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Meath V Dublin Leinster Final.

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Replying To endgame:  "Some of Meath's defensive play was very good.Teams will concede a lot more against Dublin than Meath did .The problem for Meath today was that their forwards were shocking. 4 points scored in 77 minutes iof football says it all.They didn't even have a player to kick a free over the bar,"
That's the most surprising thing. Majority of those today that couldn't hit a barn were shooting the lights out in ballybofey, Ennis navan cork Croke park 3 times , portlaoise. So what went wrong ???? I honestly don't know. Lot of them weren't even under undue pressure . That has to be Andy's number one priority, not seeing what happened, but rather making sure it never happens again

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15980 - 23/06/2019 21:31:53    2199434

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Replying To Belclare:  "My initial response was to a Mayo poster who was slagging Meath about kicking wides.."
Fair enough if that was your motivation, but since when have you become an apologist for Meath. I would have thought royaldunne has that job pretty much covered. Why bring up Mayo wides in a thread that is devoted to Dublin and Meath when it has no relevance to said thread. Also why are you so quick to respond to something that has nothing to do with your own county, or is it a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". And finally Maroondiesel, the so called "Mayo poster", is from Galway and makes no secret of the fact.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1048 - 23/06/2019 21:34:48    2199438

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Replying To Joxer:  "Are you planning on signing Dermot Connolly with that money? Meath is a single code county, has a comparatively large population which is increasing and within close proximity of the capital so no training or emigration issues and has a mighty football tradition. 4 points against a backfiring Dublin in a Leinster Final was just tragic. You could waste €1.5bn on that Meath setup and I still think they'd get whipped. If you have no tactics, no heart and can't take points from 15-20 yards out then you're not going to win the community games never mind a Delaney Cup. What are they doing in that fantastic facility, holding bingo nights? That was simply awful from Meath and Dublin were very poor in that first half. Not too sure where the Royal go from here but nobody will fear that."
The fruits of the GAA investment. None of these meath players came up through a development system funded by millions. We just won the christy ring so we are indeed a duel county but again it's very hard to grow hurling in the county without the money.

Hurling participation in Dublin increased 98% since you started getting the underage millions. So why couldn't you do that before? Money helps and we need it more then you.

A good meath will bring in millions extra in ticket sales. Matches like today's would be packed. So the investment wouldn't go to waste.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2844 - 23/06/2019 21:35:19    2199439

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Anyway I'm off the drown my sorrows:( for the night, won't take much one pint I'd say as I haven't had a drink in 4 years .again well done to Dublin.
Hard luck to our lads. We have had a fantastic year so far, today we will forget about once we get into super 8s.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15980 - 23/06/2019 21:37:25    2199443

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Replying To Daith:  "I think a rule needs to be brought in that of you kick 9 scores or less against any opposition you get kicked out of the championship and the qualifiers.

Meath turning up to a Leinster final to kick 4 points in 75 minutes is a sad day for football."
I think a more valid rule is that once the attacking team gets into the opposing teams 45 they can't pass it back over the 45 or it's a free out. Meath forwards were like rugby league players at times today passing across the field and getting nowhere

Thelonesomegoose (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 23/06/2019 21:45:52    2199449

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Replying To Joxer:  "You must be 6 years old. You do realise that counties were much less well off than Dublin in the 90s and 00s. Oh and it may have struck you that Dublin is the capital, a quarter of the population lives there. It has always been the population centre. Peope just didn't appear on trees in the last 10 years.

Whingers logic...
- Dublin couldn't have gotten their act together in 2011 due to great organisation, hard work and shrewd appointments. It must have been all money
- Dublin have a large population. How can this be fair when every other county has exactly the same population and there is no disparity between them?
- money wins you Sam Maguire. It can't be explained by great grassroots work and organisation. The Brogans, Connollys, Cluxtons of this world were all manufactured when they were 8 and 9 back in 1996 when the GAA were throwing billions at Dublin. Oh wait!
- Dublin couldn't have just put together a golden generation of players. I mean it's not possible. It has to be the money and the population. I mean, doesn't it. You need 1.6m to find 20 decent players. Ask Kerry. Oh wait!
- our poor performance is all down to Dublin's money and population. I mean it's nothing to do with us. Dublin are great in Leinster so that explains why we're crap in Ulster, doesn't it?"
Ehmm- I think you might have just proven all five points there in one go.... well done you

GerryD (Monaghan) - Posts: 309 - 23/06/2019 21:50:02    2199451

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Monaghan fan logic.

