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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Meath defeated Dublin 4 times in recent years at minor. These are the results

2016 Meath 1 - 18 Dublin 2 - 5 Meath won leinster Minor ( U18) semi final
2017 Meath beat Dublin by 2 point Leinster Minor ( U17) First Round
2017 Meath 3 - 12 Dublin 1 - 13 Meath won leinster Minor ( U17) Final
2018 Meath 1 - 13 Dubin 2- 8 Meath won leinster Minor ( U17) First Round

So Meath did beat Dublin 4 times in leinster minor championship recently, culminating in winning leinster minor championship last year when we done two in a row at the new minor grade age of under 17. We should have beaten Dublin at minor in last few years also when Colm Coyle was manager and we were 9 points up at half time v Dublin. And lost the game in extra time by a point. Meath are more then match for Dublin at minor .

But overall compared to 5 or 6 years ago leinster championship at minor and under 21 and under 20 is really competitive. This year u had strong Kildare Meath Dublin and Westmeath teams at minor and Meath kildare and Dublin have strong teams at under 20. 5 or 6 years ago Dublin were wiping the dloor with Meath and rest of leinster at under 21 and minor ( kildare won 2 under 21 leinster titles only team have competive team in that era v Dubs at under 21 ). And the minor championship in leinster was very uncompetitve for yrars5. Outside Dublin no leinster team has won a minor all ireland in 15 years and no leinster team outside Dublin other then Meath in 2012 have reached the All Ireland minor final in 15 years.

So for ten years Dublin were dominate at underage. That has changed with kildare hammering Dublin last year at under 20 level and Meath 4 victories at minor level v Dublin. If this continues it will make an impact at senior. Roscommon and Cavan had underage sucess , Roscommon have won 2 Senior Connacht titles in 3 years and being in last 4 senior Connacht finals in a row first time since 70s. Cavan are in first Ulster senior final in 18 years. Both counties won I think 5 in a row under 21 provicial titles in recent years. Galway Clare and limericks sucess at senior hurling is based on underage sucess . Meath and kildare have upped their game at underage. This will continue. Wicklow and louth have also got more coachs and investmemt and dont be surprised to see Wicklow and louth winning minor leinster titles in the next decade. The minor and under 20 leinster championship is very competitive compared to a few years ago..And the gap has closed with Dublin. In many cases teams have overtaken Dublin at underage

If u talk to people who work at underage football in Dublin they will tell u the talent they were producing 4 or 5 years ago eg Callaghan is not as strong. For example in Meath from the ages 17 to 20 we have a group of very talented exciting young forwards that would be better forwards then Dublin have at that age group. Meath always produced better natural forwards then Dublin the exception is this decade. But Meath had better forwards then Dublin in 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s and even the 00s. Players like James Conlon and Dara Campion are the first of wave of talented young Meath forwards coming thru. Its hard to know with young lads. But compared to 5 or 6 years things are looking up at underage for many in leinster outside Dublin.


And the good news for Meath this years under 20 team is made up of last years leinster Minor winning and 2017 leinster minor under 17 champions. We should be very strong at under 20 this. But u never know with young lads and many a strong underage team failed to deliver. Hopefully that is not the case this year."
Your wrong here a chara.

Dublin beat Meath 1.15 to 1.13 after extra time, in the Neller. Leinster first round. Link:

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/minor-footballers-perform-miracle-comeback-to-defy-meath

Your also wrong Meath didn't win the 17 Minor, Dublin were minor Leinster champions in 2017. Meath were knocked by Loais.

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/dublin-too-good-for-louth-leinster-mfc-final/

We also beat you a few weeks ago.

My point being Meath minors haven't beaten Dublin four times in four years.

Infact Dublin have won 4 minor Leinster titles so far this decade in, 11, '12, '14, '17, I'll let people do the maths on Meath beating Dublin four times in four years.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 17/06/2019 22:13:52    2196828

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Your wrong here a chara.

Dublin beat Meath 1.15 to 1.13 after extra time, in the Neller. Leinster first round. Link:

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/minor-footballers-perform-miracle-comeback-to-defy-meath

Your also wrong Meath didn't win the 17 Minor, Dublin were minor Leinster champions in 2017. Meath were knocked by Loais.

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/dublin-too-good-for-louth-leinster-mfc-final/

We also beat you a few weeks ago.

My point being Meath minors haven't beaten Dublin four times in four years.

Infact Dublin have won 4 minor Leinster titles so far this decade in, 11, '12, '14, '17, I'll let people do the maths on Meath beating Dublin four times in four years."
Ur wrong

I have attended 6 Meath v Dublin minor matchs in the last few years. Ur getting mixed up. Meath won the inaugural Leinster minor ( U17 ) championship in 2017 beating Dublin in the leinster final. Meath then lost the All Ireland semi final to Tyrone. A Tyrone team led by a certain Daragh Cavanan, Peters Son. And that Tyrone team.won the All Ireland minor ( U17 ) title in 2017 beating Roscommon in the final in Croke Park before the Dublin v Tyrone All Ireland senior semi final played on 27th August 2017.

Meath have had 4 victories, Dublin 2 victories at minor I was at those 6 matchs. In Meaths 4 victories there was clear gulf in class between the teams with Meath winning by 9 points and 5 points in two of the other games respectively. Even the two games Dublin won , they were very close tight games , one was won in extra time . In the two games Meath lost , Meath looked like having better natural forwards but Dublin were just better organised drilled at the back. Thats why Meath were 10 ahead at the end of first half. Even this years game between both counties was a cracking contest, very little between teams but for a lucky Dublin goal which turned the game. But the lead changed 7 times and its game that cud have went eitheir way , Meath cud have won that game.

5 or 6 years ago there was a massive gap at underage between Meath and Dublin. That gap has closed completey at minor and hopefully these minors make an impact at under 20. If they dont serious questions need to be asked.

Anyway here are the 6 minor championship matchs that Meath and Dublin have played in recent years with 4 victories to Meath and 2 to Dublin.

