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Cork could get their act together and win this one. Kerry might need a wake up call before the super 8s.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3706 - 12/06/2019 14:32:20    2193959

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Cork could get their act together and win this one. Kerry might need a wake up call before the super 8s."
We are there for the taking in my opinion, Cork might not get as good a chance to beat us again for a long time Donegalman.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9715 - 12/06/2019 16:10:18    2194003

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Cork's aim will be to keep it to a single digit loss.

Not likely to happen. Kerry should win by in or around 15 points I'd say."
So what has happened to a proud football county like Cork ? Is rugby taking over in parts like West Cork which always provided players to the great Cork teams of the past ?

Redhot (Cork) - Posts: 697 - 13/06/2019 17:48:45    2194528

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Replying To Redhot:  "So what has happened to a proud football county like Cork ? Is rugby taking over in parts like West Cork which always provided players to the great Cork teams of the past ?"
Its kerrys fault...similar to leinster football counties they lose interest when dublin are out of reach and the australian rugby team have stopped fighting the all black rugby wave and moved on to something more successful. kerry took the rivalry much more serious then cork instead of being humble tried to humiliate cork on the field so cork moved on to hurling or somewhere they have success in.

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 392 - 13/06/2019 20:31:06    2194579

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Replying To brisbane:  "Its kerrys fault...similar to leinster football counties they lose interest when dublin are out of reach and the australian rugby team have stopped fighting the all black rugby wave and moved on to something more successful. kerry took the rivalry much more serious then cork instead of being humble tried to humiliate cork on the field so cork moved on to hurling or somewhere they have success in."
I believe it's all to do with the volunteers in Kerry.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9715 - 13/06/2019 21:27:17    2194592

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Watched Cork twice this year (twice more than most Cork people) First against Meath in the league where they were poor, but still had their chances, Were missing quite a few lads that night, with the likes of Hurley and Collins only coming off the bench when game was lost. Saw their game against Limerick and even though opposition were very poor, Cork looked like a rejuvenated side. Expect them to give Kerry a decent test, but current rebuilding will take a bit longer. The super 8s is a realistic possability and at the very least they deserve a decent support on Munster final day.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1264 - 13/06/2019 21:46:20    2194609

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Corn football has struggled for 50 years.
Only for Billy Morgan they would have 1 all Ireland to show for those last 50 years.

Kerry could win the next 10 munsters at theirs leisure

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 781 - 13/06/2019 21:53:01    2194613

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No two teams have played each other more in the Championship than Cork v Kerry. It is the only fixture that has reached over the 100 milestone with 116 matches. Kerry have won 73 games, Cork have won 30 games and there have been 13 draws.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12113 - 13/06/2019 22:18:31    2194627

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Replying To seadog54:  "Watched Cork twice this year (twice more than most Cork people) First against Meath in the league where they were poor, but still had their chances, Were missing quite a few lads that night, with the likes of Hurley and Collins only coming off the bench when game was lost. Saw their game against Limerick and even though opposition were very poor, Cork looked like a rejuvenated side. Expect them to give Kerry a decent test, but current rebuilding will take a bit longer. The super 8s is a realistic possability and at the very least they deserve a decent support on Munster final day."
They are not going to get it unfortunately. Crowd will be tiny.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3739 - 13/06/2019 22:46:49    2194639

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Replying To OLLIE:  "No two teams have played each other more in the Championship than Cork v Kerry. It is the only fixture that has reached over the 100 milestone with 116 matches. Kerry have won 73 games, Cork have won 30 games and there have been 13 draws."
Nice stat that Ollie.

Cork took their eye off the ball with regards to football.
a decade ago Cork had an extremely fit dynamic team with some really skillful players. Nowadays they have fit young lads , not very dynamic and no real gifted player. Hurley though is a great asset to have back and next year expect to see Ciaran Sheehan who always gave Kerry problems back in the side.