- Book foreign holiday for July/Aug."
Ha ha! I hear ya bud...already on it

GerryD (Monaghan) - Posts: 309 - 23/06/2019 21:53:58    2199454

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Replying To LobinstownMan:  "Can't imagine the Cork gig appealing to him at all"
Spoken like a true Royal

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 1774 - 23/06/2019 21:56:03    2199456

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "The fruits of the GAA investment. None of these meath players came up through a development system funded by millions. We just won the christy ring so we are indeed a duel county but again it's very hard to grow hurling in the county without the money.

Hurling participation in Dublin increased 98% since you started getting the underage millions. So why couldn't you do that before? Money helps and we need it more then you.

A good meath will bring in millions extra in ticket sales. Matches like today's would be packed. So the investment wouldn't go to waste."
Aha. Now I know you're joking. The backbone of this Dublin team panel, 11 players from 2011, were developing in the mid to late 90s. Are you saying that millions from the GAA was funding this back then? You're having a laugh lad. A sad excuse for your own county's mismanagement. Louth put up a much better fight and let's not talk about Meath's population and financial advantages over Louth.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 3952 - 23/06/2019 21:58:02    2199460

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Difficult day for Meath and their supporters but hopefully they will get a bit of luck in the draw tomorrow morning and get a chance to get back on track again. The thing that surprised me most in the game was the difference in physique between the two teams Meath created a lot of chances but the 4 point return was a shocker (Is this the lowest score in a provincial final in a 70 minute game?)

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1581 - 23/06/2019 22:04:46    2199469

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Wides, wides, wides oh my Lord the shooting today was awful and it's not the first time this has happened, the second half v Kildare in the league has an equal amount of wastefulness in front of goal from very scoreable chances and other games I can recall this too. We could have left that game today with an awful lot more respectability if we had even converted 50% of the very scoreable chances we had, it sucked the life and the confidence out of us and was so very very frustrating. Missing chances like that is criminal against any opposition but highlighted more when playing a team like this Dublin team who will eventually tear you asunder when you miss so many opportunities like we did. The record will show we lost the 2019 Leinster Final by 16 points and that is all people will look at and at the end of the day it's the scoreboard that matters but we should have had so much more on that scoreboard, to work so hard to create those chances against a team like Dublin but to see the end product finished so badly crushed us but I still say all is not lost, Meath's All Ireland is in two weeks in round 4 of the qualifiers, if we can pick up the pieces from today and get some much needed scoring practice in and mentally get our shot selection and kicking right we can still make the Super 8's which no matter how that might go would lead to three crucially important games from which to gain valuable experience of the level we need to get too. It's very important that Meath don't let today be the most noteworthy story of 2019 given what they have achieved this year in gaining promotion and reaching a Leinster Final, what we do in the next match will give a better indication of where we are physically and mentally and as I say is really our All Ireland Final.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3450 - 23/06/2019 22:06:43    2199471

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Replying To ballydalane:  "It's always Leitrim brought up in these debates. Even in the "good ol' days", Leitrim were never, ever, ever, in a million years, expected to compete with Dublin (or Kerry, or Meath, or Cork, or Mayo....). Yet they're always used in these debates as an example of Dublin's demographic and financial dominance!"
Leitrim were very competitive in Connacht in the mid to late nineties, they even beat mayo in a provincial final in 1994. Easily known you don't have a clue about football coming from Kilkenny.

qwerty368 (Kildare) - Posts: 66 - 23/06/2019 22:10:44    2199473

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Shameful performance from Meath. Despite Dublin's vast superiority the referee still felt it necessary to give them a helping hand. How was Fenton not black carded for the professional foul which prevented a certain goal? Such a scandalous decision and the match wasn't quite over at that point.

qwerty368 (Kildare) - Posts: 66 - 23/06/2019 22:13:35    2199475

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"These things go in cycles and I'm quite sure with the obvious improvement that's coming in both Kildare & Meath that Leinster will come back in time to be competitive".
A recent quote of the Uachtaran, head of the Association.
Not sure how things are going to improve when people at the top of the Association are that deluded to the reality of the situation, especially after today's display.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 803 - 23/06/2019 22:13:44    2199476

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "The fruits of the GAA investment. None of these meath players came up through a development system funded by millions. We just won the christy ring so we are indeed a duel county but again it's very hard to grow hurling in the county without the money.