(1) 2016 Meath 1 - 18 Dublin 2 - 5 Meath win leinster minor ( U18) semi final
(2) 2017 Meath 1 - 15 Dublin 1 - 10 Meath win leinster minor ( U17 ) First Round
( 3) 2017 Meath 3 - 12 Dublin 1 - 13 Meath win leinster minor ( U17 ) Final
(4) 2017 Dublin 1 - 15 Meath 1 - 13 Dublin win leinster minor ( U18 ) First Round
(5) 2018 Meath 1 - 13 Dublin 2 - 8 Meath win leinster minor ( U17 ) First Round
(6) 2019 Dublin 4 - 10 Meath 2 - 10 Dublin win leinster minor ( U17 ) First Round

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 17/06/2019 23:34:04    2196871

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Ur wrong

I have attended 6 Meath v Dublin minor matchs in the last few years. Ur getting mixed up. Meath won the inaugural Leinster minor ( U17 ) championship in 2017 beating Dublin in the leinster final. Meath then lost the All Ireland semi final to Tyrone. A Tyrone team led by a certain Daragh Cavanan, Peters Son. And that Tyrone team.won the All Ireland minor ( U17 ) title in 2017 beating Roscommon in the final in Croke Park before the Dublin v Tyrone All Ireland senior semi final played on 27th August 2017.

Meath have had 4 victories, Dublin 2 victories at minor I was at those 6 matchs. In Meaths 4 victories there was clear gulf in class between the teams with Meath winning by 9 points and 5 points in two of the other games respectively. Even the two games Dublin won , they were very close tight games , one was won in extra time . In the two games Meath lost , Meath looked like having better natural forwards but Dublin were just better organised drilled at the back. Thats why Meath were 10 ahead at the end of first half. Even this years game between both counties was a cracking contest, very little between teams but for a lucky Dublin goal which turned the game. But the lead changed 7 times and its game that cud have went eitheir way , Meath cud have won that game.

5 or 6 years ago there was a massive gap at underage between Meath and Dublin. That gap has closed completey at minor and hopefully these minors make an impact at under 20. If they dont serious questions need to be asked.

Anyway here are the 6 minor championship matchs that Meath and Dublin have played in recent years with 4 victories to Meath and 2 to Dublin.

(1) 2016 Meath 1 - 18 Dublin 2 - 5 Meath win leinster minor ( U18) semi final
(2) 2017 Meath 1 - 15 Dublin 1 - 10 Meath win leinster minor ( U17 ) First Round
( 3) 2017 Meath 3 - 12 Dublin 1 - 13 Meath win leinster minor ( U17 ) Final
(4) 2017 Dublin 1 - 15 Meath 1 - 13 Dublin win leinster minor ( U18 ) First Round
(5) 2018 Meath 1 - 13 Dublin 2 - 8 Meath win leinster minor ( U17 ) First Round
(6) 2019 Dublin 4 - 10 Meath 2 - 10 Dublin win leinster minor ( U17 ) First Round"
Dont know what to tell you mate, you are wrong, look at the articles i posted from 2017. Dublin beat Meath and are Leinster champions 2017.

Furlong i dont doubt that Meath have won some games against Dublin at junior level. You are being selective by offering the profile, of minor. yes Meath have beaten Dublin a minor in a couple of years.

But you are clearly being disingenuous to prove your innital point that junior games are minors ones that Neath are some kind of underage Juggernaut.

Ive actually posted the minor results, and the fact Dublin have won the minor Leinster in 2017, beating Meath in the first round, Meath were knocked back out be Laois. You have also posted a junior result form 2019, Dublin beat Meath at minor just a few wees ago and Meath were knocked out of the championship by the Westies who play at the weekend in Mullingar shortly afterwards.

fair enough Meah have beaten Dublin at some junior grades and a couple of times at minor in the last few years, but to say they have beaten Dublin four times at minor grade just simply isnt true.

Anyhow what i would say on Dublin at minor is by far our least successful grade. I really thin Meath, Kildare and other Leinster counties should be doing far better. There are a couple of reasons why Dublin dont so well at minor in my opinion. I think we take a bit of different approach, we usually use the whole panel often making six or seven changes for a game, the grade for us is about player development rather then really being competitive. I thnk we take U20 far more seriously competitively. the other thing about Dublin minors is that almost every year our best players are dual players. For example a rising star for us in Luke Swan this year at minor, he is a star before the footballers and hurlers and he is one of many in the panel. He is playing every three days at the moment and his load is being clearly minded, he is one of many on our current minior team. This seems to be case for a lot of our minor players.

I also believe Dublin shouldn't be as domininet in Leinster underage as they are, its not the same make up as a senior team were you have generation of players coming together, its one age group. Meath and Kildare in particular should have as good minors as Dublin in some particular year. Its only one year at U17.

Despite the angle of significant Meath success your trying to argue here, this deacde Dublin fave won 4 minor Leinsters in 11, '12, '14, '17 - that is not Meath beating Dublin 4 straight years at minor, junior and minor perhaps, ill clarify that, Meath have only ever won 11 leinster minors in their history, Dublin have won more then a third of that this decade (so far) ill take that. It hardly indicates the picture you are painting of Meath being any type of dominant force at underage, in fact the exact opposite. Dublin are dominating silverware in minor and U20 grade.

We are also dominating at U20/21 never mind Leinster but nationally, i would wholly acknowledge Kildare were one of the best teams though ive seen at that great ever, last year. Certainly the best team weve played.

Ha ha i wont swap our forwards for your and im not arguing the point a chara, as i have a feeling you have your finger on the trigger finger on a post that will take up a week of life responding to.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/06/2019 10:25:28    2196967

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Dont know what to tell you mate, you are wrong, look at the articles i posted from 2017. Dublin beat Meath and are Leinster champions 2017.

Furlong i dont doubt that Meath have won some games against Dublin at junior level. You are being selective by offering the profile, of minor. yes Meath have beaten Dublin a minor in a couple of years.

But you are clearly being disingenuous to prove your innital point that junior games are minors ones that Neath are some kind of underage Juggernaut.

Ive actually posted the minor results, and the fact Dublin have won the minor Leinster in 2017, beating Meath in the first round, Meath were knocked back out be Laois. You have also posted a junior result form 2019, Dublin beat Meath at minor just a few wees ago and Meath were knocked out of the championship by the Westies who play at the weekend in Mullingar shortly afterwards.

fair enough Meah have beaten Dublin at some junior grades and a couple of times at minor in the last few years, but to say they have beaten Dublin four times at minor grade just simply isnt true.

Anyhow what i would say on Dublin at minor is by far our least successful grade. I really thin Meath, Kildare and other Leinster counties should be doing far better. There are a couple of reasons why Dublin dont so well at minor in my opinion. I think we take a bit of different approach, we usually use the whole panel often making six or seven changes for a game, the grade for us is about player development rather then really being competitive. I thnk we take U20 far more seriously competitively. the other thing about Dublin minors is that almost every year our best players are dual players. For example a rising star for us in Luke Swan this year at minor, he is a star before the footballers and hurlers and he is one of many in the panel. He is playing every three days at the moment and his load is being clearly minded, he is one of many on our current minior team. This seems to be case for a lot of our minor players.

