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I see where there's another season of the show in the works again this year. Surely enough is enough after the way it ended last year. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 600 - 01/04/2019 13:14:02    2176965

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They should do a hurling one. It might generate more interest amongst players.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 796 - 01/04/2019 13:25:41    2176970

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Needs a new format badly. Back in 2004 or whenever season 1 was it was quite conceivable that there were a bunch of players out there who had slipped through the county net or had been away etc and the gap between a very good club player and a county player back then fitness and S&C wise wasn't as large as the absolute cavern it is today. Go to any senior club match these days and you can usually pick the county lads out because they look like international rugby centres and the club lads look like normal athletes. There is no way on earth you can get 15 good club players/former u21 county lads together to take on the likes of Dublin or Kerry today and not get absolutely ate.

Maybe something like a bunch of lads who have never played in their own SFC ie intermediate and junior players could take on an established club powerhouse. That way you could have good county lads who happen to play for an intermediate club taking on a St Vincents or someone.

kazoochka (Galway) - Posts: 216 - 01/04/2019 14:21:24    2176986

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I still enjoyed last year's show despite them barely winning a game and getting hammered by Dublin's 3rd team.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 1624 - 01/04/2019 14:24:28    2176988

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Replying To gaelicgab:  "They should do a hurling one. It might generate more interest amongst players."
Dont think it could work. The gulf in class would be much wider than in football and a hurling underdogs team would require a longer period of intensive training to get them anywhere near being competitive.

But what would be interesting would be a documentary on hurling teams from the Ring, Rackard, and Meagher competitions and to follow them over the course of a season or a year. Say Mayo, Sligo, Donegal, Tyrone, Longford hurlers. It would give a bit of exposure to such teams and some recognition, probably see greater dedication to training and interest with the tv cameras present , and make people from within those counties realise if they didnt before, that they have real hurlers within their midst.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1255 - 01/04/2019 17:43:35    2177047

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How about a team from each province?

A few build-up shows where they play challenges before the final squad is named, then 2 semi-finals and a final.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3506 - 01/04/2019 18:11:53    2177055

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Dont think it could work. The gulf in class would be much wider than in football and a hurling underdogs team would require a longer period of intensive training to get them anywhere near being competitive.

But what would be interesting would be a documentary on hurling teams from the Ring, Rackard, and Meagher competitions and to follow them over the course of a season or a year. Say Mayo, Sligo, Donegal, Tyrone, Longford hurlers. It would give a bit of exposure to such teams and some recognition, probably see greater dedication to training and interest with the tv cameras present , and make people from within those counties realise if they didnt before, that they have real hurlers within their midst."
That would be well worth a shot, those teams are the real underdogs.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 600 - 01/04/2019 22:58:56    2177146

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Maybe be a little less ambitious and play the final against the All Ireland Junior club champions. Not wanting to sound too harsh but most senior club sides would destroy them, if last years programme was anything to go by.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1009 - 02/04/2019 00:08:25    2177156

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Maybe they could keep the current format if they are a bit cuter with the calibre of player they try to bring in. Instead of leaving it to chance to what lads will turn up for a trial, the selectors should pick the best club players from their own county and ask other former players who would have a good knowledge of the club scene for the best players in their county. If they could get that calibre of player they might have a chance because it is second and third string county teams they are going up against, although I know these are still strong.

Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 217 - 04/04/2019 20:27:04    2177746

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Time to call it off

The_Biler (Westmeath) - Posts: 84 - 04/04/2019 20:59:14    2177750

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I think it'd be better suited to unearth some hurlers from weaker counties and give them a game against a D1 team. The gulf in my class is huge. However, you'd have to use county lads. Still think it would be nice to see the best players who never get to shine as hurling is such an elite quality sport,

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 113 - 08/04/2019 12:14:26    2178033

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I still enjoy it!

BigJohn.6_8 (Galway) - Posts: 704 - 08/04/2019 16:05:02    2178071

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Replying To kazoochka:  "Needs a new format badly. Back in 2004 or whenever season 1 was it was quite conceivable that there were a bunch of players out there who had slipped through the county net or had been away etc and the gap between a very good club player and a county player back then fitness and S&C wise wasn't as large as the absolute cavern it is today. Go to any senior club match these days and you can usually pick the county lads out because they look like international rugby centres and the club lads look like normal athletes. There is no way on earth you can get 15 good club players/former u21 county lads together to take on the likes of Dublin or Kerry today and not get absolutely ate.

Maybe something like a bunch of lads who have never played in their own SFC ie intermediate and junior players could take on an established club powerhouse. That way you could have good county lads who happen to play for an intermediate club taking on a St Vincents or someone."
Maybe Ronan Steede and Martin Farragher-enough Galway lads calling for them to be involved with County panel

fairplay4ever (Galway) - Posts: 311 - 08/04/2019 16:45:35    2178075

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Just enter the Kerry team, they're always the underdog for everyone of their fixtures according to some posters on here :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7515 - 08/04/2019 18:10:02    2178084

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