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Jesus I've opened a fair aul can of worms here!
Fenton over O'Shea is a fair enough correction on the team I posted. I think Aidan has suffered from being too versatile. Can anyone truly say what his best position is? I always thought Mayo missed a trick by not just playing him at full forward. It's not as though they were badly off at midfield that Aidan simply HAD to play there. I mean you had his brother for starters, Parsons, Vaughan, big Barry Moran and even Keegan could have done a job.
Too often O'Shea has been gassed in the very big games too early. Why not just play him full forward? He's like a wrecking ball and would immediately cause consternation in the opposition ranks.
Away off topic I know but just a few thoughts on it because some of the comments on this thread on him have been quite disparaging and I don't think it's fair on a player who, like it or not, has been an iconic Gaelic footballer this decade.
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Cavanagh ahead of Fenton and Moran and if you say otherwise you're bleating in my opinion.
SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 384 - 25/07/2019 23:20:04
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Replying To yew_tree: "I can't argue with Fenton over O Se...I do wonder though if Fenton was a Mayo or Tyrone player for example would he be as sublime? He went into a class team, his stats are off the charts put in a poorer team would he be unbeaten in championship?
Likewise I wonder would Aidan O Se be better/more influential if he was in this Dublin team?" I'm not so sure. I like O'Shea and thinks he's a gifted player but would he have the mobility - or the engine- that Gavin requires especially in his middle 8 players?
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 25/07/2019 23:59:39
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Replying To yew_tree: "I can't argue with Fenton over O Se...I do wonder though if Fenton was a Mayo or Tyrone player for example would he be as sublime? He went into a class team, his stats are off the charts put in a poorer team would he be unbeaten in championship?
Likewise I wonder would Aidan O Se be better/more influential if he was in this Dublin team?" No I don't think he'd be unbeaten in a different team. He is a cog in the wheel. He has a better engine than AOS, he gets up and down, he's an excellent fielder and can clip a point as well. The last couple of years he has been greatly assisted by Howard, the next Paul Flynn in my book, and the rebirth of McCauley this year has certainly boosted Fenton's game also. AOS is an enigma. I've seen him have some great games and rule the middle sector but I've also seen him being overrun, more the latter than the former. He struggles to cover the ground sometimes and I think that's his achilles heel. When he does click though, he can determine the outcome of a game.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 26/07/2019 00:04:06
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Replying To RealTalk101: "Anyone that picks a team of the decade without including Brian Fenton is absurd. Fenton is unbeaten in all Championship games he played, and is the rolls Royce of this fantastic Dublin squad. A proper all rounder, can field, kick pass and shoot off left and right, and his sheer athleticism makes him a superb footballer. I genuinely believe there is an argument that he is the best footballer to ever grace the game. Lots of people won't like to hear it as he's a Dub" I'm watching the dubs since the 80's and he's the best player I've ever seen wearing a Dublin geansai. Seamus Moynihan was the best player I'd seen previously but Fenton amazes me.
Cluxton
Cooper
Mc Gee
Higgins
Mc Caffrey
O Sullivan
Keegan
Fenton
Cavanagh
Kilkenny
Mc Hugh
Harte
Mc manus
Murphy
Brogan
Struggling leaving out Mc Carthy, Geaney, A o Shea,Connolly and Mc Brearty.
CaogaCuig (Dublin) - Posts: 63 - 26/07/2019 00:53:05
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Replying To superdub: "Donal Keoghan at 6 and captain. surely one of the greatest half backs of the decade" Definitely one of the greatest of this decade. Couldn't have a team without him.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/07/2019 08:32:59
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GK: David Clarke (Mayo) - Cluxton's kick-outs revolutionised the game but his shot-stopping isn't really tested given the quality of players in front of him- Clarke, on the other hand, made numerous match-winning saves for Mayo over the decade.
