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Whats Going On In Westmeath Hurling?

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Spot on with all your points there. There's managers from some of the traditional counties getting these jobs and the only reason is, is because of where they're born.
Also spot on with Colm Bonnar. Was disappointed he didn't seem to get a look in for the tipp job last year."
Colm Bonnar is a good manager but didnt do very well in Wexford......

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11851 - 27/07/2019 20:52:20    2217241

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Spot on with all your points there. There's managers from some of the traditional counties getting these jobs and the only reason is, is because of where they're born.
Also spot on with Colm Bonnar. Was disappointed he didn't seem to get a look in for the tipp job last year."
It's a funny one, sometimes outside managers work well and sometimes it doesn't.

We had John Myler in carlow and it didn't work and then Colm Bonnar comes in and he's won everything.

Same with Leix and Eddie Brennan.

I will say for Quaid that he had Kildare at a very good level before he left but in Westmeath maybe the players wanted a change.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 27/07/2019 21:03:04    2217247

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Replying To Viking66:  "Colm Bonnar is a good manager but didnt do very well in Wexford......"
True but you have to learn your trade too and maybe it was too big of a job too soon. Wexford also hadn't the young players then that they have now. Without trying to sound disrespectful I don't think there were too many top players on that team...

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/07/2019 21:07:08    2217253

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Replying To Ej:  "Methinks the new man in has maybe already been chosen."
totally agree

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1802 - 27/07/2019 21:07:11    2217254

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Replying To tiobraid:  "True but you have to learn your trade too and maybe it was too big of a job too soon. Wexford also hadn't the young players then that they have now. Without trying to sound disrespectful I don't think there were too many top players on that team..."
I know some of the players might not have been as good but more importantly they werent fit, played a bad tactical game, and were poorly motivated. Obviously Colm Bonnar has done well since so has probably got better at the tactics and motivation and realised that being fit enough to play for only 55 minutes is no good in a game that lasts 70. The Carlow lads were maybe easier to manage as a team in that they wouldve been very familiar with playing with and against eachother as there are only 4 senior clubs.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11851 - 28/07/2019 11:16:58    2217473

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Replying To Viking66:  "I know some of the players might not have been as good but more importantly they werent fit, played a bad tactical game, and were poorly motivated. Obviously Colm Bonnar has done well since so has probably got better at the tactics and motivation and realised that being fit enough to play for only 55 minutes is no good in a game that lasts 70. The Carlow lads were maybe easier to manage as a team in that they wouldve been very familiar with playing with and against eachother as there are only 4 senior clubs."
True enough.

You wexford lads are always difficult to manage.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 28/07/2019 11:42:36    2217489

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Let it be said the Westmeath CB have treated Joe Quaid with the same ruthlessness and disrespect as they did to Pat Flanagan exactly 2 years ago when he was sacked, the first he heard about it was when his wife told him she read it on social media, enough said.
Similarly, when Joe asked for an explanation to his own dismissal he said he is as wise now as what he was before he asked the question.
His achievements in 11 months speaks volumes
Because someone doesn't like him doesn't make him a bad manager, in other words it's not a personality competition.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 28/07/2019 15:35:08    2217608

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Replying To supersub15:  "Let it be said the Westmeath CB have treated Joe Quaid with the same ruthlessness and disrespect as they did to Pat Flanagan exactly 2 years ago when he was sacked, the first he heard about it was when his wife told him she read it on social media, enough said.
Similarly, when Joe asked for an explanation to his own dismissal he said he is as wise now as what he was before he asked the question.
His achievements in 11 months speaks volumes
Because someone doesn't like him doesn't make him a bad manager, in other words it's not a personality competition."
It was with Offaly that Pat Flanagan learned of his sacking from his wife via social media but the Westmeath CB did treat him with contempt as well. Flanagan had brought Westmeath to Division 1 and was told he would have to come in for another interview. From speaking to a member of the panel, the players were surprised by the decision to get rid of Quaid and they found out by social media. Next year will be a baptism of fire for whoever comes in next.

Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 29/07/2019 14:22:46    2218221

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Replying To Concerned_Supp:  "It was with Offaly that Pat Flanagan learned of his sacking from his wife via social media but the Westmeath CB did treat him with contempt as well. Flanagan had brought Westmeath to Division 1 and was told he would have to come in for another interview. From speaking to a member of the panel, the players were surprised by the decision to get rid of Quaid and they found out by social media. Next year will be a baptism of fire for whoever comes in next."
Thanks for that.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 29/07/2019 17:37:40    2218360

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Replying To westmeathgaa11:  "Counties like Westmeath Offaly etc. should look inside for homegrown managers who actually care about the cause"
I agree but they dont exactly treat them any better than external managers (i.e. Pat Flanagan and Kevin Martin in offaly - both dismissed in deplorable fashion). If a team is going to put in a home grown manager they need to be given a number of years to achieve what they want! i.e. 5 years. Look at Cody, Harte and Gavin! Continuity is what works!

faithful4ever (Offaly) - Posts: 209 - 31/07/2019 10:21:25    2219014

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