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Replying To jacktheDub:  "GAA get a lot of unfair stick...€180 for 2 tickets for the 1st game drops to €70 for the replay that's a fairly hefty reduction. I think they deserve a bit of credit on this one."
Firstly I have no issue with ticket pricing but your above comment technically is untrue. 2 tickets have dropped from 180 to 120 and from 120 to 70. You cant pick and choose different type tickets to make the saving even greater haha

Kingofthehill100 (Mayo) - Posts: 68 - 03/09/2019 11:51:47    2232313

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Replying To Gaillimh_Abu:  "I stopped being a youngster long ago! I have been closely following GAA since the late 70s and the overall standard of football today is the highest I have seen. Most years during the 80s we were lucky to get one or two decent games in the entire championship. The 1981 championship was particularly atrocious and I can well remember many leading commentators bemoaning the sorry state of Gaelic football at the time. Of course earlier eras produced natural footballing geniuses like Purcell and Stockwell but the way the game was played in the distant past was nothing like the popular romantic vision that exists. Players routinely booted the ball up in the air without looking - the higher the better - and if a team-mate happened to get on the end of it, that was just down to pure luck. The overall standard of shooting was terrible - just watch some old games and see for yourself.
But back to the original point of this forum - the GAA has slashed ticket prices for the replay by a third so now everyone must be completely satisfied, right?"
So basically one really entertaining and high quality game in this years championship (+ 2 or 3 partially entertaining games) means all is right with gaelic football ? Oh yeah, the overall standard of gaelic "football" is so high....the massive skill it take to pass the ball ad nauseum across the field and backwards makes it SO much better than it used to be. Most of the time watching the modern game is better for insomnia than taking sleeping tablets.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1293 - 03/09/2019 15:49:21    2232449

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "So basically one really entertaining and high quality game in this years championship (+ 2 or 3 partially entertaining games) means all is right with gaelic football ? Oh yeah, the overall standard of gaelic "football" is so high....the massive skill it take to pass the ball ad nauseum across the field and backwards makes it SO much better than it used to be. Most of the time watching the modern game is better for insomnia than taking sleeping tablets."
You didnt watch a whole of this year's Championship then?

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 267 - 03/09/2019 16:55:03    2232471

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If it goes to a fifth replay, we'll know there's a profiteering conspiracy.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 51 - 03/09/2019 17:08:59    2232474

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There will be extra time if it's a draw in normal time. But if that's tied is it a replay or penalties? Should give it to the team who scores most from play.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5498 - 03/09/2019 18:26:42    2232504

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "There will be extra time if it's a draw in normal time. But if that's tied is it a replay or penalties? Should give it to the team who scores most from play."
I'm fairly sure All Ireland Finals are exempt from any penalty shoot outs so we'd have to do it all over again.
Not sure why you'd choose points from play. Points from frees are just as valid - a player fouled in front of goal as he's about to pull the trigger. Is that score not as valid as one scored from play?
It's all immaterial anyway as the rules can't be changed in the middle of a championship

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 267 - 03/09/2019 21:55:52    2232569

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Replying To Sindar:  "I'm fairly sure All Ireland Finals are exempt from any penalty shoot outs so we'd have to do it all over again.
Not sure why you'd choose points from play. Points from frees are just as valid - a player fouled in front of goal as he's about to pull the trigger. Is that score not as valid as one scored from play?
It's all immaterial anyway as the rules can't be changed in the middle of a championship"
I'd prefer to see more scores from play that's all. They're no more valid from play than from free for sure. Either way they're hard got in a final.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5498 - 03/09/2019 22:45:56    2232587

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Replying To Sindar:  "You didnt watch a whole of this year's Championship then?"
No, as I said above I used it as a sleeping aid!

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1293 - 04/09/2019 01:09:56    2232609

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "So basically one really entertaining and high quality game in this years championship (+ 2 or 3 partially entertaining games) means all is right with gaelic football ? Oh yeah, the overall standard of gaelic "football" is so high....the massive skill it take to pass the ball ad nauseum across the field and backwards makes it SO much better than it used to be. Most of the time watching the modern game is better for insomnia than taking sleeping tablets."
Off the top of my head, here are some of the thoroughly entertaining and enjoyable games that I have watched this year: Armagh v Down, Armagh v Cavan (draw and replay), Mayo v Roscommon, Kerry v Cork, Mayo v Down, Mayo v Armagh, Cork v Dublin, Donegal v Kerry, Donegal v Mayo, Kerry v Dublin. Games of similar quality were quite rare in the 80s and anytime there was a half-decent championship game, the media would gush over it for weeks afterwards. If you can find complete footage of the Connacht finals of 1986 or 1987, I challenge you to watch it all - it is truly dreadful stuff and you will probably be scarred for life!