Personally i think the rot set in with Cuthbert (who was harshly hounded out of the job) but he did make a big boo boo getting rid of too many older players at once. Brought in a whole host of younger players who in hindsight were never up to the task. 3 brothers from 1 west cork club spring to mind. Cork were always competitive under him though.
Also Aidan Walsh indecision if he was a footballer or a hurler was a big blow. Totally lost his mojo as an intercounty footballer , a pity as at 1 stage i thought he could have been better than Daragh O Se.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2064 - 14/06/2019 09:01:59    2194709

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''Tis an awful shame to see so little spark in this fixture which has lost any bit of uncertainty about the outcome for years now.
When you look at the whole provincial championship structure it's fair clear now that they are a complete farce and long past their best days.
If you 10,000 at this I'd say you'll be lucky. An awful shame really.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1016 - 14/06/2019 10:00:47    2194722

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Replying To catch22:  "''Tis an awful shame to see so little spark in this fixture which has lost any bit of uncertainty about the outcome for years now.
When you look at the whole provincial championship structure it's fair clear now that they are a complete farce and long past their best days.
If you 10,000 at this I'd say you'll be lucky. An awful shame really."
for sure catch22...i remember one final in Killarney in the early 90's when Cork used to piss down on us.
The crowd was so large ppl were allowed in from the terrace watching alongside the sideline.

Back door has diluted the provincial championships. Lose now and it matters very little for Kerry to be honest.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2064 - 14/06/2019 13:49:28    2194836

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Replying To woops:  "for sure catch22...i remember one final in Killarney in the early 90's when Cork used to piss down on us.
The crowd was so large ppl were allowed in from the terrace watching alongside the sideline.

Back door has diluted the provincial championships. Lose now and it matters very little for Kerry to be honest."
Couldn't agree more woops

The back door has greatly devalued the importance of the competitions across the board.

Every game used to be do or die thus adding far more gravitas to the games

Unfortunately with the introduction of the back door it was the beginning of the end for the championships

They won't be around for that much longer

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19593 - 14/06/2019 16:39:14    2194923

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Replying To woops:  "for sure catch22...i remember one final in Killarney in the early 90's when Cork used to piss down on us.
The crowd was so large ppl were allowed in from the terrace watching alongside the sideline.

Back door has diluted the provincial championships. Lose now and it matters very little for Kerry to be honest."
Tis only a balls of a job woops really when you see how poor the competition is in a couple of the provinces. There's tradition and there's competition and it seems like all the honchos are interested in is this provincial lark even though it's clear to a blind man that they're not up too much. Cork are in a bad way for a while and sure what of it even if they were flying sure there's still no real competition bar a Munster final.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1016 - 15/06/2019 14:11:46    2195239

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Corn football has struggled for 50 years.
Only for Billy Morgan they would have 1 all Ireland to show for those last 50 years.

Kerry could win the next 10 munsters at theirs leisure"
Strange comment. Which county hasn't been bang average over the last 50 years except for one manager, apart from Kerry and maybe Dublin? The other notable teams in that period generally had one man, maybe two at the helm over the period that won things. Tyrone, Galway, Meath, Down. I struggle to find anyone else.

Most have been worse and won feck all as you know well very.

I'll say Cork would do well to keep this game competitive for 70 min. Very sad that it has got to this point, but Cork county board were so used to having competitive teams in both codes, by purely picking players from clubs. Not enough underage development and coaching. Whereas the other big counties and many traditionally smaller counties got their act together and overtook them.

The county board started to put this right but concentrated on Hurling first as it is the dominant code. Unfortunately for football, they are only starting to put resource into it really. Sad for us guys in West Cork, as there are great football people and volunteers here.

BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 165 - 15/06/2019 16:02:28    2195284

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Thought I'd bounce this as it was on page 3

... and not in the brilliant way

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19593 - 22/06/2019 19:00:13    2198638

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7 mins in and its all over.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12724 - 22/06/2019 19:09:34    2198642

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Riveting

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19593 - 22/06/2019 19:14:41    2198643

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Good God this is horrendous. Another procession to a provincial title for the Kingdom in the land of the small ball. Kerry men must use these medals as paperweights at this stage. Munster well and truly dead. Not sure what's happening in Cork. Surely they have the population and money advantages in Munster. Just goes to show you.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4034 - 22/06/2019 19:31:10    2198648

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The standard in this match is shocking. The Cork attack is awful, so many missed chances. Kerry on the other hand are excellent up front but awful at the back.

The standard in the Ulster Championship has been much better than the other provinces so far.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 207 - 22/06/2019 19:31:20    2198649

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