I also believe Dublin shouldn't be as domininet in Leinster underage as they are, its not the same make up as a senior team were you have generation of players coming together, its one age group. Meath and Kildare in particular should have as good minors as Dublin in some particular year. Its only one year at U17.

Despite the angle of significant Meath success your trying to argue here, this deacde Dublin fave won 4 minor Leinsters in 11, '12, '14, '17 - that is not Meath beating Dublin 4 straight years at minor, junior and minor perhaps, ill clarify that, Meath have only ever won 11 leinster minors in their history, Dublin have won more then a third of that this decade (so far) ill take that. It hardly indicates the picture you are painting of Meath being any type of dominant force at underage, in fact the exact opposite. Dublin are dominating silverware in minor and U20 grade.

We are also dominating at U20/21 never mind Leinster but nationally, i would wholly acknowledge Kildare were one of the best teams though ive seen at that great ever, last year. Certainly the best team weve played.

Ha ha i wont swap our forwards for your and im not arguing the point a chara, as i have a feeling you have your finger on the trigger finger on a post that will take up a week of life responding to."
Its very hard to have a conversation with someone who hasnt a grasp of the facts who doesnt know the facts. U r mxed up and also saying things I did not say. And ur last comment was way under the belt.

1 I dont know where u think I mentioned junior football. Not once did I reference a junior game of football. Not ONCE did I even mention the word junior. Because Meath havent play Dublin in junior football for years and Dublin dont enter a team in junior leinster championship in recent years.

2 U say I am trying to say that Meath are juggernaut at minor level compared to Dublin. This is what I said three times before and I will repeat Three times for u.

Dublin have wiped the floor with Meath at underage , minor under 21 for years. Its only in last 3 or 4 years Meath have got their act together at minor and had sucess.
Dublin have wiped the floor with Meath at underage, minor and under 21 for years, its only in the last 3 or 4 years Meaths have had sucess minor.
Dublin have wiped the floor with Meath at underage at minor and under 21 for years , its only in the last 3 or 4 years Meath had sucess at minor.
Now is that clear. I have said that 6 times here and above for ur attention.

3 U said I posted a junior result from 2019 , I didnt post any result from junior the result from 2019 is the result u mentioned above but u r so mixed up u cannot see this. And again I never once mentioned a junior match and once mentioned the word junior in any of my above posts. Ur just making stuff up.

4 Yes Dublin have more minor titles then Meath . Dublin would want to seen Dublin have ten times the population resources and money then Meath for 100 years. Dublin of course should be, being the capital and the most powerful county in Ireland. But Meaths is the second most sucessful county in leinster at minor in the whole provience. Remeber most teams are starved of minor All Ireland and provicial sucess. Kildare have never won an minor All Ireland title. Louth havent won leinster minor since 1953 , Offaly since 1989 , laois havent won leinster minor in 13 years Westmeath have 2 titles in 60 years.

And remember Dublin 8 where won before the 50s when u had more country lads playing for Dublin. Wicklow club winning All Ireland senior for Dublin , and senior Dublins teams full of kerry Mayo and country lads , feck all.Dublin lads winning All Irelands for Dublin up 1958.. So just as u can knock 15 senior All Irelands of Dublins total u can also knock 8 leinster minor titles .

Of course Meath have won more All Ireland minor titles then Dublin have in the last 35 years. Meath have 2 All Irelands minor titles in 1990 and 1992. Dublin have won 1 minor All Ireland title between between 1985 and 2018, in 33 years and that was in 2012. But probaly will disagree with this and say I was talking about a junior match.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 18/06/2019 12:23:00    2197043

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Time for Meath to announce themselves this weekend.
Time for talk is almost over.

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 18/06/2019 12:33:56    2197051

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Dont know what to tell you mate, you are wrong, look at the articles i posted from 2017. Dublin beat Meath and are Leinster champions 2017.

Furlong i dont doubt that Meath have won some games against Dublin at junior level. You are being selective by offering the profile, of minor. yes Meath have beaten Dublin a minor in a couple of years.

But you are clearly being disingenuous to prove your innital point that junior games are minors ones that Neath are some kind of underage Juggernaut.

Ive actually posted the minor results, and the fact Dublin have won the minor Leinster in 2017, beating Meath in the first round, Meath were knocked back out be Laois. You have also posted a junior result form 2019, Dublin beat Meath at minor just a few wees ago and Meath were knocked out of the championship by the Westies who play at the weekend in Mullingar shortly afterwards.

fair enough Meah have beaten Dublin at some junior grades and a couple of times at minor in the last few years, but to say they have beaten Dublin four times at minor grade just simply isnt true.

Anyhow what i would say on Dublin at minor is by far our least successful grade. I really thin Meath, Kildare and other Leinster counties should be doing far better. There are a couple of reasons why Dublin dont so well at minor in my opinion. I think we take a bit of different approach, we usually use the whole panel often making six or seven changes for a game, the grade for us is about player development rather then really being competitive. I thnk we take U20 far more seriously competitively. the other thing about Dublin minors is that almost every year our best players are dual players. For example a rising star for us in Luke Swan this year at minor, he is a star before the footballers and hurlers and he is one of many in the panel. He is playing every three days at the moment and his load is being clearly minded, he is one of many on our current minior team. This seems to be case for a lot of our minor players.

I also believe Dublin shouldn't be as domininet in Leinster underage as they are, its not the same make up as a senior team were you have generation of players coming together, its one age group. Meath and Kildare in particular should have as good minors as Dublin in some particular year. Its only one year at U17.

Despite the angle of significant Meath success your trying to argue here, this deacde Dublin fave won 4 minor Leinsters in 11, '12, '14, '17 - that is not Meath beating Dublin 4 straight years at minor, junior and minor perhaps, ill clarify that, Meath have only ever won 11 leinster minors in their history, Dublin have won more then a third of that this decade (so far) ill take that. It hardly indicates the picture you are painting of Meath being any type of dominant force at underage, in fact the exact opposite. Dublin are dominating silverware in minor and U20 grade.

We are also dominating at U20/21 never mind Leinster but nationally, i would wholly acknowledge Kildare were one of the best teams though ive seen at that great ever, last year. Certainly the best team weve played.