Honourable Mentions: Stephen Cluxton (Dublin), Rory Beggan (Monaghan), Niall Morgan (Tyrone).
RCB: Karl Lacey (Donegal)
FB: Aidan O'Mahony (Kerry)
LCB: Keith Higgins (Mayo)
Honourable Mentions: Paddy McGrath, Neil McGee, Frank McGlynn (Donegal), Chris Barrett, Brendan Harrison (Mayo), Drew Wylie, Colin Walshe, Vinny Corey (Monaghan), Padraig Hampsey (Tyrone), Jonny Cooper, Philly McMahon (Dublin).
RHB: Lee Keegan (Mayo)
CHB: James McCarthy (Dublin)
LHB: Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)
Honourable Mentions: Paul Murphy, Peter Crowley (Kerry), Karl O'Connell, Dessie Mone (Monaghan), Donal Vaughan (Mayo), Kevin Cassidy (Donegal).
MF: Brian Fenton (Dublin)
MF: David Moran (Kerry)
Honourable Mentions: Michael-Dara McAuley, Dennis Bastick (Dublin), Rory Kavanagh, Neil Gallagher (Donegal), Anthoney Maher (Kerry), Aidan Walsh (Cork), Tom Parsons (Mayo), Darren Hughes (Monaghan).
RHF: Ryan McHugh (Donegal)
CHF: Diarmuid Connolly (Dublin)
LHF: Paul Flynn (Dublin)
Honourable Mentions: Kevin McManamon, Con O'Callaghan (Dublin), Mattie Donnelly, Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone), Enda Smith (Roscommon), Odhran McNeilis (Donegal), Donnachadh Walsh (Kerry).
RCF: Conor McManus (Monaghan)
FF: Michael Murphy (Donegal)
LCF: Andy Moran (Mayo)
Honourable Mentions: Patrick Mc Brearty, Colm McFadden (Donegal), Kieran Donaghey, James O'Donnaghue, Colm Cooper (Kerry), Damien Comer, Shane Walsh (Galway), John Heslin (Westmeath), Colm O'Neill (Cork), Cillian O'Connor (Mayo).
'Controversial' Ommissions: Bernard Brogan and Aidan O'Shea - whilst I admire both players, I feel those listed above have delivered more on the big occasions. Cian O'Sullivan, Colm Cavanagh, Peter Harte and Ciaran Kilkenny are all players who don't necessarily fit into traditional GAA positions and I didn't' consider forcing them into a position at the expense of others." Very nice pick and listing. I wouldn't agree with all but that's the nature of opinions. One point though, Kevin Cassidy as an honourable mention? You might correct me but did he last play for Donegal in 2011? He practically missed the decade."
In hindsight, there are a few others that probably merit consideration also: Brian Howard, Niall Scully, Paul Mannion, Cormac Costello (all Dublin); Jonny Doyle and Emmett Bolton of Kildare also.
hashtag (Donegal) - Posts: 37 - 26/07/2019 13:11:22
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Jesus I've opened a fair aul can of worms here!
Fenton over O'Shea is a fair enough correction on the team I posted. I think Aidan has suffered from being too versatile. Can anyone truly say what his best position is? I always thought Mayo missed a trick by not just playing him at full forward. It's not as though they were badly off at midfield that Aidan simply HAD to play there. I mean you had his brother for starters, Parsons, Vaughan, big Barry Moran and even Keegan could have done a job.
Too often O'Shea has been gassed in the very big games too early. Why not just play him full forward? He's like a wrecking ball and would immediately cause consternation in the opposition ranks.
Away off topic I know but just a few thoughts on it because some of the comments on this thread on him have been quite disparaging and I don't think it's fair on a player who, like it or not, has been an iconic Gaelic footballer this decade." Agreed on Aiden O'Shea. I'd love to see him get a proper run at FF. He could still drift out for kickouts etc but I think he could have been one of the all time greats at FF.
Good thread, finding out hard to pick a team to be honest.
