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Only yanking your chain furlong, you're a good suld scribe!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7701 - 16/04/2019 18:07:22    2179172

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Replying To thelongridge:  "You must be near Rhode, Royal Dunne. The. county boundary comes in to Garr, and Castlejordan is also on the border. Clonmore Harps play in Offaly, but are part of Ballinabrackey parish in Meath."
Don't mention the war. I was a young lad when Clonmore Harps was formed. Jesus there was uproar. Castlejordan was the Ns I went to.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16566 - 16/04/2019 19:06:14    2179177

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Replying To realdub:  "Only yanking your chain furlong, you're a good suld scribe!"
Thanks for the comments realdub. I appreciate it. Your a gentleman.

To tell u truth the most important leinster championship for Meath this year is probaly under 20. We wud love to get senior final. But under 20 is really important. We have a team made up of two minor leinster winning teams so we should be strong . But u never know with young lads. But we need to start winning under 20 titles. We wouldnt win senior but under 20 is very important. And its a real competitive championship. Kildare will be strong again with All Ireland winners on the team. Dublin are always strong at this grade . And Offaly are improving. Good work is being done in Wicklow and louth at underage currently. The senior championship is dead but leinster is really competitive at underage. We r hoping big things for minors this year alao. Their rated as the best of our minor team of last few years. But again u never know with minor lads. Many a strong team was fancied at the start of the minor championship but collasped when the championship began. But hopes wud be high in Meath for both underage teams this year. But u never know. But under 20 leinster championship is very important for us this year, but kildare and Dublin will also be strong so looking really forward to that leinster championship. Its a proper leinster championship were u have couple of contenders for the title.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 968 - 16/04/2019 19:40:24    2179183

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Replying To KildareKelly:  "Can't argue with that Furlong. That would be my understanding too. Clane is the main reason.

On a side note, there's never been a great Kildare team without a strong Clane influence. (5 starters in the 1998 team as an example) Have been going through one of the poorest spells in the club's history at senior level but some very good underage teams at the minute so hopefully back at the top in Kildare & filling the county team soon."
Yep Clane is one of the great kildare clubs. I always feel theres one club thats like spiritual club for a county. The top club in that county might not have most club titles, but is essential to county teams sucess , Where so many great players come from. While Moorfield and Sarsfield have been real superpowers in kildare club football recently , for me an outsider looking in Clane is kildares greatest and most important club for the county. I cud be wrong but I always think theres club in every county that has been so important in terms of delivering to the inter county team . In Kildare traditionaly that wud be Clane. But I could open to correction on that. U kildare lads no more about the club scene in kildare. I think there was 8 Clane players on kildares first All Ireland in 1905. Another great Clane team in the 60s. Of course in 90s with Martin lynch there was 6 Clane lads in 98 with kildare and I remember in 97 when we played u guys there was 9 Clane players on kildare panel.

In Meath while Navan clubs have been most sucessful Skyrne in my view greatest club in Meath football. Produced probaly greatest Meath team ever club in 1940s winning 6 club titles in 8 years . And of course players like Paddy O Brien Colm O Rourke Trevor Giles Liam Hayes and John McDermont all played for Skyrne. No Meath team has won an All Ireland with out Skyrne player on team and every Meath team which won a title had a Skyrne on it. Daragh Campion is the only Skyrne player on current Meath panel. But Skyrne is situated in the Tara Skyrne valley. So Tara was always going to be spiritual home of Meath football.

It always fascinates what Club is the greatest in each county in terms of not titles but of producing great players and having impact on county team. In Dublins St Vincents seems to be Dublin most important club. In Offaly its Rhodes , In Cork its Nemo Rangers, In Armagh of course its Crossmaglen , In Kerry would it be Austin Stacks. In Galway ot course Corofin is the great modern Galway club but Tuam Star would be Galways most important club with Ja Fallen Sean Purcell and Frank Stockwell and great Tuam teams of 1940s and 1950s.