Ha ha i wont swap our forwards for your and im not arguing the point a chara, as i have a feeling you have your finger on the trigger finger on a post that will take up a week of life responding to."
I left this on its own because u have difficulties understanding this part.

In 2017 there was the minor under 18 All Ireland championship.
And there was a second All Ireland championship, the inaugural minor under 17 All Ireland championship.

There was two All Ireland championships in 2017 at the minor grade.

U had the traditional minor under 18 All Ireland championship in 2017 . Kerry were the winners.
The winners of Munster were kerry , the winners of Leinster were Dublin , the winners of Ulster were Derry and the winners of Connacht were Galway. The final.was held before senior final in September

Now please follow and take note there was also an inaugural All Ireland U17 , first minor All. Ireland championship at this grade. 32 counties involved in an All Ireland championship and the final.was played before Dublin v Tyrone All Ireland senior semi final in Croke Park. Not a junior final , Not A JUNIOR final..An Under 17 All Ireland championship , the first at this new grade at minor.

The winners of this second All Ireland championship in 2017, U17 All Ireland championship was Tryrone.
Meath won leinster , Kerry won Munster , Roscommon won Connacht, Tyrone won Ulster.
It widely reported and it was All Ireland title Tyrone won. And this years Under 20 players will.mostly come from those u17 teams..So Dublin Meath kildares Under, 20 most of their players will come from their Under 17 All Ireland championship teams of 2017.

So there was 2 All Irelands played in 2017 the only time this has happened for footballers at this age.

So 2 All Ireland championship, 2 Two All Ireland championships, deux All Irelands championships for footballers at this age group in 2017.

Again in summary
In 2017
1 There was U 18 minor All Ireland championship
and secondly there was
2 There was inaugural U17 minor All Ireland championship.

And from 2018 onwards minor became U17 , and there is one All Ireland championship for players around that age again.

U have not mentioned this inaugural under 17 All Ireland championship. U have mentioned the junior football which I never mentioned. But seen u havent mentioned this U17 All Ireland championship and I have now mentioned upteem times I would hope u can understand there was U17 and U18 All Ireland minor championship in 2017 , 2 All Ireland championship at those age group in 2017. 2 All Ireland championship in 1 year. Thats where u r mixed up. I will put later the documentary evidence with proper links to show these games. Thats all I can do show the facts show the evidence . Thats all. If u wouldn't accept the fact u cannot have a conversation with somone who wouldnt accept facts.

But please can u understand there was 2 All Ireland championship in 2017 one at U17 and the other at U18. Meath won 2 games v Dublin at U17 in 2017 ( because there is a round robin in leinster) and Dublin won 1 games v Meath at U18 in 2017.

Again there was two All Irelands in 2017 . Kerry won All Ireland U18 championship in September 2017. In the other separate minor All Ireland championship Tyrone won the inaugural All Ireland U17 championship in 2017.

Again just to make sure and again no mention of junior football ok no mention.

Two All Irelands in 2017 . One at Under 18 and second one at Under 17.

And in 2018 and 2019 minor All Ireland championship became U17 championship, but the inuagural championship was in 2017.

Again two All Irelands. U have made no mention of U17 inaugural minor All Ireland championship. This is where u r mixed up..I will put up links of the six games and their reports and u will see there is no mention of junior football. And that there was 6 games at minor ( U17 , U18 ) in the last 4 years and Meath had 4 victories and Dublin 2 victories. Fact.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 18/06/2019 12:55:06    2197065

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Dont know what to tell you mate, you are wrong, look at the articles i posted from 2017. Dublin beat Meath and are Leinster champions 2017.

Furlong i dont doubt that Meath have won some games against Dublin at junior level. You are being selective by offering the profile, of minor. yes Meath have beaten Dublin a minor in a couple of years.

But you are clearly being disingenuous to prove your innital point that junior games are minors ones that Neath are some kind of underage Juggernaut.

Ive actually posted the minor results, and the fact Dublin have won the minor Leinster in 2017, beating Meath in the first round, Meath were knocked back out be Laois. You have also posted a junior result form 2019, Dublin beat Meath at minor just a few wees ago and Meath were knocked out of the championship by the Westies who play at the weekend in Mullingar shortly afterwards.

fair enough Meah have beaten Dublin at some junior grades and a couple of times at minor in the last few years, but to say they have beaten Dublin four times at minor grade just simply isnt true.

Anyhow what i would say on Dublin at minor is by far our least successful grade. I really thin Meath, Kildare and other Leinster counties should be doing far better. There are a couple of reasons why Dublin dont so well at minor in my opinion. I think we take a bit of different approach, we usually use the whole panel often making six or seven changes for a game, the grade for us is about player development rather then really being competitive. I thnk we take U20 far more seriously competitively. the other thing about Dublin minors is that almost every year our best players are dual players. For example a rising star for us in Luke Swan this year at minor, he is a star before the footballers and hurlers and he is one of many in the panel. He is playing every three days at the moment and his load is being clearly minded, he is one of many on our current minior team. This seems to be case for a lot of our minor players.

I also believe Dublin shouldn't be as domininet in Leinster underage as they are, its not the same make up as a senior team were you have generation of players coming together, its one age group. Meath and Kildare in particular should have as good minors as Dublin in some particular year. Its only one year at U17.

Despite the angle of significant Meath success your trying to argue here, this deacde Dublin fave won 4 minor Leinsters in 11, '12, '14, '17 - that is not Meath beating Dublin 4 straight years at minor, junior and minor perhaps, ill clarify that, Meath have only ever won 11 leinster minors in their history, Dublin have won more then a third of that this decade (so far) ill take that. It hardly indicates the picture you are painting of Meath being any type of dominant force at underage, in fact the exact opposite. Dublin are dominating silverware in minor and U20 grade.

We are also dominating at U20/21 never mind Leinster but nationally, i would wholly acknowledge Kildare were one of the best teams though ive seen at that great ever, last year. Certainly the best team weve played.

Ha ha i wont swap our forwards for your and im not arguing the point a chara, as i have a feeling you have your finger on the trigger finger on a post that will take up a week of life responding to."
I left this on its own because u have difficulties understanding this part.

In 2017 there was the minor under 18 All Ireland championship.
And there was a second All Ireland championship, the inaugural minor under 17 All Ireland championship.

There was two All Ireland championships in 2017 at the minor grade.

