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Dublin Vs Kerry Replay

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How do you see it going in 2 weeks lads? Back to 15 on 15 so Dublin will surely be hot favourites.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2852 - 01/09/2019 19:45:07    2231466

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Not hot favourites. This is a good Kerry team with a good manager. The Dubs are a team in decline imho. But that said if Dubs keep 15 men on field, surely they should be favourites.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1618 - 01/09/2019 20:44:09    2231507

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Replying To galwayford:  "Not hot favourites. This is a good Kerry team with a good manager. The Dubs are a team in decline imho. But that said if Dubs keep 15 men on field, surely they should be favourites."
No evidence whatsoever that Dublin are in decline.They only won the 2016( after a replay) and 2017 Finals by a point.They played 44 minutes today down a player.That's a huge disadvantage in the modern game where so much depends on movement and athleticism.I think it was there for Kerry in the last 10 minutes.If Kerry had pushed on after taking the lead and with the extra man,I think they'd have won.Jim Gavin has plenty to think about ahead of the replay(particularly his defence) but I still think Dublin will win the next day.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1134 - 01/09/2019 20:57:26    2231522

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Dublin should win.

Kerry do have room for improvement though too. They were very wasteful up front.

I'd hope it'll be close again and would love it if Kerry were to nick it.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2641 - 01/09/2019 21:23:58    2231539

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I thought Gavin was poor on the line today, he should have switched Johnny Cooper after the peno and yellow card, Dublin are favs in my book for the replay but they will be longer odds than today, you'd have to fancy Dublin to win it but it's Kerry and they have serious talent in that team, should be another cracker, can't wait.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 755 - 01/09/2019 21:39:36    2231553

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It will be interesting to see what, if any, changes are made by both managers and also to see what changes to 'match-ups' will be made. Some of the Kerry subs made big impressions when introduced today and could be pushing for starts the next day. Kerry failed to get O'Brien into the game to much effect today while Dublin's choice of marker for Clifford did not pay off. Dublin will hope to have McCaffrey flying again the next day whilst Kerry will have to look at ways to stop him from racing through so easily. Lots for managements to mull over

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1583 - 01/09/2019 21:41:51    2231554

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Want Kerry to win but think they've missed the boat today

wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 1524 - 01/09/2019 21:48:42    2231560

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I thought Gavin was poor on the line today, he should have switched Johnny Cooper after the peno and yellow card, Dublin are favs in my book for the replay but they will be longer odds than today, you'd have to fancy Dublin to win it but it's Kerry and they have serious talent in that team, should be another cracker, can't wait."
I'd be almost certain he was going to sub him at half time. He'll be raging Cooper couldn't hold onto half time without getting sent off.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2852 - 01/09/2019 22:32:30    2231584

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I can't see Dublin playing that poorly the next day. They will have seen Clifford up close today and will have a plan. Dublin are very reliant on 3 forwards for firepower and if they don't play the scores dry up. Howard, Scully and Kilkenny are playmakers and disrupters but not scorers. We could see DC in for Scully to add some threat up there. McCarthy may start in the middle with Cian taking the CHB slot. Philly may start in the FB line. I expect a different Dublin performance the next day with a lot more physicality and urgency. Gavin will have a plan. Dubs by 3.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 3984 - 01/09/2019 22:54:24    2231606

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Is fatigue leading to more Dublin injuries? Are players getting older and starting to look at other things in life which is having an effect on the committment? Dublin are going a very long time and I've never taken to the argument money put them where they are. The more senior players are still critical to this team and I believe the nucleus of this team are a a very special group of players. Brogan, McMahon, Connolly, Cooper, Cluxton (Is it too much a risk to take him out the field for frees now?) where the main part of this period of dominance. My take on it is Dublin privately discussed 5 in a row a good few years back and it's what this team has always been driving for - I reckon Dublin will be very vulnerable in 2020. Today showed very early signs of the difficulty Dublin may face when a new young team come on the block. To me Dublin will learn from today; but I expect Kerry to be even stronger the next day; they're a serious team with a serious manager. Kerry have a panel as I think Dublin are down to barebones with limited options to geniunely change a game. Kerry's bench was unreal today and this will be the same in the replay. After watching the highlights again I tipped Kerry before today and I reckon Kerry will go on to win this All Ireland.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 486 - 01/09/2019 23:11:59    2231612

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Replying To wexico15:  "Want Kerry to win but think they've missed the boat today"
A lot of play is made of the Yerrah culture. I got up this morning and put £10 on Kerry at 9/2. Why? Because I knew Sam right well we were better than a ten point drubbing from a team that is seldom if ever stretched. As I left the pub I watched the game in here in London, I saw a gaggle of Yahoos bawling "14 men 14 men 14 men". Sure, if it makes ye feel better, feel free to start again with 15. Ye might even want to try and finish with 15 this time. Either way, I think we have yere number!