I am open to correction on all the above. But what is louths most important club or Tyrones or Donegals or Mayos or Tippearey or Westmeath or Wexford. It has always interested me and I wud be interested in what people inside those counties think.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 968 - 16/04/2019 20:03:13    2179185

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Yep Clane is one of the great kildare clubs. I always feel theres one club thats like spiritual club for a county. The top club in that county might not have most club titles, but is essential to county teams sucess , Where so many great players come from. While Moorfield and Sarsfield have been real superpowers in kildare club football recently , for me an outsider looking in Clane is kildares greatest and most important club for the county. I cud be wrong but I always think theres club in every county that has been so important in terms of delivering to the inter county team . In Kildare traditionaly that wud be Clane. But I could open to correction on that. U kildare lads no more about the club scene in kildare. I think there was 8 Clane players on kildares first All Ireland in 1905. Another great Clane team in the 60s. Of course in 90s with Martin lynch there was 6 Clane lads in 98 with kildare and I remember in 97 when we played u guys there was 9 Clane players on kildare panel.

In Meath while Navan clubs have been most sucessful Skyrne in my view greatest club in Meath football. Produced probaly greatest Meath team ever club in 1940s winning 6 club titles in 8 years . And of course players like Paddy O Brien Colm O Rourke Trevor Giles Liam Hayes and John McDermont all played for Skyrne. No Meath team has won an All Ireland with out Skyrne player on team and every Meath team which won a title had a Skyrne on it. Daragh Campion is the only Skyrne player on current Meath panel. But Skyrne is situated in the Tara Skyrne valley. So Tara was always going to be spiritual home of Meath football.

It always fascinates what Club is the greatest in each county in terms of not titles but of producing great players and having impact on county team. In Dublins St Vincents seems to be Dublin most important club. In Offaly its Rhodes , In Cork its Nemo Rangers, In Armagh of course its Crossmaglen , In Kerry would it be Austin Stacks. In Galway ot course Corofin is the great modern Galway club but Tuam Star would be Galways most important club with Ja Fallen Sean Purcell and Frank Stockwell and great Tuam teams of 1940s and 1950s.

I am open to correction on all the above. But what is louths most important club or Tyrones or Donegals or Mayos or Tippearey or Westmeath or Wexford. It has always interested me and I wud be interested in what people inside those counties think."
Furlong the Newtown Blues club in Drogheda is Louth's most successful club with 22 Senior titles. The Blues are always there or there abouts. They currently have six players on the Louth panel with five of these starting in the first 15. They are going for the three in a row this year. The last club to do this were Cooley Kickhams in the 1970's. Next on the list would be Dundalk Young Ireland's and Ardee St Marys. Both clubs have 11 Senior titles each. Dundalk Young Ireland's last won the Senior title in 1979 while the Mary's last won it in 1995. The great Dermot O Brien who was the last Wee County Captain to lift Sam in 1957 played with the Marys. Last but not least is the Cooley Kickhams who have won 9 Senior titles but have not won it since 1990 are currently playing their second season in the Inter Championship. They are the only Louth club to play in a Leinster Senior club final twice.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 16/04/2019 20:46:12    2179186

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Ollie, surely Ardee is the spiritual home of Louth football.

Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 16/04/2019 20:54:32    2179188

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Replying To Triple H:  "Ollie, surely Ardee is the spiritual home of Louth football."
St Mary's are the great underachievers Triple H. Only one senior title in the last 44 years.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 16/04/2019 20:59:35    2179190

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Suspect that you are a Blues man Ollie. But Louth were good when Marys were good. Some of the best club players from recent winners of the Joe Ward Cup may not have been committed to the Louth cause.

Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 16/04/2019 21:11:26    2179193

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Replying To OLLIE:  "Furlong the Newtown Blues club in Drogheda is Louth's most successful club with 22 Senior titles. The Blues are always there or there abouts. They currently have six players on the Louth panel with five of these starting in the first 15. They are going for the three in a row this year. The last club to do this were Cooley Kickhams in the 1970's. Next on the list would be Dundalk Young Ireland's and Ardee St Marys. Both clubs have 11 Senior titles each. Dundalk Young Ireland's last won the Senior title in 1979 while the Mary's last won it in 1995. The great Dermot O Brien who was the last Wee County Captain to lift Sam in 1957 played with the Marys. Last but not least is the Cooley Kickhams who have won 9 Senior titles but have not won it since 1990 are currently playing their second season in the Inter Championship. They are the only Louth club to play in a Leinster Senior club final twice."
So Ollie Newtown Blues in louth is louth most important club.
Again it doesnt not have to be the club with most titles its the club thats contributed most to the inter county team over decades. The spiritual home of football in the county. I dont know what is the actual title. But I get the feeling everyone knows what I mean.
So
Meath Skyrne
Kildare Clane
Louth Newtown Blues
Dublin St Vincents
Wicklow Rathnew or Baltinglass ?
Laois Portlaoise
Offaly Rhodes
Westmeath ? Garycastle ? Mullingar Shamrocks St lomans
Longford longford Slashers ?
Carlow Eire Og ?
Wexford ?

So thats my list for leinster but I am open to correction. Westmeath I dont which club. Carlow cud O Hanarahans or Eire Og or someone else. Wicklow is probaly Rathnew but Baltinglass could be the one. Wexford I dont know.
Other counties Mayo is interesting one. Kerry I ask so many kerry people who is kerrys greatest club for the county I always get different answers eg Austin Stacks Laurne Rangers Dr Crokes South kerry Karins O Rahillys. Kerry is a tough one.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 968 - 16/04/2019 21:12:39    2179194

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Replying To Triple H:  "Suspect that you are a Blues man Ollie. But Louth were good when Marys were good. Some of the best club players from recent winners of the Joe Ward Cup may not have been committed to the Louth cause."
Haha Triple H you may suspect again. To me the best club side in Louth in the past 30 years were the Pats. They won their maiden Senior title in 2003 when ironically they beat the Marys after a replay. They won 7 titles between 2003 and 2015 and of course they had our Wee Captain Leader and hero the great Paddy Keenan.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 16/04/2019 21:28:56    2179197

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "So Ollie Newtown Blues in louth is louth most important club.
Again it doesnt not have to be the club with most titles its the club thats contributed most to the inter county team over decades. The spiritual home of football in the county. I dont know what is the actual title. But I get the feeling everyone knows what I mean.
So
Meath Skyrne
Kildare Clane
Louth Newtown Blues
Dublin St Vincents
Wicklow Rathnew or Baltinglass ?
Laois Portlaoise
Offaly Rhodes
Westmeath ? Garycastle ? Mullingar Shamrocks St lomans
Longford longford Slashers ?
Carlow Eire Og ?
Wexford ?

So thats my list for leinster but I am open to correction. Westmeath I dont which club. Carlow cud O Hanarahans or Eire Og or someone else. Wicklow is probaly Rathnew but Baltinglass could be the one. Wexford I dont know.
Other counties Mayo is interesting one. Kerry I ask so many kerry people who is kerrys greatest club for the county I always get different answers eg Austin Stacks Laurne Rangers Dr Crokes South kerry Karins O Rahillys. Kerry is a tough one."
Furlong at the moment the Blues have six players on the Louth panel. I cannot remember them having that many players on the Louth squad at the same time. Are they the most important? Well if you are a Blues supporter you are gonna say yes.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 16/04/2019 21:32:35    2179198

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Did I see Kildare play a challenge game against Roscommon tonight, surely they must have gotten permission from the GAA.

Surprised though given some of the sanctions over training during the club month last year.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3350 - 16/04/2019 22:29:12    2179207

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Did I see Kildare play a challenge game against Roscommon tonight, surely they must have gotten permission from the GAA.

