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Imagine Being A Kildare/Longford Player Tonight!!

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It was lose lose for both teams before the ball was thrown in. Win the game and you go to Croker to likely get trounced by Dublin. Lose and you're out in the qualifiers.

The result ? A bloody draw AET. Read the report on the match tracker, players dropping like flies towards the end, game ends, what happens now ? A 7 day break and they go for another bloody 70 minutes, 7 days before going out against the Dubs on the huge CP pitch, who themselves have just come off the back of a comfortable 26 point win yester-evening.

Surely seen as the championship campaigned is condensed and the turn around is quicker than before, the logical thing is to just finish it on the day with a penalty shootout ?

Any chance either team had of making a semi competitive game is now gone out the window.

They don't help themselves the oul GAA do they ? If they'd twice their braincells they'd be twice as think.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/05/2019 19:42:14    2187760

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Replying To waynoI:  "It was lose lose for both teams before the ball was thrown in. Win the game and you go to Croker to likely get trounced by Dublin. Lose and you're out in the qualifiers.

The result ? A bloody draw AET. Read the report on the match tracker, players dropping like flies towards the end, game ends, what happens now ? A 7 day break and they go for another bloody 70 minutes, 7 days before going out against the Dubs on the huge CP pitch, who themselves have just come off the back of a comfortable 26 point win yester-evening.

Surely seen as the championship campaigned is condensed and the turn around is quicker than before, the logical thing is to just finish it on the day with a penalty shootout ?

Any chance either team had of making a semi competitive game is now gone out the window.

They don't help themselves the oul GAA do they ? If they'd twice their braincells they'd be twice as think."
You could argue that both teams are playing for the opportunity to be in the 2nd round qualifier draw. Such is the farcical nature of the Leinster championship, 2 wins in a row are needed(from preliminary round teams) to even be in the 2nd round.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 26/05/2019 20:04:30    2187779

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Surely if they're going to play two 10 minute periods of extra time then why the hell can't they play a further two 5 minute periods until there is a winner?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1909 - 26/05/2019 20:13:45    2187781

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Replying To Bon:  "Surely if they're going to play two 10 minute periods of extra time then why the hell can't they play a further two 5 minute periods until there is a winner?"
Wasn't that a thing before ?

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/05/2019 20:23:04    2187786

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Replying To waynoI:  "It was lose lose for both teams before the ball was thrown in. Win the game and you go to Croker to likely get trounced by Dublin. Lose and you're out in the qualifiers.

The result ? A bloody draw AET. Read the report on the match tracker, players dropping like flies towards the end, game ends, what happens now ? A 7 day break and they go for another bloody 70 minutes, 7 days before going out against the Dubs on the huge CP pitch, who themselves have just come off the back of a comfortable 26 point win yester-evening.

Surely seen as the championship campaigned is condensed and the turn around is quicker than before, the logical thing is to just finish it on the day with a penalty shootout ?

Any chance either team had of making a semi competitive game is now gone out the window.

They don't help themselves the oul GAA do they ? If they'd twice their braincells they'd be twice as think."
First score the winner after 10 minutes is up in the second period of extra time could be an option.

I did think there's a need for penalties in football.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 26/05/2019 20:38:47    2187793

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Seems a bit mad and maybe a better solution could be found then a replay, but this is championship football. Teams going through the qualifiers and ultimately these two teams will be anyway, will be playing every week anyway. They've known this since last year, I'm sure they have prepared their fitness accordingly.

I think anyone playing will just want to play for their county regardless of circumstances.

I'd look at it a different way, who wouldn't want to play Dublin in Croke Park on a sunny day in June, why break your break side all winter. It's the ultimate. Either way you will be in the qualifiers this round or next, may as well have a game in Croker before, likely be the highlight of the season.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/05/2019 20:49:58    2187799

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Why not find a system of tie breakers like
if its a draw after extra team the side with most goals in the game goes through if sides have scored same amount of goals then whoever scored first goal wins and if not goals scored whoever had least red/yellow cards?

But crazy situation that shouldnt have happened.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 26/05/2019 22:05:50    2187860

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Agreed that it should go to penalties. But disagree that either team ever had any chance of being competitive with Dublin.