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 541 - 01/09/2019 23:15:29    2231614

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Replying To Joxer:  "I can't see Dublin playing that poorly the next day. They will have seen Clifford up close today and will have a plan. Dublin are very reliant on 3 forwards for firepower and if they don't play the scores dry up. Howard, Scully and Kilkenny are playmakers and disrupters but not scorers. We could see DC in for Scully to add some threat up there. McCarthy may start in the middle with Cian taking the CHB slot. Philly may start in the FB line. I expect a different Dublin performance the next day with a lot more physicality and urgency. Gavin will have a plan. Dubs by 3."
Dubs by three is it, your honour? Sure weren't we only expecting to be bate out the gap by ten or more today. Thanking you kindly for your leniency at the second time of asking. Sure, Kerry are bound, at the second time of asking, to miss another penalty, have the marquee forward misfire in the first half and get the yips when closing it out. It do be written in the shtars Joxer so it be. Just ahsk that sage Vince Hogan at the Indo. He do be our firhst our lahst our everythaing.

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 541 - 01/09/2019 23:34:07    2231620

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Dubs looked spooked by the Kerry forwards big time....Clifford did nothing 2day and still had da dubs rattled! Great experience for our young lads..a couple of tweaks an we've every chance.
Dubs on da way down Kerry on da way up!

blacknamber (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 01/09/2019 23:37:10    2231621

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Replying To Joxer:  "I can't see Dublin playing that poorly the next day. They will have seen Clifford up close today and will have a plan. Dublin are very reliant on 3 forwards for firepower and if they don't play the scores dry up. Howard, Scully and Kilkenny are playmakers and disrupters but not scorers. We could see DC in for Scully to add some threat up there. McCarthy may start in the middle with Cian taking the CHB slot. Philly may start in the FB line. I expect a different Dublin performance the next day with a lot more physicality and urgency. Gavin will have a plan. Dubs by 3."
A very good plan is needed for Clifford. He didn't play to his full potential at all today. He'll be determined to change that next day out. DC didn't make any real impact and yes, Philly should start in backs for certain.
Very much looking forward to Sat week.

GormlaighG (Mayo) - Posts: 69 - 02/09/2019 02:11:05    2231651

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Replying To Joxer:  "I can't see Dublin playing that poorly the next day. They will have seen Clifford up close today and will have a plan. Dublin are very reliant on 3 forwards for firepower and if they don't play the scores dry up. Howard, Scully and Kilkenny are playmakers and disrupters but not scorers. We could see DC in for Scully to add some threat up there. McCarthy may start in the middle with Cian taking the CHB slot. Philly may start in the FB line. I expect a different Dublin performance the next day with a lot more physicality and urgency. Gavin will have a plan. Dubs by 3."
Really DC in for Scully? I think that'd be crazy. Scully was really important for you guys getting the ball up the field with MDMA and Fenton more tied up than usual in midfield. He was only taken off because of the amount of work he'd put in.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2641 - 02/09/2019 03:58:22    2231656

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Dublin will win replay, Kerry missed their chance today. They're never going to get a better chance. I think their inexperience showed in the last ten minutes, they coughed up possession to Dublin several times at a stage of the match where they could have gone 2 or 3 points up. Kerry brought great energy and intensity in the first quarter but I thought their shot selection was poor. Maybe it was the adrenaline but there seemed to be a lot of Hail Mary shots from distance when maybe the ball could've been worked in closer to goal. Did Tomas O Se say they kicked 8 wides from 11 shots from play in the first half? Plus of course the goal chances they missed. Need to bring the same energy but cooler heads in the replay.

I thought Dublin had weathered the storm and had gotten on top by the sending off. They were 4 up at HT, I think they would've gone on to win by 7 or 8 15 v 15, that's why I think they'll win the replay.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1076 - 02/09/2019 05:30:18    2231663

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Dublin by 10

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 200 - 02/09/2019 06:13:44    2231665

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If McAuley starts Dublin may as well be playing with 14 from the start.

AC (None) - Posts: 312 - 02/09/2019 08:15:17    2231681

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Replying To galwayford:  "Not hot favourites. This is a good Kerry team with a good manager. The Dubs are a team in decline imho. But that said if Dubs keep 15 men on field, surely they should be favourites."
Amazed me how perceptions change after ONE game. Dublin are not in decline. Kerry though have shown they are ready to challenge, I thought they would be a year or 2 too soon but fair play to them.

That said I believe Dublin will win the replay .

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9856 - 02/09/2019 08:51:11    2231697

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Recent history suggests that you don't get second chances against the Dubs. They have, on a few occasions in recent years played poorly, but you have to take your chances on the day. Mayo didn't manage it despite having several bites at it and ended up empty-handed.

When you look at yesterday's game, Kerry had four clear goal chances, only one of which they converted. They also seemed to have developed the most unKerry like trait of kicking wides from simple positions.

They also had an extra man for over half of the game but if anything, Dublin looked the stronger team for most of the second period.

IMHO when Kerry went a point up towards the end, they started playing a bit negatively, running the ball backwards or sideways, passing the ball along their own parallelogram etc. It was odd because on the two occasions that David Moran targeted Tommy Walsh with direct ball they got scores.

I also found it odd that despite their one man advantage, Kerry were put under a lot of pressure from their own kickouts in the second half and also allowed Dublin to go short from theirs on a number of occasions.

It's hard to see Dublin being beaten the next day if the trajectory of the drawn match at 15-on-15 is any indicator.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 1676 - 02/09/2019 10:07:05    2231732

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