U had the traditional minor under 18 All Ireland championship in 2017 . Kerry were the winners.
The winners of Munster were kerry , the winners of Leinster were Dublin , the winners of Ulster were Derry and the winners of Connacht were Galway. The final.was held before senior final in September

Now please follow and take note there was also an inaugural All Ireland U17 , first minor All. Ireland championship at this grade. 32 counties involved in an All Ireland championship and the final.was played before Dublin v Tyrone All Ireland senior semi final in Croke Park. Not a junior final , Not A JUNIOR final..An Under 17 All Ireland championship , the first at this new grade at minor.

The winners of this second All Ireland championship in 2017, U17 All Ireland championship was Tryrone.
Meath won leinster , Kerry won Munster , Roscommon won Connacht, Tyrone won Ulster.
It widely reported and it was All Ireland title Tyrone won. And this years Under 20 players will.mostly come from those u17 teams..So Dublin Meath kildares Under, 20 most of their players will come from their Under 17 All Ireland championship teams of 2017.

So there was 2 All Irelands played in 2017 the only time this has happened for footballers at this age.

So 2 All Ireland championship, 2 Two All Ireland championships, deux All Irelands championships for footballers at this age group in 2017.

Again in summary
In 2017
1 There was U 18 minor All Ireland championship
and secondly there was
2 There was inaugural U17 minor All Ireland championship.

And from 2018 onwards minor became U17 , and there is one All Ireland championship for players around that age again.

U have not mentioned this inaugural under 17 All Ireland championship. U have mentioned the junior football which I never mentioned. But seen u havent mentioned this U17 All Ireland championship and I have now mentioned upteem times I would hope u can understand there was U17 and U18 All Ireland minor championship in 2017 , 2 All Ireland championship at those age group in 2017. 2 All Ireland championship in 1 year. Thats where u r mixed up. I will put later the documentary evidence with proper links to show these games. Thats all I can do show the facts show the evidence . Thats all. If u wouldn't accept the fact u cannot have a conversation with somone who wouldnt accept facts.

But please can u understand there was 2 All Ireland championship in 2017 one at U17 and the other at U18. Meath won 2 games v Dublin at U17 in 2017 ( because there is a round robin in leinster) and Dublin won 1 games v Meath at U18 in 2017.

Again there was two All Irelands in 2017 . Kerry won All Ireland U18 championship in September 2017. In the other separate minor All Ireland championship Tyrone won the inaugural All Ireland U17 championship in 2017.

Again just to make sure and again no mention of junior football ok no mention.

Two All Irelands in 2017 . One at Under 18 and second one at Under 17.

And in 2018 and 2019 minor All Ireland championship became U17 championship, but the inuagural championship was in 2017.

Again two All Irelands. U have made no mention of U17 inaugural minor All Ireland championship. This is where u r mixed up..I will put up links of the six games and their reports and u will see there is no mention of junior football. And that there was 6 games at minor ( U17 , U18 ) in the last 4 years and Meath had 4 victories and Dublin 2 victories. Fact.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 18/06/2019 12:55:33    2197066

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Meath should win this handy enough I'd say

Meath10 (Meath) - Posts: 183 - 18/06/2019 13:17:11    2197078

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Its very hard to have a conversation with someone who hasnt a grasp of the facts who doesnt know the facts. U r mxed up and also saying things I did not say. And ur last comment was way under the belt.

1 I dont know where u think I mentioned junior football. Not once did I reference a junior game of football. Not ONCE did I even mention the word junior. Because Meath havent play Dublin in junior football for years and Dublin dont enter a team in junior leinster championship in recent years.

2 U say I am trying to say that Meath are juggernaut at minor level compared to Dublin. This is what I said three times before and I will repeat Three times for u.

Dublin have wiped the floor with Meath at underage , minor under 21 for years. Its only in last 3 or 4 years Meath have got their act together at minor and had sucess.
Dublin have wiped the floor with Meath at underage, minor and under 21 for years, its only in the last 3 or 4 years Meaths have had sucess minor.
Dublin have wiped the floor with Meath at underage at minor and under 21 for years , its only in the last 3 or 4 years Meath had sucess at minor.
Now is that clear. I have said that 6 times here and above for ur attention.

3 U said I posted a junior result from 2019 , I didnt post any result from junior the result from 2019 is the result u mentioned above but u r so mixed up u cannot see this. And again I never once mentioned a junior match and once mentioned the word junior in any of my above posts. Ur just making stuff up.

4 Yes Dublin have more minor titles then Meath . Dublin would want to seen Dublin have ten times the population resources and money then Meath for 100 years. Dublin of course should be, being the capital and the most powerful county in Ireland. But Meaths is the second most sucessful county in leinster at minor in the whole provience. Remeber most teams are starved of minor All Ireland and provicial sucess. Kildare have never won an minor All Ireland title. Louth havent won leinster minor since 1953 , Offaly since 1989 , laois havent won leinster minor in 13 years Westmeath have 2 titles in 60 years.

And remember Dublin 8 where won before the 50s when u had more country lads playing for Dublin. Wicklow club winning All Ireland senior for Dublin , and senior Dublins teams full of kerry Mayo and country lads , feck all.Dublin lads winning All Irelands for Dublin up 1958.. So just as u can knock 15 senior All Irelands of Dublins total u can also knock 8 leinster minor titles .

Of course Meath have won more All Ireland minor titles then Dublin have in the last 35 years. Meath have 2 All Irelands minor titles in 1990 and 1992. Dublin have won 1 minor All Ireland title between between 1985 and 2018, in 33 years and that was in 2012. But probaly will disagree with this and say I was talking about a junior match."
I stick by the facts of everything i posted in all honesty, you started the topic by saying Meath had beaten Dublin at minor four times in four years, that hasnt been the case, they may have beaten four times at different grades but not minor for all the facts i posted, the history of the minor championship is there for all to see. Simply put if Dublin beat Meath in 17 and 19 in addition to the Leinster championships they won this decade its impossible for Meath to have beaten Dublin four times in the minor grade.

But i do however do apologise if you are offended by what i posted that wanst my intention, i try to treat people how they treat others, so my intention in replying to your posts was to be respectful and provide a factual basis for my argument.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/06/2019 13:30:49    2197087

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "I left this on its own because u have difficulties understanding this part.

In 2017 there was the minor under 18 All Ireland championship.
And there was a second All Ireland championship, the inaugural minor under 17 All Ireland championship.

There was two All Ireland championships in 2017 at the minor grade.