At least you weren't resurrecting the old Kerry/Tyrone pissing contest from the 00s like I feared when I read the title.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 26/07/2019 14:48:46
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Cillian O'Connor wouldn't get in the Dublin team, no way near the team of the decade for me. His record from play against the Dubs in semi's and finals is poor from play. Mayo play attacking football and their forwards get plenty of chances to shine which he never really has done on the big occassion.
He might have scored 3 points from play in the 2017 final but he missed some relatively easy ones in the first half when Mayo were well on top.
He's a very good player and he's been brilliantly consistent but he's way down the list of top forwards in the country.
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Right best I can do, putting in subs as well.
1. Stephen Cluxton (Áth Cliath)
2. Karl Lacey (Dún na nGall)
3. Neil McGee (Dún na nGall)
4. Phill McMahon (Áth Cliath)
5. Lee Keegan (Maigh Eo)
6. James McCarthy (Áth Cliath)
7. Ryan McHugh (Dún na nGall)
8. Brian Fenton (Áth Cliath)
9. Gary Brennan (An Clár)
10. Paul Flynn (Áth Cliath)
11. Mattie Donnelly (Tír Eoghain)
12. Diarmuid Connolly (Áth Cliath)
13. Bernard Brogan (Áth Cliath)
14. Michael Murphy (Dún na nGall)
15. Conor McManus (Muineachán)
Subs:
Paul Durcan (Dún na nGall)
Keith Higgins (Maigh Eo)
Dónal Keoghan (An Mhí)
Jack McCaffrey (Áth Cliath)
Peter Harte (Tír Eoghain)
Colm Boyle (Maigh Eo)
Aiden O'Shea (Maigh Eo)
Kevin McKiernan (An Dún)
Ciarán Kilkenny (Áth Cliath)
Cillian O'Connor (Maigh Eo)
Kevin McManoman (Áth Cliath)
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 26/07/2019 15:28:36
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Gaelic Football XV
1. Paul Durcan (Donegal)
2. Marc Ó Sé (Kerry)
3. Neil McGee (Donegal)
4. Keith Higgins (Mayo)
5. Lee Keegan (Mayo)
6. Karl Lacey (Donegal)
7. Colm Boyle (Mayo)
8. David Moran (Kerry)
9. Neil Gallagher (Donegal)
10. Michael Murphy (Donegal)
11. Colm Cooper (Kerry)
12. Donnchadh Walsh (Kerry)
13. Conor McManus (Monaghan)
14. Andy Moran (Mayo)
15. Paul Geaney (Kerry)
Subs:
16. David Clarke (Mayo)
17. Colm Cavanagh (Tyrone)
18. Ryan McHugh (Donegal)
19. Paul Murphy (Kerry)
20. Colin Walshe (Monaghan)
21. Gary Brennan (Clare)
22. Aidan O'Shea (Mayo)
23. Peter Harte (Tyrone)
24. David Clifford (Kerry)
25. Michael Quinlivan (Tipperary)
26. James O'Donoghue (Kerry)
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Replying To legendzxix: "Gaelic Football XV
1. Paul Durcan (Donegal)
2. Marc Ó Sé (Kerry)
3. Neil McGee (Donegal)
4. Keith Higgins (Mayo)
5. Lee Keegan (Mayo)
6. Karl Lacey (Donegal)
7. Colm Boyle (Mayo)
8. David Moran (Kerry)
9. Neil Gallagher (Donegal)
10. Michael Murphy (Donegal)
11. Colm Cooper (Kerry)
12. Donnchadh Walsh (Kerry)
13. Conor McManus (Monaghan)
14. Andy Moran (Mayo)
15. Paul Geaney (Kerry)
Subs:
16. David Clarke (Mayo)
17. Colm Cavanagh (Tyrone)
18. Ryan McHugh (Donegal)
19. Paul Murphy (Kerry)
20. Colin Walshe (Monaghan)
21. Gary Brennan (Clare)
22. Aidan O'Shea (Mayo)
23. Peter Harte (Tyrone)
24. David Clifford (Kerry)
25. Michael Quinlivan (Tipperary)
26. James O'Donoghue (Kerry)" I can't believe you haven't got a single......... Galway player in your panel.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2046 - 26/07/2019 17:41:33
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Replying To legendzxix: "Gaelic Football XV
1. Paul Durcan (Donegal)
2. Marc Ó Sé (Kerry)
3. Neil McGee (Donegal)
4. Keith Higgins (Mayo)
5. Lee Keegan (Mayo)
6. Karl Lacey (Donegal)
7. Colm Boyle (Mayo)