Surprised though given some of the sanctions over training during the club month last year."
There's a few challenges going on Meath have on v Roscommon too and one v Cavan. Every county has them as far as I'm aware

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16566 - 17/04/2019 08:47:43    2179222

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I might have the wrong of it, weren't Waterford, Wexford and Laois sanctioned last year, for training during April. Seems odd that counties can play challenge game, surely its the same principal.

Like i say im sure these counties have looked into it and it must be allowed, but just seems a bit silly that you can play games and not train. Im going from memory not sure on the exact rule wording, maybe its oversees training or a training period.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3350 - 17/04/2019 10:39:28    2179255

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Replying To TheUsername:  "I might have the wrong of it, weren't Waterford, Wexford and Laois sanctioned last year, for training during April. Seems odd that counties can play challenge game, surely its the same principal.

Like i say im sure these counties have looked into it and it must be allowed, but just seems a bit silly that you can play games and not train. Im going from memory not sure on the exact rule wording, maybe its oversees training or a training period."
Laois had to play their home match in the League against Louth in Croke Park because of this at the start of February. Laois lost this match but it did not matter in the end because they got promoted.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 17/04/2019 13:03:44    2179278

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Replying To TheUsername:  "I might have the wrong of it, weren't Waterford, Wexford and Laois sanctioned last year, for training during April. Seems odd that counties can play challenge game, surely its the same principal.

Like i say im sure these counties have looked into it and it must be allowed, but just seems a bit silly that you can play games and not train. Im going from memory not sure on the exact rule wording, maybe its oversees training or a training period."
I think the games have to be sanctioned by hq. Then they ok. It's regarded as ok for opening of pitches etc. could be wrong but that is my understanding of it

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16566 - 17/04/2019 14:44:05    2179292

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Yep Clane is one of the great kildare clubs. I always feel theres one club thats like spiritual club for a county. The top club in that county might not have most club titles, but is essential to county teams sucess , Where so many great players come from. While Moorfield and Sarsfield have been real superpowers in kildare club football recently , for me an outsider looking in Clane is kildares greatest and most important club for the county. I cud be wrong but I always think theres club in every county that has been so important in terms of delivering to the inter county team . In Kildare traditionaly that wud be Clane. But I could open to correction on that. U kildare lads no more about the club scene in kildare. I think there was 8 Clane players on kildares first All Ireland in 1905. Another great Clane team in the 60s. Of course in 90s with Martin lynch there was 6 Clane lads in 98 with kildare and I remember in 97 when we played u guys there was 9 Clane players on kildare panel.

In Meath while Navan clubs have been most sucessful Skyrne in my view greatest club in Meath football. Produced probaly greatest Meath team ever club in 1940s winning 6 club titles in 8 years . And of course players like Paddy O Brien Colm O Rourke Trevor Giles Liam Hayes and John McDermont all played for Skyrne. No Meath team has won an All Ireland with out Skyrne player on team and every Meath team which won a title had a Skyrne on it. Daragh Campion is the only Skyrne player on current Meath panel. But Skyrne is situated in the Tara Skyrne valley. So Tara was always going to be spiritual home of Meath football.

It always fascinates what Club is the greatest in each county in terms of not titles but of producing great players and having impact on county team. In Dublins St Vincents seems to be Dublin most important club. In Offaly its Rhodes , In Cork its Nemo Rangers, In Armagh of course its Crossmaglen , In Kerry would it be Austin Stacks. In Galway ot course Corofin is the great modern Galway club but Tuam Star would be Galways most important club with Ja Fallen Sean Purcell and Frank Stockwell and great Tuam teams of 1940s and 1950s.