U had the traditional minor under 18 All Ireland championship in 2017 . Kerry were the winners.
The winners of Munster were kerry , the winners of Leinster were Dublin , the winners of Ulster were Derry and the winners of Connacht were Galway. The final.was held before senior final in September

Now please follow and take note there was also an inaugural All Ireland U17 , first minor All. Ireland championship at this grade. 32 counties involved in an All Ireland championship and the final.was played before Dublin v Tyrone All Ireland senior semi final in Croke Park. Not a junior final , Not A JUNIOR final..An Under 17 All Ireland championship , the first at this new grade at minor.

The winners of this second All Ireland championship in 2017, U17 All Ireland championship was Tryrone.
Meath won leinster , Kerry won Munster , Roscommon won Connacht, Tyrone won Ulster.
It widely reported and it was All Ireland title Tyrone won. And this years Under 20 players will.mostly come from those u17 teams..So Dublin Meath kildares Under, 20 most of their players will come from their Under 17 All Ireland championship teams of 2017.

So there was 2 All Irelands played in 2017 the only time this has happened for footballers at this age.

So 2 All Ireland championship, 2 Two All Ireland championships, deux All Irelands championships for footballers at this age group in 2017.

Again in summary
In 2017
1 There was U 18 minor All Ireland championship
and secondly there was
2 There was inaugural U17 minor All Ireland championship.

And from 2018 onwards minor became U17 , and there is one All Ireland championship for players around that age again.

U have not mentioned this inaugural under 17 All Ireland championship. U have mentioned the junior football which I never mentioned. But seen u havent mentioned this U17 All Ireland championship and I have now mentioned upteem times I would hope u can understand there was U17 and U18 All Ireland minor championship in 2017 , 2 All Ireland championship at those age group in 2017. 2 All Ireland championship in 1 year. Thats where u r mixed up. I will put later the documentary evidence with proper links to show these games. Thats all I can do show the facts show the evidence . Thats all. If u wouldn't accept the fact u cannot have a conversation with somone who wouldnt accept facts.

But please can u understand there was 2 All Ireland championship in 2017 one at U17 and the other at U18. Meath won 2 games v Dublin at U17 in 2017 ( because there is a round robin in leinster) and Dublin won 1 games v Meath at U18 in 2017.

Again there was two All Irelands in 2017 . Kerry won All Ireland U18 championship in September 2017. In the other separate minor All Ireland championship Tyrone won the inaugural All Ireland U17 championship in 2017.

Again just to make sure and again no mention of junior football ok no mention.

Two All Irelands in 2017 . One at Under 18 and second one at Under 17.

And in 2018 and 2019 minor All Ireland championship became U17 championship, but the inuagural championship was in 2017.

Again two All Irelands. U have made no mention of U17 inaugural minor All Ireland championship. This is where u r mixed up..I will put up links of the six games and their reports and u will see there is no mention of junior football. And that there was 6 games at minor ( U17 , U18 ) in the last 4 years and Meath had 4 victories and Dublin 2 victories. Fact."
Well thanks for the very clear break down a chara, of course the dogs in the street are aware of it from the get go and ultimately i knew we would finish here.

To be honest i dont accept what you are saying on the basis of the U17 championship wasn't designated minor in my opinion. To the best of my knowledge the U17 championship. was designated minor until the rule came into force changing the age of the grade. That rule came into force on 1st of January 2018.

So essentially Meath won two U 17 games "junior" would be my local language, perhaps im wrong on semantics, not to be insulting. Also two minor games in 16 and 18 and more power to them.

Balance returned to the force.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/06/2019 14:12:52    2197106

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Dont know what to tell you mate, you are wrong, look at the articles i posted from 2017. Dublin beat Meath and are Leinster champions 2017.

Furlong i dont doubt that Meath have won some games against Dublin at junior level. You are being selective by offering the profile, of minor. yes Meath have beaten Dublin a minor in a couple of years.

But you are clearly being disingenuous to prove your innital point that junior games are minors ones that Neath are some kind of underage Juggernaut.

Ive actually posted the minor results, and the fact Dublin have won the minor Leinster in 2017, beating Meath in the first round, Meath were knocked back out be Laois. You have also posted a junior result form 2019, Dublin beat Meath at minor just a few wees ago and Meath were knocked out of the championship by the Westies who play at the weekend in Mullingar shortly afterwards.

fair enough Meah have beaten Dublin at some junior grades and a couple of times at minor in the last few years, but to say they have beaten Dublin four times at minor grade just simply isnt true.

Anyhow what i would say on Dublin at minor is by far our least successful grade. I really thin Meath, Kildare and other Leinster counties should be doing far better. There are a couple of reasons why Dublin dont so well at minor in my opinion. I think we take a bit of different approach, we usually use the whole panel often making six or seven changes for a game, the grade for us is about player development rather then really being competitive. I thnk we take U20 far more seriously competitively. the other thing about Dublin minors is that almost every year our best players are dual players. For example a rising star for us in Luke Swan this year at minor, he is a star before the footballers and hurlers and he is one of many in the panel. He is playing every three days at the moment and his load is being clearly minded, he is one of many on our current minior team. This seems to be case for a lot of our minor players.

I also believe Dublin shouldn't be as domininet in Leinster underage as they are, its not the same make up as a senior team were you have generation of players coming together, its one age group. Meath and Kildare in particular should have as good minors as Dublin in some particular year. Its only one year at U17.

Despite the angle of significant Meath success your trying to argue here, this deacde Dublin fave won 4 minor Leinsters in 11, '12, '14, '17 - that is not Meath beating Dublin 4 straight years at minor, junior and minor perhaps, ill clarify that, Meath have only ever won 11 leinster minors in their history, Dublin have won more then a third of that this decade (so far) ill take that. It hardly indicates the picture you are painting of Meath being any type of dominant force at underage, in fact the exact opposite. Dublin are dominating silverware in minor and U20 grade.

We are also dominating at U20/21 never mind Leinster but nationally, i would wholly acknowledge Kildare were one of the best teams though ive seen at that great ever, last year. Certainly the best team weve played.

Ha ha i wont swap our forwards for your and im not arguing the point a chara, as i have a feeling you have your finger on the trigger finger on a post that will take up a week of life responding to."
Here is the documentary evidence to show 6 Meath v Dublin games at U18 and U17 minor championships in the last 4 years.

