn't finished yet, not by a long shot."
Bahaha g'wan outta that, Rocky V Ivan Drago :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 08/09/2019 18:02:56    2233600

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Shane Ryan 23 , Foley 22, Morley 24 , Tom Sullivan 23, Gavin Crowley 24, O'Beaglaoich 23,
Jack Barry 24, gavin White 22, Seánie Shea 21, Adrian Spillane 24, Clifford 20, killian Spillane 23, Dara Moynihan 20, that's 13 lads starting their first senior allireland aged 24 or under, throw into that first allirelands for jack Sherwood and lyner that's 15 of the match day 20 that were inexperienced in an allireland final.

Also Peter Keane's and his management teams first senior final as a coaches bar of course Donie Buckley, that's amazing what the shop keeper from killorglin was able to achieve against a pilot from the Irish Army , it's brilliant and Peter isn't finished yet, not by a long shot."
Peter Kane runs a chain of super values. He has provided 12 of the panel with jobs. Great man on and off the pitch

kerryforsam19 (Kerry) - Posts: 95 - 08/09/2019 18:18:21    2233605

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Also Peter Keane's and his management teams first senior final as a coaches bar of course Donie Buckley, that's amazing what the shop keeper from killorglin was able to achieve against a pilot from the Irish Army , it's brilliant and Peter isn't finished yet, not by a long shot.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9455 - 08/09/2019 16:36:04 2233579

The Arch Capitalist against the public servant doesn't have the same ring to it.........

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 08/09/2019 18:42:30    2233612

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The past week has been dominated by one main narrative - which team has learned the most and who has most to improve on.
The prevailing "wisdom" is that a young Kerry side had a Dublin team that didn't perform (and were a man down) on the ropes and let them off the hook. Hence they blew their chance and Dublin won't be as bad again.

But, given the idiosyncrasies of Gaelic games it's probably easier to recall a match where a team with 14 men actually lost a game than one their opponents won. For whatever reason being a man up rarely if ever translates to victory.

I'd be hopeful that last Sunday witnessed the turning of the tide, Dublin impressively refused to be beaten but could that be the last sting of a dying September wasp?

Despite the huge amount of self-confidence and self-belief every Kerry player is brought up to possess, in the back of their minds these young lads must have wondered if the media and experts were right - if this Dublin side was truly unbeatable in Croke Park. Last Sunday proved to them that they are every bit as good as Dublin, it shows the League game hinted at the real balance between both sides. Once they've got over the disappointment of the draw they will surely be hugely confident they can now finish the job.
Remember in 5 previous meetings now the tally stands at Kerry 2W 2Draws 1Defeat

People are saying key Dublin players didn't perform - yes but isn't it more the case they weren't let perform?
On the other hand three of Kerry's main forwards left their scoring boots behind them.
So who really has most capacity for improvement - for me it's Kerry.
The way some people are going on about Dublin being down to 14 men, it's as if Cooper's sending off was some miscarriage of justice. He couldn't handle Clifford and fouled him enough to be shown the line and what evidence is there he will be able to next Saturday?

Dublin are in big trouble at the back, Gavin doesn't trust his bench options for there and if the Kerry forwards play to their potential they could be ripped to shreds.

In saying all the above, finals take on a life of their own and Dublin are still justifiably favorites. But I think a lot more Kerry people are coming up next Saturday in belief rather than hope as opposed to last weekend.

And for us Kerry posters it will be funny to sit back and watch this forum go into meltdown if Kerry manage to pull off Mission Impossible II. Nothing seems to enrage the WUMs and Trolls more than the Kingdom winning matches :D

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 08/09/2019 18:44:14    2233613

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Replying To Joxer:  "That would be the shopkeeper who sponsors the team. I'm not too sure what a person's profession has to do with their coaching ability so I can only assume that you threw it in their for effect and to attempt to emphasise some kind of perceived minnowism when it comes to this very experienced Kerry side. How many AI finals have these young fellas played in at Croke Park? Of the lads I named perhaps 7 would start? Almost half the team between the ages of 28-32. Pull the other one lad. This is a battle hardened Kerry outfit well tuned into Croke Park on all-Ireland final day and sure their stand out player the last day, David Moran, is in his thirties and the player who turned the tide for ye, Tommy Walsh, is also in his thirties."
Lol jod hasn't been on the panel since we bate Mayo in the super 8s , enright was an unused sub the last day and will probably be the same the next day, I'd be surprised if enright jod and killian young don't retire at season end.

Also Tommy and David are both 31 years young. And wouldn't have the mileage on the clock due to injuries and what not, for David to come back from 2 cruciate knee injuries and a serious eye injury is a testament to the man and Tommy having his hamstring ripped from the bone, that man should hardly be able to walk.

2 Inspirational footballers and our leaders now.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/09/2019 18:52:59    2233617

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We will focus on ourselves really, it's our way.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/09/2019 19:39:23    2233627

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But, given the idiosyncrasies of Gaelic games it's probably easier to recall a match where a team with 14 men actually lost a game than one their opponents won. For whatever reason being a man up rarely if ever translates to victory.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 4950 - 08/09/2019 18:44:14 2233613

I'd wager that when 2 equal enough teams meet and one team goes a man down with a significant amount of time left the team with the extran nearly always wins.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 08/09/2019 20:01:13    2233634

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Lol jod hasn't been on the panel since we bate Mayo in the super 8s , enright was an unused sub the last day and will probably be the same the next day, I'd be surprised if enright jod and killian young don't retire at season end.

Also Tommy and David are both 31 years young. And wouldn't have the mileage on the clock due to injuries and what not, for David to come back from 2 cruciate knee injuries and a serious eye injury is a testament to the man and Tommy having his hamstring ripped from the bone, that man should hardly be able to walk.

2 Inspirational footballers and our leaders now."
I have a violin here somewhere. I'll dig it out and play a sorrowful lament for you.

Retirements, no mileage in the legs more injuries than the A&E in the Mater Hospital on a Sat night. You should send the lads to Lourdes before Saturday. I'd be amazed if you can field 15 for the replay with that list of war casualties.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 08/09/2019 20:14:13    2233641

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Replying To TheUsername:  "We will focus on ourselves really, it's our way."
Or the highway.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 08/09/2019 20:30:16    2233647

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