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Michael Murphy absolutely has to get one this year,in fact i would have had him down for poty too before their abrupt exit. That defeat to Mayo cant be put at his feet either, he neither put them on his back and dragged them over the line in that one too

Pullhard1985 (USA) - Posts: 68 - 14/08/2019 16:02:40    2225670

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Replying To cavanman47:  "I know Donegal didnt make the semi finals but I think Shaun Patton has been the best goalkeeper by a mile this year. Ryan McHugh was brilliant too.

Dublin will most likely win on 1st September and I think you'll see them get 8 or 9 all stars."
If Donegal made the Semi Final or better still the final and he continued to play well. He would have got the nod.

I think Cluxton is a sure bet this year. I expect Patton to get a nomination and one of Blaine Hughes, Niall Morgan and Shane Ryan.

Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 14/08/2019 16:11:48    2225672

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Is Brain Howard really a dead cert? I don't think so."
100% dead cert. he's in the running for player of the year.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 14/08/2019 16:12:47    2225675

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Replying To keithlemon:  "If Davy Byrne has as good a final as he did semi final he's nailed on to get one in the FB line, Cooper should be getting in there too. I'd be taking Boyle and McNamee out for them, Keogan into the HB line
If McCaffrey has a good final then he's nailed on too but if not then I think McHugh might pip him
Clifford, O'Brien, Mannion, Murphy and O'Callaghan are all certs for forwards
McShane might get in there but I think its very hard to see Howard miss out, he's arguably in for POTY"
I think Boyle is very likely in there. Mayo are bound to have 1-2 in.

Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 14/08/2019 16:15:37    2225676

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I think Roscommon are likely to pick one up.

I think Conor Cox is in with a shout.

Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 14/08/2019 16:17:40    2225680

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Jayses where would you start here, we haven't a clue until the final is over, a shoe in forward might have a stinker and lose his all star, I mean you have 6 quality Dublin forwards and 6 quality Kerry forwards, who do you drop

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 14/08/2019 16:19:01    2225682

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "100% dead cert. he's in the running for player of the year."
He'd need a big final to be nominated for POTY and if he happened to a have a poor final he wouldn't get an all star. Happened to Kevin McManamon a few years ago. This all can change based on performances in the final but the 3 nominations for POTY as it stands would have to be Fenton, Stephen O'Brien and Con O'Callaghan and if they go for a 4th Cathal McShane deserves a nomination.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 14/08/2019 16:20:01    2225683

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Replying To hopballref:  "Cluxton - Dublin

Byrne - Dublin
Cooper - Dublin
O'Sullivan - Kerry

McHugh - Donegal
Durcan - Mayo
McCaffrey - Dublin

Fenton - Dublin
Murphy - Donegal

Mannion - Dublin
Howard - Dublin
O'Brien - Kerry

Clifford - Kerry
McShane - Tyrone
Callaghan - Dublin"
No Keogan???

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/08/2019 16:20:37    2225684

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Expect 3 from Meath to be nominated, lavin McGill and keoghan, expect keoghan to get a all star.
We were screwed over in 10 with Graham Reilly nothing getting one. Don't think they will do same this year. Either 6/7 will be keoghan and I'll be singing all the way to bank. Had told people to put money on at 18/1 in beginning of year , and also at 9/1 before Leinster final.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/08/2019 16:24:45    2225686

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Replying To Gator:  "I think Roscommon are likely to pick one up.

I think Conor Cox is in with a shout."
Conor Cox was brilliant in the Connacht championship and will probably still get nominated but his dip in form during the super 8's will cost him an all star this year. Same thing happened to Donegal's Jamie Brennan.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 14/08/2019 16:33:56    2225694

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Can't see it , who does he get in instead of ? The front 6 are already picked imo , midfield will be Fenton and Moran so can't see him getting in there either.


O Brien - dead cert
Clifford - dead cert
Howard - dead cert
Con - dead cert
Mcshane - dead cert
Mannion - dead cert

The next group will be off the top of my head;

Geaney
Rock
Kilkenny
Scully
McHugh
Doherty
O Se
Donnelly
Murphy

Very hard to
See how he gets in"
Grand sure come back to me when he doesn't get in.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7896 - 14/08/2019 16:43:51    2225697

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Can't see it , who does he get in instead of ? The front 6 are already picked imo , midfield will be Fenton and Moran so can't see him getting in there either.


O Brien - dead cert
Clifford - dead cert
Howard - dead cert
Con - dead cert
Mcshane - dead cert
Mannion - dead cert

The next group will be off the top of my head;

Geaney
Rock
Kilkenny
Scully
McHugh
Doherty
O Se
Donnelly
Murphy

Very hard to
See how he gets in"
could be picked at midfield

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 14/08/2019 17:36:11    2225722

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Replying To Mobot:  "Conor Cox was brilliant in the Connacht championship and will probably still get nominated but his dip in form during the super 8's will cost him an all star this year. Same thing happened to Donegal's Jamie Brennan."
Aye its a fair comment.

Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 14/08/2019 18:12:47    2225739

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "100% dead cert. he's in the running for player of the year."
He's not in running for player of the year, he's a 25/1 outsider. How COC is ahead of mannion in the betting for poty I don't know.....mannion has been exceptional, and unmarkable all year.......seems cons stock has risen dramatically since his 2 goals against mayo. Clearly a brilliant player, but I thought up to the roscommon game he had a quiet year, averaging only 2 points a game. Mannion and Stephan obrien were consistantly better all year. Of course COC could have a brilliant final

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 888 - 14/08/2019 18:54:55    2225759

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Replying To hopballref:  "Cluxton - Dublin

Byrne - Dublin
Cooper - Dublin
O'Sullivan - Kerry

McHugh - Donegal
Durcan - Mayo
McCaffrey - Dublin

Fenton - Dublin
Murphy - Donegal

Mannion - Dublin
Howard - Dublin
O'Brien - Kerry

Clifford - Kerry
McShane - Tyrone
Callaghan - Dublin"
Cooper?? Did he even play a game before the end of July?? No way he gets one

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 888 - 14/08/2019 18:57:02    2225761

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I'll be annoyed when Murphy doesn't get a POTY nomination he's been that good all year. I know it's just understood majority of All Stars are the finalists and the POTY nominees are all finalists but he has been an absolute colossus this year, best he's ever been and nearly dragged us to the semi-final on his own in Castlebar.

With the Super 8s as well the finalists only have 2 more games than him over the season to "properly impress".

I dislike the All-Stars in general anyway, individual awards supposedly but unless your team make a semi-final at the least you've no chance really. Plenty great summers from Cavan, Armagh, Roscommon, Cork players individually but none of them will get a look in.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 14/08/2019 20:50:15    2225804

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "I'll be annoyed when Murphy doesn't get a POTY nomination he's been that good all year. I know it's just understood majority of All Stars are the finalists and the POTY nominees are all finalists but he has been an absolute colossus this year, best he's ever been and nearly dragged us to the semi-final on his own in Castlebar.

With the Super 8s as well the finalists only have 2 more games than him over the season to "properly impress".

I dislike the All-Stars in general anyway, individual awards supposedly but unless your team make a semi-final at the least you've no chance really. Plenty great summers from Cavan, Armagh, Roscommon, Cork players individually but none of them will get a look in."
Murphy is class but in their biggest game of the season when Donegal needed him most he kicked wide after wide, for Murphy's standards they were easy wides at that.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 14/08/2019 22:19:06    2225846

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Replying To hopballref:  "Cluxton - Dublin

Byrne - Dublin
Cooper - Dublin
O'Sullivan - Kerry

McHugh - Donegal
Durcan - Mayo
McCaffrey - Dublin

Fenton - Dublin
Murphy - Donegal

Mannion - Dublin
Howard - Dublin
O'Brien - Kerry

Clifford - Kerry
McShane - Tyrone
Callaghan - Dublin"
You must be joking with Byrne and Cooper in full backline. Cooper might with a man of the match display in final. Alot of good half back this year. I would personally put keogan into fullback line.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 509 - 14/08/2019 22:36:16    2225854

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Dublin win SAM and will have to get 6-7 players

If Kerry put up a fight it's 6, if not - 7. Whallop them and it could be 8 or 9.

So assuming they beat the press by 2 points (their usual)

Cluxton - Dublin

Byrne - Dublin
Fitzimon - Dublin
O'Sullivan - Kerry

Boyle - Mayo
Durcan - Mayo
McCaffrey - Dublin

Fenton - Dublin
Murphy - Donegal

Callaghan - Dublin
Howard - Dublin
O'Brien - Kerry

Clifford - Kerry
McShane - Tyrone
Mannion - Dublin


If Kerry push Dublin close you could see Moran and Geaney in for Howard and Callaghan

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 14/08/2019 22:54:21    2225856

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Murphy is class but in their biggest game of the season when Donegal needed him most he kicked wide after wide, for Murphy's standards they were easy wides at that."
You need to look at the All Stars more objectively Clondalklin. You shouldn't just be basing it off a players performance relative to their own standards. You are punishing Murphy because of the standards he has set. That isn't how All Stars should be picked. Cluxton has suffered the same fate in recent years.

I think you mentioned that Brian Howard should get one ahead of Murphy. Objectively, as good as Howard has been, have any of his individual performances been at the same level as what Murphy was against Tyrone, Meath or Kerry. Answer it honestly, if you answer yes, you are only kidding yourself. I think Howard does deserve an All Star too by the way, just incase you thought that's what I was getting at.

You cant come out with a statement saying Murphy kicked wide after wide against Mayo which simply isn't true. He was colossal in the second half and single handedly dragged Donegal through that game kicking 2 wonder points and a huge goal under pressure. He did hit a couple of wides, but the fact of the matter is if he wasnt on the field, Donegal would have been beat by double figures.

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 15/08/2019 09:11:28    2225904

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