8. David Moran (Kerry)
9. Neil Gallagher (Donegal)
10. Michael Murphy (Donegal)
11. Colm Cooper (Kerry)
12. Donnchadh Walsh (Kerry)
13. Conor McManus (Monaghan)
14. Andy Moran (Mayo)
15. Paul Geaney (Kerry)
Subs:
16. David Clarke (Mayo)
17. Colm Cavanagh (Tyrone)
18. Ryan McHugh (Donegal)
19. Paul Murphy (Kerry)
20. Colin Walshe (Monaghan)
21. Gary Brennan (Clare)
22. Aidan O'Shea (Mayo)
23. Peter Harte (Tyrone)
24. David Clifford (Kerry)
25. Michael Quinlivan (Tipperary)
26. James O'Donoghue (Kerry)" Blatantly leaving out players from the greatest gaelic football team ever to get a reaction out of Dublin fans? Yourself and the other boy Kingdomboy are the two biggest WUMS on here.
gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 26/07/2019 17:50:37
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My team
Cluxton
Johnny Cooper
Phillip Mcmahon
Keith Higgins
James McCarthy
Cian O'Sullivan
Jack McCaffrey
Brian Fenton
Sean Kavanagh
Ciaran Kilkenny
Colm cooper
Diarmuid connolly
Bernard Brogan
Michael Murphy
Paul Mannion
daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 26/07/2019 17:52:38
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Replying To gaelicgab: "Blatantly leaving out players from the greatest gaelic football team ever to get a reaction out of Dublin fans? Yourself and the other boy Kingdomboy are the two biggest WUMS on here." Pardon? I've taken into account players playing in big games as the away team. Kerry for example won the Munster Championship this year without any home game. There are lot of factors that need to be considered.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 26/07/2019 18:09:04
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Replying To gaelicgab: "Blatantly leaving out players from the greatest gaelic football team ever to get a reaction out of Dublin fans? Yourself and the other boy Kingdomboy are the two biggest WUMS on here." I don't think you should consider them representative of Kerry in general though in all fairness. There's plenty of decent folk who can be more honest in their opinions and don't do the aul online stuff. There the people who know a thing or two about Gaelic football let me assure you now my good man.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 26/07/2019 18:26:11
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Replying To gaelicgab: "Blatantly leaving out players from the greatest gaelic football team ever to get a reaction out of Dublin fans? Yourself and the other boy Kingdomboy are the two biggest WUMS on here." I don't think you should consider them representative of Kerry in general though in all fairness. There's plenty of decent folk who can be more honest in their opinions and don't do the aul online stuff. There the people who know a thing or two about Gaelic football let me assure you now my good man.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 26/07/2019 18:26:11
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Replying To gaelicgab: "Blatantly leaving out players from the greatest gaelic football team ever to get a reaction out of Dublin fans? Yourself and the other boy Kingdomboy are the two biggest WUMS on here." Forums are just places for people to post their opinions, don't get so worked up.
If you don't agree and you want to make a counter argument then do so and if you don't then fair enough, but don't take it so personal .
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 26/07/2019 18:32:01
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gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 26/07/2019 19:04:31
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