Game 1

2016 Meath v Dublin May 21st 2016
Meath beat Dublin in Leinster Minor U18 Championship
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https://www.the42.ie/meath-beat-dubs-leinster-minor-football-2781929-May2016/

Game 2

2017 Meath v Dublin June 29, 2017

Meath beat Dublin in leinster Minor U17 Championship First Round
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http://www.hoganstand.com/meath/Article/Index/272309

Game 3

2017 Meath v Dublin July 23rd , 2017
Meath beat Dublin in leinster Minor U17 Final
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http://www.skrynegfc.ie/meath-u17s-become-div-1-champions-with-skryne-colm-doherty-in-midfield?


Game 4 Meath v Dublin 22nd April 2017
Dublin beat Meath in leinster Minor U18 Championship First Round
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https://www.the42.ie/dublin-meath-minor-report-3353199-Apr2017/


Game 5 Meath v Dublin May 2018
Meath beat Dublin in leinster Minor U17 Championship
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https://www.balls.ie/gaa/electric-ireland-meath-dublin-minor-football-387258


Game 6 Meath v Dublin 30th May 2019
Dublin beat Meath in Leinster Minor U17 champioship
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https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/second-half-goals-seal-win-16173028


These are 6 games and 6 links above. These are the facts , if you disagree with factual evidence , with the facts, theres nothing more I can do.


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Here is footage of Meath V Tyrone U17 All Ireland Semi final in 2017, when leinster champions met the Ulster champion.


https://www.facebook.com/meathchronicle/videos/all-ireland-u17-semi-final-v-tyrone-full-time-tyrone-1-14meath-0-10/10155610580470818/

Finally a link to 2017 U17 All Ireland Football Final Tyrone v Rosommon

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/tyrone-win-all-ireland-under-football-competition/

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 18/06/2019 14:30:27    2197115

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Here is the documentary evidence to show 6 Meath v Dublin games at U18 and U17 minor championships in the last 4 years.

Game 1

2016 Meath v Dublin May 21st 2016
Meath beat Dublin in Leinster Minor U18 Championship
link Below
https://www.the42.ie/meath-beat-dubs-leinster-minor-football-2781929-May2016/

Game 2

2017 Meath v Dublin June 29, 2017

Meath beat Dublin in leinster Minor U17 Championship First Round
link below
http://www.hoganstand.com/meath/Article/Index/272309

Game 3

2017 Meath v Dublin July 23rd , 2017
Meath beat Dublin in leinster Minor U17 Final
link below
http://www.skrynegfc.ie/meath-u17s-become-div-1-champions-with-skryne-colm-doherty-in-midfield?


Game 4 Meath v Dublin 22nd April 2017
Dublin beat Meath in leinster Minor U18 Championship First Round
link below
https://www.the42.ie/dublin-meath-minor-report-3353199-Apr2017/


Game 5 Meath v Dublin May 2018
Meath beat Dublin in leinster Minor U17 Championship
link below
https://www.balls.ie/gaa/electric-ireland-meath-dublin-minor-football-387258


Game 6 Meath v Dublin 30th May 2019
Dublin beat Meath in Leinster Minor U17 champioship
link below
https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/second-half-goals-seal-win-16173028


These are 6 games and 6 links above. These are the facts , if you disagree with factual evidence , with the facts, theres nothing more I can do.


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Here is footage of Meath V Tyrone U17 All Ireland Semi final in 2017, when leinster champions met the Ulster champion.


https://www.facebook.com/meathchronicle/videos/all-ireland-u17-semi-final-v-tyrone-full-time-tyrone-1-14meath-0-10/10155610580470818/

Finally a link to 2017 U17 All Ireland Football Final Tyrone v Rosommon

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/tyrone-win-all-ireland-under-football-competition/"
Ah i think we are congruent now a chara, Meath have won two minor U18 games and two U17 games.

We're all Kool and significant others who happen to play instruments.

No harm, no foul, i hope you enjoy the game on Sun.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/06/2019 14:40:11    2197119

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Ah i think we are congruent now a chara, Meath have won two minor U18 games and two U17 games.

We're all Kool and significant others who happen to play instruments.

No harm, no foul, i hope you enjoy the game on Sun."
Meath have won 4 minor games( U17 , U18) and Dublin have won 2 minor games ( U17 , U18). I think I cannot explain it more. I was at those 6 matchs and I know what they were then and now.
We will agree to disagree. Leave it there.

I cannot say I hope u enjoy the game , coz that would mean Dublin would be beating Meath. But hopefully we see a great contest reminiscent of great Meath v Dublin games in the past. It would do the provience a world of good to see a great game between Meath and Dublin on Sunday

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 18/06/2019 15:17:37    2197139

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Im looking for rain lots of rain on Sunday. I know Dublin can play well in the rain , but dirty rainy day can lead to dogfight..What is Dublins lowest scoring All Ireland final in this decade . It was 2015 a dreadful day I think the scores was 0 - 12 Dublin kerry 0 - 9. I am a traditionalist everytime Meath played Dublin in an leinster final and we underdogs rain and we won more rain the better. Our two massive upsets v Dublin were in 1986 and 1996 both dreadful conditions.

These are the three lowest scoring leinster finals of the last 50 years

1 1985 leinster Final Dublin 0 - 10 laois 0- 4
2 1986 leinster Final Meath 0 - 9 Dublin 0 - 7
3 1996 leinster Final Meath 0 - 10 Dublin 0 - 8

All dreadful dirty wet days. Its just a feeling a wet dirty day could lead to dogfight can lead to low scoring games. I cud be wrong.

If it is dry Meath need 3 goals and to keep Dublin goaless. Everytime Meath have kept Dublin goaless they defeated in the championship. Dublin did not score a goal v Meath in any of the games Meath defeated them in the championship eg 1986 1987 1988 1990 1991 1996 1997 1999 2001 2010. Only twice have Dublin in the last 40 years not scored a goal and still won that was in 2007 replay and the last game in 2016.

So Meath need to keep Dublin goaless. Score 3 goals. If I was McEntee I would go like they did in league final . Go at Dublin from the throw in and throw the kitchen sink at Dublin in first 20 mins. U look.at how Galway took down Codys Kilkenny a couple years ago when kilkenny were just as dominate in leinster hurling. Galway blew kilkenny out of the water in first 20 mins. And in McEntees All Ireland final with Ballyboden Ballyboden blew the opposition away in the first 20 mins. Maybe this could be McEntees plan. We need to take the fight Dublin not stand back and admire them.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 18/06/2019 16:52:21    2197185

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Im looking for rain lots of rain on Sunday. I know Dublin can play well in the rain , but dirty rainy day can lead to dogfight..What is Dublins lowest scoring All Ireland final in this decade . It was 2015 a dreadful day I think the scores was 0 - 12 Dublin kerry 0 - 9. I am a traditionalist everytime Meath played Dublin in an leinster final and we underdogs rain and we won more rain the better. Our two massive upsets v Dublin were in 1986 and 1996 both dreadful conditions.