I am open to correction on all the above. But what is louths most important club or Tyrones or Donegals or Mayos or Tippearey or Westmeath or Wexford. It has always interested me and I wud be interested in what people inside those counties think."
Yes Clane would be regarded as a traditional power in Kildare supplying many players to the county team over the years. They haven't won a senior championship since 1997 BUT have been successful recently at underage.
You're correct Furlong that Clane supplied 8 of the team that won the 1905 All-Ireland (played in 1907)
The rest of the team was made up of Sarsfields players.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2966 - 17/04/2019 16:33:53    2179314

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "So Ollie Newtown Blues in louth is louth most important club.
Again it doesnt not have to be the club with most titles its the club thats contributed most to the inter county team over decades. The spiritual home of football in the county. I dont know what is the actual title. But I get the feeling everyone knows what I mean.
So
Meath Skyrne
Kildare Clane
Louth Newtown Blues
Dublin St Vincents
Wicklow Rathnew or Baltinglass ?
Laois Portlaoise
Offaly Rhodes
Westmeath ? Garycastle ? Mullingar Shamrocks St lomans
Longford longford Slashers ?
Carlow Eire Og ?
Wexford ?

So thats my list for leinster but I am open to correction. Westmeath I dont which club. Carlow cud O Hanarahans or Eire Og or someone else. Wicklow is probaly Rathnew but Baltinglass could be the one. Wexford I dont know.
Other counties Mayo is interesting one. Kerry I ask so many kerry people who is kerrys greatest club for the county I always get different answers eg Austin Stacks Laurne Rangers Dr Crokes South kerry Karins O Rahillys. Kerry is a tough one."
Furlong. It's Rhode in Offaly, no s. They have 29 Offaly SF titles, ranging from 1900 to 2018. Tullamore were tops in Offaly with 27 titles, but Rhode overtook them in latter years.
The club have always supplied players to Offaly in good times and bad, more of the latter now sadly

Paddy McCormack, although strictly speaking a Croghan Man, along with the late Mick Casey star of the 50's and 60's. Seamus and Stephen Darby, Eugene Mulligan, Martin Heavey, and Johnny Mooney from the 1970's and 1980's, up to the present team.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1215 - 18/04/2019 11:18:08    2179421

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Furlong. It's Rhode in Offaly, no s. They have 29 Offaly SF titles, ranging from 1900 to 2018. Tullamore were tops in Offaly with 27 titles, but Rhode overtook them in latter years.
The club have always supplied players to Offaly in good times and bad, more of the latter now sadly

Paddy McCormack, although strictly speaking a Croghan Man, along with the late Mick Casey star of the 50's and 60's. Seamus and Stephen Darby, Eugene Mulligan, Martin Heavey, and Johnny Mooney from the 1970's and 1980's, up to the present team."
I had the pleasure of meeting Paddy McCormack a few years ago in the Carbury clubhouse on the occasion of a tribute night for Kildare's first All Star and longtime goalkeeper Ollie Crinnigan.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2966 - 18/04/2019 16:44:25    2179466

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "So Ollie Newtown Blues in louth is louth most important club.
Again it doesnt not have to be the club with most titles its the club thats contributed most to the inter county team over decades. The spiritual home of football in the county. I dont know what is the actual title. But I get the feeling everyone knows what I mean.
So
Meath Skyrne
Kildare Clane
Louth Newtown Blues
Dublin St Vincents
Wicklow Rathnew or Baltinglass ?
Laois Portlaoise
Offaly Rhodes
Westmeath ? Garycastle ? Mullingar Shamrocks St lomans
Longford longford Slashers ?
Carlow Eire Og ?
Wexford ?

So thats my list for leinster but I am open to correction. Westmeath I dont which club. Carlow cud O Hanarahans or Eire Og or someone else. Wicklow is probaly Rathnew but Baltinglass could be the one. Wexford I dont know.
Other counties Mayo is interesting one. Kerry I ask so many kerry people who is kerrys greatest club for the county I always get different answers eg Austin Stacks Laurne Rangers Dr Crokes South kerry Karins O Rahillys. Kerry is a tough one."
Garrycastle have indeed supplied many great players to Westmeath even though they were only formed in 1981

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 852 - 18/04/2019 20:54:32    2179495

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