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I dont think it is a donegal win on paper. They are a good and strong outfit but cavan arent miles off the pace. They were unlucky in a good few games this year in the league and have demonstrated serious strength of character in getting over Monaghan and armagh. Hope it's a classic and a breffni win. I like donegal also but be nice to say the guard change. tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 145 - 10/06/2019 13:38:23 2192878 Link 0 |
Really looking forward to this one, 1983 was my first Cavan Ulster Final at 11 years old and of course at that time I thought Cavan would be there or thereabouts for ever, fast forward to 2019 and I'm 47 now having seen Cavan in a total of 4 Ulster Finals and only one victory that magic day in 1997. cavandub (Cavan) - Posts: 67 - 10/06/2019 13:43:52 2192887 Link 2 |
This year is like a nightmare.... Cavan in an ulster final .....puke...but good luck to them cos they gonna need it. Do I think Cavan will win it, NO. Taking my anti-Cavan views out of it I think this will be like the club semi final for Micky Graham. Cavan at the moment think they are Dublin and unfortunately for them they won't win another game this year. Logic being Cavan beat a Monaghan team in the first half(dubious penalty aside). 2nd half it was a different game. Micky graham has a huge choice to make....does he keep playing the same way against Donegal when it won't work or does he fall back into defensive mode where it still won't work. Take a look at how easy Armagh got through their defense at times and likewise Cavan through Armagh's. Yes it's great putting up big scores but they easily could have conceded 3 goals.It takes both an offensive and defensive performance to win games from here on in and Cavan either have one or the other....not both. If Micky and Cavan do win it then it will be the performance of the year but it gonna take something completely different.On Donegal I was shocked at how good they were....I had totally wrote them off against Tyrone. FarneyLenny (Monaghan) - Posts: 110 - 10/06/2019 13:44:58 2192889 Link 0 |
I am not going to play up or down our chances. The bookies have us at red hot favourites at 3/1 on, while cavan are 3/1 against. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 10/06/2019 14:45:55 2192941 Link 0 |
Jeez! I'd hate to hear your opinion with your anti-Cavan view not taken out of the equation!
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 10/06/2019 14:49:54 2192945 Link 3 |
I'm absolutely loving the bitterness from the Monaghan fans lately. Loving every bit of it. The Cavan game has laid bare the cold hard reality of a team in decline, and the anti football approach ye took against Fermanagh confirmed it. A team bereft of ideas, devoid of quality replacements for key players and a golden era coming to an end. Keep writing us off, I love it! Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 10/06/2019 14:54:45 2192951 Link 2 |
Lol
FarneyLenny (Monaghan) - Posts: 110 - 10/06/2019 15:01:30 2192958 Link 1 |
Anti football approach indeed. Did you see the Fermanagh v Donegal game? It was about as good for entertainment as our game. When faced with that type of performance v Fermanagh there is little else to do. Some people may be bitter toward Cavan but most not so overly so. To be honest I think your assessment says more about the insecurity you might have worrying about what Monaghan are doing rather than enjoying the best Cavan campaign in 18 years. You have beat a misfiring Monaghan (or one in decline as you say) and took two goes to beat a decent but not amazing Armagh. I'll be very impressed if you beat Donegal other than that its decent but not amazing from Cavan. Nice to watch but I think its short of the quality to win Ulster. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 10/06/2019 15:16:29 2192972 Link 0 |
8th Ulster Final in 9 years for Donegal. Truly unprecedented for Donegal football and hopefully we can bring a 5th title of the decade back to the hills. It's easy to take these days for granted but they wont last forever and I'm savoring every minute of it. It took over 100 years to win our first 5 Ulster championships and we now have to opportunity to seal another 5 within 9 years, remarkable. In terms of the match its self I think it has to potential to be thriller. I think Donegal's powerful running game will get the goals to make a difference. Donegal 2:14 Cavan: 18 Antifa (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 10/06/2019 15:22:12 2192980 Link 0 |
However, having watched yous against ourselves and then against Fermanagh yesterday, it's patently clear yous are in decline. A poster on your own forum expressed his support for Cavan and his desire to see us win Ulster, and he was immediately followed by a slew of red thumbs. It shows the mentality of some of the Monaghan support. Some simply can't stomach the sight of a resurgent Cavan. And that's what rivalry is all about, I genuinely wouldn't have it any other way.
Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 10/06/2019 15:25:29 2192984 Link 0 |
Cavan are a serious team with a good manager. This Donegal team is at another level. Unless a red card or 3 Cavan goals I can see Donegal winning by double digits, with no disrespect. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1142 - 10/06/2019 15:42:45 2192996 Link 0 |
wouldn't have it any other way as right!! no one on here should get too worked up or insulted by who their neighbours support. thats what makes the rivalry so special!! at the game yesterday i was standing with monaghan people who were delighted with cavan winning. so its not exclusive.
theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 10/06/2019 15:46:01 2192999 Link 0 |
Well yeah...I didnt red thumb that but I dont particularly hope to see Cavan win it. Plenty of people from Monaghan around Latton, Corduff, Rockcurry, Magheracloone and Currin will have an extra dislike having to listen to ye on a daily basis. It will make little difference to me. Additionally, I don't think its something I have to worry about. I think its a grand Cavan team but Donegal are better almost on every front. There is always a chance Donegal don't play as well as they can and Cavan are flying but honestly I think ye will fall short by 2-3 points. It would be a very quick decline for Monaghan from All Ireland semi finals in 2018 and maintaining league 1 status for 2020. These things usually come gradually. I saw nothing from yesterday that I didnt expect from Monaghan considering Fermanagh and how they play. If we whimper out to Armagh on Saturday then I would say you're right otherwise.... Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 10/06/2019 15:56:33 2193010 Link 0 |
Ned, bit of a reality check. Cavan beat a Monaghan team that was decimated by injuries and took 160 minutes to beat Armagh who are managed by a guy who has 1 championship win to his name x 2 counties.Its a bit early to be dropping in here blowing....as they say if this Cavan team manage to harrow all that this Monaghan team have ploughed then you can blow all you want.
FarneyLenny (Monaghan) - Posts: 110 - 10/06/2019 16:44:13 2193042 Link 0 |
Delighted to be in an Ulster final and against Donegal especially. As much as this Cavan team have improved I feel this might be a step too far for this team yet. From watching the Tyrone game on Saturday you'd have to get the feeling Tyrone were way under par with their performance but Donegal to their credit put on a master class, there's not many players you could say had a bad game for them. westcavankid (Cavan) - Posts: 83 - 10/06/2019 16:45:41 2193043 Link 0 |
I feel the same way, we reached the Ulster final in 1995 under McHugh got well beaten and won Ulster two years later. We are making progress under Graham and I just want to see the boys give it a lash. As somebody mentioned including 2019 Donegal have now made 8 of the last 9 finals so they're vastly more experienced when it comes to the final day itself.
cavandub (Cavan) - Posts: 67 - 10/06/2019 16:56:52 2193061 Link 0 |
If Donegal play the way they played in the first half against Tyrone then they will win & win well. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 10/06/2019 17:34:16 2193090 Link 0 |
Monaghan lads, yous are falling for every word said on here as if its a knife in the side...Jee lads chill pill. Someone said above that Cavan think they are Dublin, no we don't. We are realistic but at the same time we have two championship wins and are in an ulster final. We will be up against it, but by god we will have a good crack at it. We are enjoying our wins and if you want to try to pour water over it then fine.. As for the ploughed fields and harrows, you can keep that stoney grey soil. ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 540 - 10/06/2019 17:49:49 2193094 Link 0 |
It drives them mad to see Cavan on the rise. Sure, some of their fans wish us well, but in my own experience most of them would rather anyone but Cavan.
Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 10/06/2019 18:29:01 2193115 Link 0 |
Remember leaving Clones after the semi in 2013 deflated but slightly relieved we didn't have to face the AI champions in the final. Fully expected Monaghan to not keep it kicked out. Was at the final and the intensity Monaghan brought was off the scale. Donegal couldn't get going and were wiped off the field. Was a shock to me anyway. There's always a chance. There'll be a tendency for us to talk ourselves down going into this which is natural but there's a bit of an attitude about this Cavan team that has been missing for a while. I'll remain pessimistic but doubt the players will and really hope Mickey comes up with a master stroke for the final. But to win I think we need goals. Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 10/06/2019 18:46:15 2193125 Link 0 |