You can't slag off the GAA for silly decisions when you happily said nothing for all those years they gave Dublin 10 times the funds of everyone else.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 26/05/2019 23:49:32    2187903

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'Any chance either team had of making a semi competitive game is now gone out the window. '

Aw wayno, it's sweet that you even consider the possibility that either team had a chance of making a semi competitive game out of it before yesterday's game ! haha

Don't want to be speaking for Longford (maybe some of their supporters believe they might put up some sort of competition) but as far as Kildare are concerned, we are a shambles. If we win the replay (which I wouldn't be betting on) I will be amazed if we let in less than the 5 goals Louth conceded v the Dubs. It will be horrible for us.

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 27/05/2019 09:14:47    2187965

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This was played like an OByrne Cup game. The standard was shocking and it was clear that neither team really wanted to win. A complete farce. What is the point in going in against Dublin? Football is dead in the rest of Leinster.

Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 27/05/2019 09:23:14    2187971

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When Kerry were winning all around them, scoring 9 goals v Clare at one stage, no one said "whats the point " they just became hellbent on trying to stop them, and it eventually happened, just as it will to us.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 27/05/2019 11:49:48    2188060

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Replying To Daith:  "This was played like an OByrne Cup game. The standard was shocking and it was clear that neither team really wanted to win. A complete farce. What is the point in going in against Dublin? Football is dead in the rest of Leinster."
What are you smoking? Yesterdays game was a prime example that football inst dead in the rest of leinster, just that nobody is anywhere nearer to Dublin.

If it wasn't Longford ye were playing im sure you wouldn't be as negative when the fact of the matter is Kildare should have lost.

Tough game in tough conditions yet there was 40 scores scored!!! Longford missing 8 players that started and nearly bet ye last year putting up a performance like that tells a lot. Kildare have always had notions about themselves and i think yesterdays game along with the Wicklow game should dispel any of that craic!

That being said we could easily get well beaten next time out but i think the overall standard in the province has improved, excluding Dublin v anyone of course.

LongfordSham (Longford) - Posts: 106 - 27/05/2019 13:02:13    2188094

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Only 2 matches so far that weren't competitive. Hopefully the replay and laois v Meath are because we know there the only 2 remaining fixtures that have a chance.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 27/05/2019 13:33:06    2188114

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I laugh at ye Kildare supporters, the most negative shower that's out there. It was a great game of football a joy to watch scores galore. Would ye rather watch the likes of fermanagh and donegal low scoring hand passing back and across the pitch. Sure dublin might give either of us a clipping but that's where ya want to be at giving them a rattle. They have to slip eventually. Last year we played with 14 men for 3/4 of the game and have to say we didn't put a bad showing in. Hopefully this year if we win the replay we can give it another good go

rahoorahoo (Longford) - Posts: 56 - 31/05/2019 12:48:30    2189378

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Replying To rahoorahoo:  "I laugh at ye Kildare supporters, the most negative shower that's out there. It was a great game of football a joy to watch scores galore. Would ye rather watch the likes of fermanagh and donegal low scoring hand passing back and across the pitch. Sure dublin might give either of us a clipping but that's where ya want to be at giving them a rattle. They have to slip eventually. Last year we played with 14 men for 3/4 of the game and have to say we didn't put a bad showing in. Hopefully this year if we win the replay we can give it another good go"
Well said. They view Longford like you are some crap team they should be hammering. The reality is this Longford team are right up there with meath and Kildare and if it wasn't for Dublin they'd be leinster contenders.

Getting an extra match before the inevitable Dublin trimming is a good thing. If I was either manager I'd do my best to win this but then rest the first 15 vs Dublin and save them for round 2 of the qualifiers.

If Kildare win they'll be playing 3 weeks on the bounce and might have a qualifier a week later. If they don't rest their players vs Dublin that's their fault if they run out of gas a week later. You need to look at the bigger picture which is the super 8's and hope you get into a group without Dublin or kerry.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 31/05/2019 12:59:34    2189388

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Agreed that it should go to penalties. But disagree that either team ever had any chance of being competitive with Dublin.

You can't slag off the GAA for silly decisions when you happily said nothing for all those years they gave Dublin 10 times the funds of everyone else."
I think it's called irony jack

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2019 13:17:07    2189394

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Awful showing from Longford in the replay, what a turnaround from last week to not competing today.

A fan would have a lot of questions, from the number of players who have suddenly opted not to be involved with the panel this year,to this type of inconsistency that was also an issue in the league. Apart from management, has something else changed this year we can point to?

Fully aware Kildare are super 8s last year and played well this weekend but not spectacularly and we failed to compete

camlin90 (Longford) - Posts: 3 - 03/06/2019 08:24:12    2190072

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