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The FAI are in trouble. They risk losing some of their funding due to the John Delaney issue. Personally I don't think Mr Delaney's salary and behaviour is justified. But I don't like the way the Irish sports media have chased this story like a pack of hunting hounds chasing a fox. It is the FAI today, will it be the GAA tomorrow? galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 16/04/2019 11:09:54 2179080 Link 0 |
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If anything like this came to light in the GAA I'd hope that the media chased it like dogs. Financial impropriety is not on in any walk of life, let alone in an amateur organisation where excess funds are meant to be recycled back into the games. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4225 - 16/04/2019 12:04:19 2179091 Link 4 |
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Mr Delaney was on huge money. But he claimed he gave a loan to the FAI. Yes it is good the way Mark Tighe in particular sourced this story. But I am saying why stop funding the FAI? Like the GAA they have an army of volunteers. Why punish the kids and the mentors? galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 16/04/2019 12:18:37 2179096 Link 0 |
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The list of dodgy Government agencies is long. Very long. There is mismanagement nearly everywhere. Even sports cough splutter who have good reputations have got dig outs and loans. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 16/04/2019 12:20:26 2179098 Link 0 |
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Genuinely don't understand your issue here. If the GAA was acting like the FAI (i've a feeling that all is not above board) I would want journalists chasing them down like rabid dogs. Good corporate governance is a necessity in any organisation.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 16/04/2019 12:26:56 2179099 Link 0 |
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I think what's come out about the FAI now should embolden politicians and stakeholders to fix an equally skeptical eye towards our other main field sports organizations, the GAA and IRFU. There's huge amounts of money flowing through Croke Park each year and I don't doubt for a moment that there's some questionable use being made of some of it by some people. Given the huge financing of Dublin over every other county, the weak arguments put forward for this not to mention the PUC fiasco, the never ending Casement Park situation, under the table payments - to name but a few issues; I really do think that once we're done with the FAI the other two organizations need to be compelled to come before public representatives and air their closets. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 16/04/2019 12:30:37 2179100 Link 2 |
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My issue is why punish the FAI volunteers, who like the GAA go out on Saturday mornings to coach and organize kids. Punish for the wrong doings of some corporate "heads" in the Abbotstown Hq. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 16/04/2019 12:32:26 2179101 Link 0 |
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My issue is why punish the FAI volunteers, who like the GAA go out on Saturday mornings to coach and organize kids. Punish for the wrong doings of some corporate "heads" in the Abbotstown Hq. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 16/04/2019 12:32:26 2179102 Link 0 |
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The Irish media has not "chased this story like a dog". Anyone with even a passing interest in soccer in this country has known about the issues surrounding Delaney and the board. Its been an open secret regarding his giving out of grant money to keep ppl sweet as well as his own extravagant spending. The media has been extremely quiet on this issue until on media outlet, the Sunday Times, forced everyone else to finally cover the story. It is laughable to suggest that the Irish media has been chasing this story. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 16/04/2019 12:39:55 2179108 Link 3 |
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There are warnings for GAA units at all levels here. Years ago a trusted pillar of the community would receive money to be spent on the local sports club/church/charity. Despite some taking advantage and abusing the lack of control these people were honourable and funds were looked after. There lurked behind it a real fear of what would happen if someone got a bad name. Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 16/04/2019 12:51:35 2179115 Link 0 |
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How much money do you think comes down to volunteers on a saturday morning? As someone who is involved in underage coaching there is zero money that comes down from these bodies. Grants etc comes from other agencies and charities.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 16/04/2019 13:00:38 2179116 Link 0 |
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I haven't looked in to the minutiae of the situation because I've very little interest in soccer but in any body dependent on public funding good corporate governance should be a given. It seems there were some very dubious financial practices within the FAI and now these have been brought to light the response has been wholly inadequate. If even some of what I have heard about Delaney's crazy spending is true then root and branch reform is needed, including a partial clear out of the board (this seems to be underway already). Sport Ireland are right to suspend the funding temporarily and force change. The FAI could dig their heels in and drag it out forever otherwise. Ideally you would provide enough funding throughout the process to keep the boots on the ground so to speak and complete any audits needed in a timely manner. I'm sure there is some abuse of funds within the GAA too but you will always find some in an organisation that size, they are mostly very well run though IMO. Their financial statements are strong and they have done a great job commercialising the popularity of the games. There is certainly work to be done in some areas, I think we would all love to see more supports in the traditionally less successful counties to help drive more competitive games. Championship restructuring should go hand in hand with this. We are lucky to have the GAA in Ireland as much as we all like to give out about them. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 16/04/2019 13:50:40 2179127 Link 5 |
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The FAI aren't the first NGB to have their funding withheld or cut by Sport Ireland and they won't be the last. if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 16/04/2019 14:15:42 2179131 Link 0 |
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wait till yis hear about the racket behind pairc ui chaoimh. I heard the gaa uppers behind this will make delaney look like a saint...time will tell (if it ever comes out) but that's what i heard and it wouldn't surprise me...This country is a disgrace - there must've been hundreds of people that knew about the delaney thing. MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 180 - 16/04/2019 15:00:32 2179136 Link 0 |
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No sympathy for Delaney whatsoever but you dont have to go too far back to see politicians/media putting the crosshairs on the GAA. I'd say at least 90% of GAA people were in favour of the Liam Millar testimonial taking place in Pairc Ui Chaoimh but it was portrayed by the media as if the initial refusal was a biggotted thing instead of a situation where the GAA were tied by their own rules and there was plenty of talk by politicians about withholding grants etc to the GAA as if indeed it was all about bigotry.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 16/04/2019 16:54:08 2179155 Link 0 |
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Well done to the Sunday Times. (yet again) KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 16/04/2019 18:05:27 2179171 Link 0 |
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Both Damien Duff and Stephen Kenny made smart comments about the GAA over the Liam Millar match, with references to dinosaurs. Both men should have been aware of the widespread concerns over many years relating to the FAI finances but I don't recall either of them expressing any misgivings about their own organisation. They appear to have opted to stick their heads in the sand and had a pop at the GAA instead. I wonder what would they have to say about the FAI now.
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 542 - 16/04/2019 18:50:54 2179176 Link 0 |