Hurling participation in Dublin increased 98% since you started getting the underage millions. So why couldn't you do that before? Money helps and we need it more then you.

A good meath will bring in millions extra in ticket sales. Matches like today's would be packed. So the investment wouldn't go to waste."
Aha. Now I know you're joking. The backbone of this Dublin team panel, 11 players from 2011, were developing in the mid to late 90s. Are you saying that millions from the GAA was funding this back then? You're having a laugh lad. A sad excuse for your own county's mismanagement. Louth put up a much better fight and let's not talk about Meath's population and financial advantages over Louth.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 3952 - 23/06/2019 22:17:32    2199481

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Replying To GerryD:  "Dublin fan logic...
- it's not about the money
- it's not our fault we have a large population
- Leitrim should use their pitiful playing and financial resources to challenge us
- let's laugh and gloat at those less financially fortunate than us"
You must be 6 years old. You do realise that counties were much less well off than Dublin in the 90s and 00s. Oh and it may have struck you that Dublin is the capital, a quarter of the population lives there. It has always been the population centre. Peope just didn't appear on trees in the last 10 years.

Whingers logic...
- Dublin couldn't have gotten their act together in 2011 due to great organisation, hard work and shrewd appointments. It must have been all money
- Dublin have a large population. How can this be fair when every other county has exactly the same population and there is no disparity between them?
- money wins you Sam Maguire. It can't be explained by great grassroots work and organisation. The Brogans, Connollys, Cluxtons of this world were all manufactured when they were 8 and 9 back in 1996 when the GAA were throwing billions at Dublin. Oh wait!
- Dublin couldn't have just put together a golden generation of players. I mean it's not possible. It has to be the money and the population. I mean, doesn't it. You need 1.6m to find 20 decent players. Ask Kerry. Oh wait!
- our poor performance is all down to Dublin's money and population. I mean it's nothing to do with us. Dublin are great in Leinster so that explains why we're crap in Ulster, doesn't it?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 3952 - 23/06/2019 22:17:54    2199482

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Replying To ballydalane:  "It's always Leitrim brought up in these debates. Even in the "good ol' days", Leitrim were never, ever, ever, in a million years, expected to compete with Dublin (or Kerry, or Meath, or Cork, or Mayo....). Yet they're always used in these debates as an example of Dublin's demographic and financial dominance!"
We actually beat Dublin, Meath and Mayo in competitive games in the early to mid 90s be it league or championship so you'd want to recheck that post.
And now as always we are in a position we have to have church gate collections and the goodwill of the Leitrim diaspora around the world to keep the county teams going because the funds aren't arriving from Croke Park like they do to Dublin GAA

Thelonesomegoose (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 23/06/2019 22:29:53    2199489

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Replying To royaldunne:  "That's the most surprising thing. Majority of those today that couldn't hit a barn were shooting the lights out in ballybofey, Ennis navan cork Croke park 3 times , portlaoise. So what went wrong ???? I honestly don't know. Lot of them weren't even under undue pressure . That has to be Andy's number one priority, not seeing what happened, but rather making sure it never happens again"
You nearly beat us twice in the league though, so at least there's always that to fall back on..

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 788 - 23/06/2019 22:31:22    2199490

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "The fruits of the GAA investment. None of these meath players came up through a development system funded by millions. We just won the christy ring so we are indeed a duel county but again it's very hard to grow hurling in the county without the money.

Hurling participation in Dublin increased 98% since you started getting the underage millions. So why couldn't you do that before? Money helps and we need it more then you.

A good meath will bring in millions extra in ticket sales. Matches like today's would be packed. So the investment wouldn't go to waste."
Meath is not a dual county.

Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 136 - 23/06/2019 22:34:56    2199495

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Make no difference to end result but ref seemed very lenient to Dublin: roughly same amount of frees conceded by both teams but Dublin got no cards and we got 6/7. I think Dublin are just cuter at fouling but refs should be wiser to it. Underdogs need all the help they can get!

gwanyagudthing (Meath) - Posts: 81 - 23/06/2019 22:35:58    2199496

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