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Donegal V Cavan. Ulster Final. 2019-

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Replying To Donegalman: "Bookies have us red hot favs at 3/1 on and Cavan 3/1." Bookies aren't always right, rem the Dublin game in 2014, according to the bookies we hadn't a snowballs chance in hell, if there is any bookie giving 3/1 on Donegal I might have a few quid on that though. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2748 - 12/06/2019 18:48:40 2194082 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Bookies aren't always right, rem the Dublin game in 2014, according to the bookies we hadn't a snowballs chance in hell, if there is any bookie giving 3/1 on Donegal I might have a few quid on that though." That may be so but I am responding to your assumption that we are marginal favorites, which we are not - not by a long way. That's officially so according to the bookies and not hearsay. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 12/06/2019 22:58:46 2194198 Link
Cavan done really well to get this far which is long overdue given the underage success. Mickey Graham is obviously a really good manager and brought a togetherness. I am sure there will be a huge Cavan support at the game and I expect a much more competitive game than last years final. In Killian Clarke, McKiernan, McVeety, Reilly and Moynagh to name a few Cavan have some quality. However I think Donegal will just have too much fire power. While Tyrone got alot wrong at the weekend Donegal still did play some great attacking football. As seen against Fermanagh they can play the patient game, against Tyrone more counter attacking while in last years championship very attacking. Donegal can play it a few ways and the sounds from the camp are that complacency won't be a problem. So while I think Cavan will put up a decent showing think it will be Donegal by 4 +. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 12/06/2019 23:41:57 2194214 Link
Having rewatched Cavans games they look really impressive and clinical. Will be a big ask to keep mc veety and co quiet. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1142 - 15/06/2019 16:37:51 2195295 Link
The closer were getting I just cant see anything other than a comfortable Donegal victory. Had predicted a 2 point Donegal win but I wouldn't be surprised at a 6-7 point win. Starting Line up for Donegal S Patton P McGrath, N McGee, S McMenamin, R McHugh, P Brennan, E Gallagher, H McFadden, J McGee, O Gallen, L McLoone, C Thompson, P McBrearty, M Murphy, J Brennan Antifa (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 17/06/2019 13:36:42 2196483 Link
Donegal by 5. Can't see Cavan being able to handle it. OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 17/06/2019 13:53:42 2196497 Link
Replying To OGarmaile: "Donegal by 5. Can't see Cavan being able to handle it." you mean you hope so...if anything to make tyrone look a wee bit better. BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 17/06/2019 14:26:22 2196528 Link
Replying To BeJasus: "you mean you hope so...if anything to make tyrone look a wee bit better." False charm, he wants us to lose and then will be on here hammering us if we do lol Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 17/06/2019 15:24:57 2196569 Link
29k sell out. Pity they didn't get that 38k stadium in Belfast sorted this would have filled that. It's a shame what's going on up north. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 17/06/2019 22:11:16 2196824 Link
Replying To Jack_Goff: "29k sell out. Pity they didn't get that 38k stadium in Belfast sorted this would have filled that. It's a shame what's going on up north." Clones had a capacity of 36,000 up until this year. Which leads to the questions, who conducted this Health and Safety review, was it at the request of the Ulster Council, are the flaws easily rectified etc. Personally I believe the deficiencies are not the stand or terraces, but around the provision of female toilets, and with a small investment could easily be rectified. The real answer is that the GAA won't be able to attract concerts in Clones. SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 585 - 17/06/2019 23:12:56 2196865 Link
Replying To Jack_Goff: "29k sell out. Pity they didn't get that 38k stadium in Belfast sorted this would have filled that. It's a shame what's going on up north." It's a shame for Antrim yes but a blessing fur the rest. The longer the Ulster Finals are in Clones the better!! Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 17/06/2019 23:46:00 2196873 Link
Replying To SouthOfTheGap: "Clones had a capacity of 36,000 up until this year. Which leads to the questions, who conducted this Health and Safety review, was it at the request of the Ulster Council, are the flaws easily rectified etc. Personally I believe the deficiencies are not the stand or terraces, but around the provision of female toilets, and with a small investment could easily be rectified. The real answer is that the GAA won't be able to attract concerts in Clones." Yep, valid questions. I hear actual capacity is around 34,500 though, so it's down by 5k to 29,500. 36k capacity keeps being bandied about, but I don't think it's ever been at this recently. Hope these H&S issues can be rectified as you'd want a full capacity Clones for the future. It's a great ground, the iconic Ulster championship ground, but looking at it a number of times this year, it definitely needs upgrade work. It is starting to get dated, and better to do works now that wait too long for other issues to crop up and have its capacity reduced further. Ulster have had many big games at it over the years, they'll need to sort it out someway as they owe the ground at this point, it has made them plenty of money. Casement is another conversation altogether and we're quite a bit away from that being sorted. Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 18/06/2019 10:40:26 2196979 Link
