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Offaly V Kerry, 1982

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Eugene Magees quip prior to the game about his players nerves before the game. I might not have it exactly but it went something like this : " how are the lads handling the pressure of the All Ireland."..reply by Magee : they are fairly bad ..there are lads in there ( the dressing room) that haven't had a pint since last Wednesday night...class !!!

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1078 - 12/08/2019 19:47:25    2224860

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Replying To realdub:  "I think we were 5 or 6 points up at that juncture believe it or not. But the Sheehy lob sparked them into action and we couldn't handle Liston after that."
Thanks, Joxer, Real Dub and Avonali for your reflections on the 1978 final.

I felt at the time that the first and third goals were the important ones in dictating the direction of the game. In the early stages, Dublin were leading 0-6 to 0-1 and on the attack. They looked like building up a decisive lead. John Egan's goal stopped Dublin's momentum and threw the game into the melting pot. After Mike Sheehy's goal, the game remained in the balance (2-3 to 0-7) but with Kerry having the slight edge. Dublin responded with the next point to leave it finely poised 2-3 to 0-8 at half time.

The third goal made it 3-3 to 0-8 and for the first time, I felt Kerry were going to win. Dublin didn't respond this time and the next goal (4-3 to 0-8) made the result almost inevitable. It was one way traffic thereafter.

The referee made the wrong decision in the lead up to Mike Sheehy's goal. Ger Power was the guilty party. A few minutes earlier, in a similar incident, Paddy Cullen had fouled Ger Power but there was no free given. The Kerry supporters booed Cullen and this may have contributed to the ref's misreading of the second incident.

It's 41 years ago now so my recollections could be faulty.

tommy58 (Dublin) - Posts: 169 - 13/08/2019 21:02:11    2225282

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I might be slated here by my fellow county men but I never had a problem with the goal. A cute nudge I'm sure had been done before and many times since, but I've always questioned the two frees Offaly got roughly ten mins from time (Iif memory serves correctly) which kept them in it when Kerry were four up. They seemed extremely soft to me, maybe I'm being totally biased. Those frees more than anything else in that game puzzled me. It's been a while since I've seen it so maybe someone who has seen it recently could give their view. Offaly were magnificent that day, all of their half back line scoring, never been seen before. They were with Kerry score for score bar maybe 10+ mins of 2nd half. Still believe Jacko should've taken penalty. But all that said it was a cracking goal. Anyone with other views on those frees.

bernard3 (Kerry) - Posts: 106 - 13/08/2019 21:55:32    2225312

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Replying To bernard3:  "I might be slated here by my fellow county men but I never had a problem with the goal. A cute nudge I'm sure had been done before and many times since, but I've always questioned the two frees Offaly got roughly ten mins from time (Iif memory serves correctly) which kept them in it when Kerry were four up. They seemed extremely soft to me, maybe I'm being totally biased. Those frees more than anything else in that game puzzled me. It's been a while since I've seen it so maybe someone who has seen it recently could give their view. Offaly were magnificent that day, all of their half back line scoring, never been seen before. They were with Kerry score for score bar maybe 10+ mins of 2nd half. Still believe Jacko should've taken penalty. But all that said it was a cracking goal. Anyone with other views on those frees."
I'd have to look at that match again to pass comment on the frees, although I do recall Pat Spillane talking about Offaly getting some very soft frees prior to the goal.

But anyone that follows GAA knows that referees in both codes, at every level of the game from under 13 to senior all Ireland final, since the beginning of the association, give losing teams handy frees in order to "make a game of it".

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 14/08/2019 02:01:46    2225376

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Replying To bernard3:  "I might be slated here by my fellow county men but I never had a problem with the goal. A cute nudge I'm sure had been done before and many times since, but I've always questioned the two frees Offaly got roughly ten mins from time (Iif memory serves correctly) which kept them in it when Kerry were four up. They seemed extremely soft to me, maybe I'm being totally biased. Those frees more than anything else in that game puzzled me. It's been a while since I've seen it so maybe someone who has seen it recently could give their view. Offaly were magnificent that day, all of their half back line scoring, never been seen before. They were with Kerry score for score bar maybe 10+ mins of 2nd half. Still believe Jacko should've taken penalty. But all that said it was a cracking goal. Anyone with other views on those frees."
They were very, very soft frees.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 17/08/2019 09:12:23    2226677

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Replying To ballydalane:  "I'd have to look at that match again to pass comment on the frees, although I do recall Pat Spillane talking about Offaly getting some very soft frees prior to the goal.

But anyone that follows GAA knows that referees in both codes, at every level of the game from under 13 to senior all Ireland final, since the beginning of the association, give losing teams handy frees in order to "make a game of it"."
Tell that to Allan Kelly. Alright I am only acting the cod. However why are we discussing '82 at this time. Lads, there is no way the result will be changed. It is over and done with. It is now surely time to look forward.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 17/08/2019 09:49:40    2226693

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Offaly stuck at it. They dared to dream. They rode their luck. No problem at all with their winning... after three and a half decades of therapy that is.

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 17/08/2019 17:25:39    2226791

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