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 791 - 04/09/2019 07:41:49    2232622

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Replying To Gaillimh_Abu:  "Off the top of my head, here are some of the thoroughly entertaining and enjoyable games that I have watched this year: Armagh v Down, Armagh v Cavan (draw and replay), Mayo v Roscommon, Kerry v Cork, Mayo v Down, Mayo v Armagh, Cork v Dublin, Donegal v Kerry, Donegal v Mayo, Kerry v Dublin. Games of similar quality were quite rare in the 80s and anytime there was a half-decent championship game, the media would gush over it for weeks afterwards. If you can find complete footage of the Connacht finals of 1986 or 1987, I challenge you to watch it all - it is truly dreadful stuff and you will probably be scarred for life!"
That's true, but poor games 30 years ago don't make good games now. There are a lot more championship games now and players are a lot more dedicated now and coaching developments since then plus nutrituon, better pitches and facilitiues, technology etc has brought improvements. Thankfully the numbers of games with blanket defence tactics seems to dipping.

I wonder do players from 30 years ago, knowing the commitments of intercounty players look on their diets, training schedule, drink bans, gym work, paralysis by analysis and think 'we didn't play as fast, we didn't play more games, maybe they're quicker, maybe they're more skilful, but we hadn't media at us, we had no flutes on social media taking aim at us, we enjoyed the game more when it wasn't quite so pressured.'

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5498 - 04/09/2019 11:42:15    2232678

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On the heading of the thread re. profit on replay.
Both these teams gave a terrific exhibition which will go someway to rebuilding the interest in Gaelic Football. No doubt they put in massive effort over years to get to the point where they could give us that and sacrificed personal income to do so.

The replay profit should be used to compensate the 2 panels involved with say 75k each to set them up with a decent house deposit. OK I know that wont go far in South Dublin but its a help.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 265 - 04/09/2019 12:05:20    2232690

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Replying To Gaillimh_Abu:  "Off the top of my head, here are some of the thoroughly entertaining and enjoyable games that I have watched this year: Armagh v Down, Armagh v Cavan (draw and replay), Mayo v Roscommon, Kerry v Cork, Mayo v Down, Mayo v Armagh, Cork v Dublin, Donegal v Kerry, Donegal v Mayo, Kerry v Dublin. Games of similar quality were quite rare in the 80s and anytime there was a half-decent championship game, the media would gush over it for weeks afterwards. If you can find complete footage of the Connacht finals of 1986 or 1987, I challenge you to watch it all - it is truly dreadful stuff and you will probably be scarred for life!"
Oh dear Gaillimh.You say you date from the late 70s.Well, I was at the Connacht final of 1948,Mayo v Galway.Enough said.

worple (Roscommon) - Posts: 263 - 04/09/2019 12:24:34    2232699

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Replying To Ashrules:  "On the heading of the thread re. profit on replay.
Both these teams gave a terrific exhibition which will go someway to rebuilding the interest in Gaelic Football. No doubt they put in massive effort over years to get to the point where they could give us that and sacrificed personal income to do so.

The replay profit should be used to compensate the 2 panels involved with say 75k each to set them up with a decent house deposit. OK I know that wont go far in South Dublin but its a help."
Absolutely not

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2643 - 04/09/2019 17:27:01    2232820

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Pay increases in line with GAA Inflation probably coming next for all the executive management at all levels in top echelons of the organisation, so a large slice will have to be kept for that & the GPA will soon be looking for a bigger slice. Transparency on salaries would be the way forward but just as in the GPA, we might be shocked at certain levels of renumeration, so easier to fudge by giving the overall figure.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 809 - 05/09/2019 10:36:18    2232958

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Replying To Ashrules:  "On the heading of the thread re. profit on replay.
Both these teams gave a terrific exhibition which will go someway to rebuilding the interest in Gaelic Football. No doubt they put in massive effort over years to get to the point where they could give us that and sacrificed personal income to do so.

The replay profit should be used to compensate the 2 panels involved with say 75k each to set them up with a decent house deposit. OK I know that wont go far in South Dublin but its a help."
Absolutely crazy idea. Apart altogether from the how sums wouldn't stack up, consider the precedent it would set.

Somebody in the 2020 final in the same situation as Dean Rock was last week, with a free to win it in injury time. But this fella and his other half are struggling to save money to buy a house. He starts thinking...."Put this over the bar, and we win an All-Ireland Final. But if I miss it and there's a replay, we'll get a load of money for the house, and we might win the replay anyway. And then if there's another replay - will I get more money then too? Might be able to change the car as well……"

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 73 - 05/09/2019 16:33:48    2233093

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