Replying To BeJasus: "you mean you hope so...if anything to make tyrone look a wee bit better." Can't argue with that but no, I genuinely think this will be a procession for Donegal. OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 18/06/2019 12:21:11 2197042 Link
If Casement gets sorted in the next 15 years I'd be surprised. Upgrade Clones now so it's up to standard, it's a great spot and the walk through the town is magic on Ulster Final day. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 18/06/2019 13:00:15 2197070 Link
The question has to be asked why is the capacity reduced this year. What has changed from the previous number of years that has made the venue unsafe? Were supporters put at risk previous years by allowing a full capacity? In any case, the 'stadium' if you can call it that is a disgrace. It's like going through a time machine every visit there. Zero amenities. As much as I enjoy the occasion of an Ulster final, I really hope Casement can get built so we have a modern stadium to enjoy. Imagine the atmosphere coming from the standing area behind the goals in the new Casement with a proper roof all around the stadium to keep the noise in, add to that the other stands are right on top of the pitch. It will be like nothing any other GAA stadium can provide. Antifa (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 18/06/2019 15:52:51 2197153 Link
Completely agree with you. There is nowhere else like the town itself on Ulster final day. St Tiernachs Park was being earmarked for a €30 million investment way back in 2006 which would have seen huge upgrades and capacity increased to 45 - 50 thousand. This was at the time when games were moved to Croke Park with 60,000 attending. Now is the time to put some proper investment into Clones. Casement Park is a shambles, who knows how long it will be left to sit. The main Gerry Arther stand at Clones could easily be expanded by a few thousand with far better facilities. The old 2 story dressing room building in the corner between the Pat McGrane stand/Hill and the O Duffy terrace looks awful and needs to be tossed. The Pat McGrane and Hill would expand naturally out of this along with the addition of extra toilet facilities, etc. Then facilities upgraded behind the Eastern Stand and the Hill. It wouldn't be the biggest of undertakings to see these improvements made. HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 18/06/2019 15:53:03 2197154 Link
Obviously I completely agreed with JoeSoap and not Antifa!! HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 18/06/2019 16:03:20 2197160 Link
Replying To Antifa: "The question has to be asked why is the capacity reduced this year. What has changed from the previous number of years that has made the venue unsafe? Were supporters put at risk previous years by allowing a full capacity? In any case, the 'stadium' if you can call it that is a disgrace. It's like going through a time machine every visit there. Zero amenities. As much as I enjoy the occasion of an Ulster final, I really hope Casement can get built so we have a modern stadium to enjoy. Imagine the atmosphere coming from the standing area behind the goals in the new Casement with a proper roof all around the stadium to keep the noise in, add to that the other stands are right on top of the pitch. It will be like nothing any other GAA stadium can provide." Almost every ground sees their capacity fluctuate year on year, the H&S goalposts keep changing, Semple Stadium, Gaelic Grounds, Pearse Stadium, Fitzgerald Stadium all have seen their capacities despite having recent work done, it's a bit of a farce to be honest, I've never known the listed capacity of Clones to be below 30K and this after €300K was spent upgrading part of the stand!!! Time Ulster Council forgot about Casement as their premier stadium and let those in Stormont shove it, redevelop Casement into a modern 20K capacity ground that could still hold neutral games and spend big on St Tierneach's and maintain it as the premier ground, too much time has been wasted on Casement already. Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 18/06/2019 16:37:16 2197174 Link
Replying To OGarmaile: "Donegal by 5. Can't see Cavan being able to handle it." Think you're right there, I don't think we have a snowballs chance, Donegal look a serious outfit, its a huge step up for our lads. We beat a Monaghan team past their peak and Armagh are like ourselves feeding off scraps. Who will Donegal meet in their first Super 8 game ? facer4home (Cavan) - Posts: 157 - 18/06/2019 16:40:06 2197177 Link
Replying To facer4home: "Think you're right there, I don't think we have a snowballs chance, Donegal look a serious outfit, its a huge step up for our lads. We beat a Monaghan team past their peak and Armagh are like ourselves feeding off scraps. Who will Donegal meet in their first Super 8 game ?" Yea are we foolish enough to believe that. Our lads have one game in mind and that's next Sunday. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 18/06/2019 17:03:01 2197192 Link