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All it would take was for a Laois over Dublin style victory to have everyone saying "Sure whats the point in winning Leinster/Munster".
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 31/07/2019 16:57:00 2219169 Link 0 |
You are right. I should have said gaelic games not GAA but mostly I was being dramatic. But so is anyone who thinks the provintials are dead when it looks pretty clear most hurling fans loved it the last 2 years Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 31/07/2019 21:29:39 2219240 Link 0 |
Not all goal tenders-as you call them- were as timid as that. I once played in a full back line completely devoid of skill, speed or hurling intelligence ( these delightful attributes was no hindrance to been selected in the junior full back lines of my youth). Behind us was a goalkeeper who defended his lines with an almost manical hatred for approach opposition players. As a we battled to keep out equally useless forwards our hero would exhort us to 'let in the hoors and I'll skull 'em.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 31/07/2019 21:47:22 2219248 Link 0 |
Would'nt that be briliiant if one of the McDonagh teams beat a provincial winner.
Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 31/07/2019 22:56:50 2219282 Link 0 |
I think ClubGAA's tweaking of the system is the best suggestion so far. Keeps the AI QFs and SFs which have been been magical the last number of years; gives the provincial champions a "loosener" against the McDonagh teams before their semi-final; gives the McDonagh teams a chance to have a crack at a "big" team; increases the "punishment" for finishing third in the group (under the current system the 3rd teams faced Laois and Westmeath, under the revised system they'd have faced Tipp and Kilkenny - big difference). The more I think about it the more I like it. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 31/07/2019 23:29:43 2219289 Link 0 |
Yes that is the best that can be done. I started this thread, but up to now I have always defended the Provincial Championships. I remember, and was there, on days like Thurles '73,( LK after 18 years) Thurles '95 ( Clare ' after 63 years and I went to Ennis on that beautiful Sunday evening to celebrate. I travelled with a Clare man and as we passed pubs in East Limerick, on our return journey, people drinking Al fresco bedecked in Limerick jerseys raised their glasses to 'The Banners' flying high. An absolutely memorable day. In 96 I was in Cork for the replayed Munster Final, but I made my way to Gorey for the Wexford homecoming, (after 28 years) It was again an unforgettable night. I also remember the huge celebrations in Clare (92), Leitrim '94, Laois 03 and Westmeath 04 when provincial success was achieved by counties who had little real chance of All Ireland glory. Days like those make the provincial championships highly defensible, but I think will wither on the vine if the present system remains as it is. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 01/08/2019 11:26:13 2219371 Link 0 |
I think the best thing that could be done would be to just have a 12 team league. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4225 - 01/08/2019 11:58:20 2219387 Link 6 |
I believe they should be moved to replace the league as an individual competition. Open competition in summer tied to provincial championships where teams are seeded based on how they faired. Buachaillbui (Clare) - Posts: 118 - 01/08/2019 21:29:19 2219575 Link 0 |
ah here we don't want to wait until we have all shuffled off this mortal coil for the changes to happen :)
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 01/08/2019 21:44:47 2219578 Link 0 |
;-)
Buachaillbui (Clare) - Posts: 118 - 01/08/2019 23:01:53 2219609 Link 0 |
100% Tipp wanted to win Munster this year. They were completely overpowered by a better team on the day. Possibly believed the hype too. You could also argue Limerick are just a better team anyway and we never would beat them in Limerick anyway. Provincials are so important. Some teams can strive for a provincial win but an all ireland is sometimes an unrealistic aim. Getting rid of them reduces cship cups from 3 to 1. It won't and should never happen, especially not now. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 01/08/2019 23:39:13 2219619 Link 0 |
Provincial champions + Joe McDonagh champions advance to SF. The teams who finish third play the provincial losers. The two winners have a play-off to decide who gets the final spot in the semi-final. Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 02/08/2019 01:20:46 2219627 Link 0 |
To your point - why not have a Lein 6 and Muns 6 (latter 6th is either Kerry or 7th Lein). Prov 5 game round robin - top 3 of 6 in each to AI KO. NHL - Each 6 plays 6 Inter-Prov - top 3 of 6 in each to AI KO. Best 4 of 12 to AI KO QFs - other 8 of 12 to AI QF Playoff Rd. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 02/08/2019 01:25:03 2219628 Link 0 |
Haha , ah shure we can all live in hope :-)
Buachaillbui (Clare) - Posts: 118 - 02/08/2019 08:04:22 2219637 Link 0 |
The Leinster Championship was great this year. The Munster Championship didn't get going but it was still good and attracted big crowds. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7844 - 02/08/2019 09:32:39 2219650 Link 0 |
There is also a problem with the sequencing of the round robin games - some teams play 3 games on the hop - while my Cork had a 3-week break in the 2019 middle - for simple solution - have the bye schedule as follows - A, BCD, E, ABC, D, E.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 09/08/2019 16:33:48 2223118 Link 0 |
The McDonagh Cup runs the fixture list correctly for a 5 team group. It might mean that a team might play 2 home games before there away games or vice versa but it ensures all teams do not play more than 2 weekends in a row. Example: Week 1. 1v4, 2v5 Week 2. 5v3, 4v2 Week 3. 3v1 Week 4. 4v5 Week 5. 5v1, 2v3 Week 6. 1v2, 3v4 legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7844 - 09/08/2019 19:40:45 2223177 Link 0 |
Time to have open draw both codes knockout ....let the players and in particular their families have a life out side gaa in summer Hitnhurl (Cork) - Posts: 92 - 09/08/2019 20:54:47 2223189 Link 0 |
Players dont want open draw knock out though. They want more games not less.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 09/08/2019 21:39:14 2223211 Link 0 |
Do they? Thanks for that poll can you give me a reference for that study please ? The gaa want more games more money
Hitnhurl (Cork) - Posts: 92 - 09/08/2019 22:02:32 2223220 Link 1 |