These are the three lowest scoring leinster finals of the last 50 years

1 1985 leinster Final Dublin 0 - 10 laois 0- 4
2 1986 leinster Final Meath 0 - 9 Dublin 0 - 7
3 1996 leinster Final Meath 0 - 10 Dublin 0 - 8

All dreadful dirty wet days. Its just a feeling a wet dirty day could lead to dogfight can lead to low scoring games. I cud be wrong.

If it is dry Meath need 3 goals and to keep Dublin goaless. Everytime Meath have kept Dublin goaless they defeated in the championship. Dublin did not score a goal v Meath in any of the games Meath defeated them in the championship eg 1986 1987 1988 1990 1991 1996 1997 1999 2001 2010. Only twice have Dublin in the last 40 years not scored a goal and still won that was in 2007 replay and the last game in 2016.

So Meath need to keep Dublin goaless. Score 3 goals. If I was McEntee I would go like they did in league final . Go at Dublin from the throw in and throw the kitchen sink at Dublin in first 20 mins. U look.at how Galway took down Codys Kilkenny a couple years ago when kilkenny were just as dominate in leinster hurling. Galway blew kilkenny out of the water in first 20 mins. And in McEntees All Ireland final with Ballyboden Ballyboden blew the opposition away in the first 20 mins. Maybe this could be McEntees plan. We need to take the fight Dublin not stand back and admire them."
Looking ahead to weather, you may get your wish my old friend.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/06/2019 17:24:36    2197206

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Obviously we're going to win but Meath have pacy forward's to cause us problems but it would be lovely to get 5 goals just so Royaldunne doesn't have that over us on here, he likes to bring it up a lot.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 18/06/2019 18:22:20    2197230

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Obviously we're going to win but Meath have pacy forward's to cause us problems but it would be lovely to get 5 goals just so Royaldunne doesn't have that over us on here, he likes to bring it up a lot."
Ahh clondalkindub my old old friend.
What time is it??? :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/06/2019 19:17:15    2197250

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Ahh clondalkindub my old old friend.
What time is it??? :)"
Is it five past cluxton??? :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/06/2019 20:06:55    2197281

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The last 2 times we played Dublin in the championship (2014 and 2016) were sad watching. 2014 kind of felt like the end of an era for this rivalary. Meath standards obviously dropped off in the early 2000's (with a bit of an uplift towards the end of the last decade) but up to 2014 we always performed against Dublin despite Dublin being one of the countries best teams. I think Meath are going into the game in a good place & we will be up for this and will play better than most expect. My worry is that what has been an advantage for us, having a number of small fast players (eg. Conlon and McMahon) might become a disadvantage against the better teams. Conlon has great potential but possibly needs to put on a bit of muscle.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1358 - 18/06/2019 20:20:38    2197292

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Looking ahead to weather, you may get your wish my old friend."
Is there rain Royaldunne?. Wet buckets of rain and dark clouds over the wet soaked hill. It could be the final part of the Royal Rebellion in Croker in the Rain Trilogy.

Part 1 was In 1986, we were massive massive underdogs Dublin had won 9 of the previous 12 leinster titles and played in 9 of the previous 12 All Ireland finals when we played them in 1986. Meath were heroric that day , hounding Dublin for every ball like maniacs and it was a seriously bad day.

Part 2 In 1996 Dublin were reigning All-Ireland champions. Carlow were favourites to beat Meath in first round of championship in 96. We reached the final masive underdogs with bunch of 20 years like Darren Fay and Tevour Giles . And in another wet dirty day , the hill was soaked to the bone as Meath revolution rumbled the Dubs in the rain.

So could Sunday it be Part 3 of the Royal Rebellion in the Rain. A Meath / Dublin dogfight in the rain where u have 15 Meath men and 15 Dublin men hitting hard and fair and u have a battle or should I say 70 mins of war of attrition , where the best army of men stand victorious at the end. Id say even the Dubs would welcome a battle in the rain on Sunday. To give the Dubs their credit they never back down from a challenge. Its now our turn , the turn of 15 Meath men to go to war as the dark cloud comes over Jones Road ..And as the darkness and quiteness falls on Hill 16 , as the Dubs witness another generation of Meath footballers go to war against the Jackeens.

I will be definately watching the weather forecast every night now. Let it be a great warm summer. But on 23rd June from 4.00 to 5. 30 let it pour down from the heavens over Croker and let hell be unleashed on the field as the Meath v Dublin dogfight begin. This is not a football match , this is two tribes digging trenchs and 70 mins of hard battling football. Meath just have to remember one thing. Meath and Dublin are not equals , we are better then Dublin. In every way we have always being and always be better then Dublin. We are faster, we r stronger, we r quicker, we are tougher we smarter , we are funnier , we are better dancers , we are better singers we are better storytellers. All these things and much more for generations. We just need to tap into our dna and the rest willl flow.

Its just a rivalry. The Dubs think they are better then Meath. And in Meath as a football county we think we are better then Dublin. Its Slane Castle versus Dublin castle , the Hill of Tara versus Howth Hill , Its Tommy Tiernan versus Ryan Turbity , its Navan Shopping centre versus Blanchardstown shopping centre , its Gordon Elliot versus Brian Kerr, its the Book of kells versus Ulyses, its lisa Hannigan versus Imelda May , Its Bruton versus Bertie , its Johnny Murtagh versus Robbie keane , its bettystown beach versus Dublin bay , its the culchies versus the jackeens , its the boggers versus the city slickers , its the Royals versus the Jackeens. Its Meath versus Dublin.

Oh please please make it be like the games of the 70s 80s and 90..70 mins of manly war of skill and battle where there is only a score between the teams and both teams shakes hand at the end of 70 nins after trying to knock the head of each other for those 70 mins.

A proper Meath Dublin contest nothing comes close. Forget ur Barcelonas and Reals. , Forget ur Celtics and Rangers , forget ur Man Utd and Liverpool, Forget ur leinster and Munster, Meath and Dublin when it is real contest for 70 mins , its puts the above rivals and rivalries in the hapenny place. It just matter more , its Meath versus Dublin.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 18/06/2019 20:23:49    2197296

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