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Tyrone Vs Cavan

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How does everyone see this going? Two good results for both teams fighting the drop last week. Can see a tight game but Tyrone edging it by 1-2 points unfortunately.

westcavankid (Cavan) - Posts: 77 - 28/02/2019 14:16:25    2168893

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Replying To westcavankid:  "How does everyone see this going? Two good results for both teams fighting the drop last week. Can see a tight game but Tyrone edging it by 1-2 points unfortunately."
Massive game. Cavan looled absolutely superb and were a breath of fresh air against roscommon.

I've predicted it in the other thread and am going to stick with it, cavan to win with Tyrone unable to manage cavans unpredictability and tenacious attitude. Graham has made a significant difference and is extremely unfortunate to only have 2 points so far. Cavan seem able to mix it up nicely and I think Tyrone are too rigid to cope with this. Cavan also wont let Tyrone wander up the pitch without a glove put on them and kick nice points from 20 yards like they done last week.

I also said on the other thread that I can see a few 'big teams' in real relegation trouble come round 7. This match may add to that......

Cavan by 3

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 101 - 28/02/2019 14:39:02    2168899

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I haven't seen Cavan play since last summer but I reckon if Tyrone perform they will win by 3-4 points. The rejuvenated display against Monaghan impressed me.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 143 - 28/02/2019 15:07:50    2168904

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Replying To OGarmaile:  "I haven't seen Cavan play since last summer but I reckon if Tyrone perform they will win by 3-4 points. The rejuvenated display against Monaghan impressed me."
Yeah, if Tyrone perform like they did against Monaghan they should get over the line. They are starting to play with more attacking flair and will hopefully get the two points. they certainly need them, loser in big trouble.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1689 - 28/02/2019 15:17:13    2168906

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'Attacking flair' and 'Tyrone' arent terms you generally associate together!

I fear the Tyrone supporters may be losing perspective slightly after a facile win over Monaghan where the opposition played directly Into their hands and allowed themselves to be swallowed up and hit on the counter.

The game v Monaghan could not have been scripted better from a Tyrone perspective. I don't think Graham will be this naive and will set cavan up accordingly. If cavan are brave and don't allow Tyrone to do what tyrone do (defend en masse then a few athletes sprinting forward) I can see cavan taking the spoils.

Id fear for Tyrone if they go behind early as they don't seem great at chasing a deficit and it could be a loooong evening for them.

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 101 - 28/02/2019 15:28:09    2168908

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Replying To tulachmhór:  "'Attacking flair' and 'Tyrone' arent terms you generally associate together!

I fear the Tyrone supporters may be losing perspective slightly after a facile win over Monaghan where the opposition played directly Into their hands and allowed themselves to be swallowed up and hit on the counter.

The game v Monaghan could not have been scripted better from a Tyrone perspective. I don't think Graham will be this naive and will set cavan up accordingly. If cavan are brave and don't allow Tyrone to do what tyrone do (defend en masse then a few athletes sprinting forward) I can see cavan taking the spoils.

Id fear for Tyrone if they go behind early as they don't seem great at chasing a deficit and it could be a loooong evening for them."
Don't believe everything you read about Tyrone on Twitter etc.

You seem very confidant on a Cavan win, you know something we don't? You betting on them?

I do agree Monaghan were poor but was it a case we made Monaghan look poor?

I suppose if Offaly had a few athletes and knew how to defend they wouldn't be in div 3.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1689 - 28/02/2019 15:48:40    2168914

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Don't believe everything you read about Tyrone on Twitter etc.

You seem very confidant on a Cavan win, you know something we don't? You betting on them?

I do agree Monaghan were poor but was it a case we made Monaghan look poor?

I suppose if Offaly had a few athletes and knew how to defend they wouldn't be in div 3."
I think waterford would have made Monaghan 'look poor' last week. And yes, I do fancy a few € on the cavan boys! Great odds all things considered.

Maybe you're right about offaly. Still though, we're in with a fighting chance of promotion so who is to rule out an offaly v Tyrone league clash next year? I know Tyrone cant rule it out yet.

Back to the game, will tyrones full back line be able to deal with the occasional high ball thrown in on top of them? Morgan is looking classy all year but sometimes he looks like an accident waiting to happen so it may be a tactic following on from last week to throw a few high balls in?

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 101 - 28/02/2019 15:59:46    2168915

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Don't believe everything you read about Tyrone on Twitter etc.

You seem very confidant on a Cavan win, you know something we don't? You betting on them?

I do agree Monaghan were poor but was it a case we made Monaghan look poor?

I suppose if Offaly had a few athletes and knew how to defend they wouldn't be in div 3."
Why the dig at his home county when he never mentioned it? Don't be so precious...

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 938 - 28/02/2019 16:32:31    2168919

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Why the dig at his home county when he never mentioned it? Don't be so precious..."
Trust me, Tyrone has been though every criticism from most pundits over the years. So sometimes we can be a "precious".

"don't allow Tyrone to do what tyrone do (defend en masse then a few athletes sprinting forward)" was the statement made, this is a factually incorrect statement, so I replied to that. And what I said is true, Offaly have been criticised for not been fit and if they had a better defensive structure they who get where they want to be quicker.

Wouldn't surprise me if we were in div 2 next year, I'd say it's 50/50.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1689 - 28/02/2019 17:55:11    2168934

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Trust me, Tyrone has been though every criticism from most pundits over the years. So sometimes we can be a "precious".

"don't allow Tyrone to do what tyrone do (defend en masse then a few athletes sprinting forward)" was the statement made, this is a factually incorrect statement, so I replied to that. And what I said is true, Offaly have been criticised for not been fit and if they had a better defensive structure they who get where they want to be quicker.

Wouldn't surprise me if we were in div 2 next year, I'd say it's 50/50."
Bit of a stretch to say that my statement is 'factually incorrect' is it not? What parts of it are incorrect?

To add a different angle on it, would it not be fair to say that if ye did have more to your game than what I highlighted you wouldn't be staring down the barrel of division 2?

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 101 - 28/02/2019 21:35:31    2168999

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Like last year Tyrone started this years league badly. After the break in the league they were better last year and I expect the same to happen this year and Tyrone to win this weekend. That said the league and the way teams are preparing for it are hard to work out. I did not recognise Monahan last week at all they were so poor and looked very heavy legged. I think Tyrone may have missed an opportunity to have a go at the league but their training schedule for the year may not allow for this and so staying in Division 1 is the best they can achieve.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1598 - 01/03/2019 08:48:39    2169049

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I think this will be a good encounter. The media forget how effective we can be when we are playing well. It hasn't been a great league campaign but I think we have turned a corner after Monaghan, who have been consistently much better than Cavan, for years. Cavan have some dangerous forwards like Reilly, Mackey and McVeety but our panel should be able to kill this game and get us to 5 points. I suspect any team will need 6 to stay up and I know for sure we aren't getting any at Croke Park on Paddy's weekend. This division relegation fight is going down to the wire.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 143 - 01/03/2019 10:09:04    2169068

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Replying To OGarmaile:  "I think this will be a good encounter. The media forget how effective we can be when we are playing well. It hasn't been a great league campaign but I think we have turned a corner after Monaghan, who have been consistently much better than Cavan, for years. Cavan have some dangerous forwards like Reilly, Mackey and McVeety but our panel should be able to kill this game and get us to 5 points. I suspect any team will need 6 to stay up and I know for sure we aren't getting any at Croke Park on Paddy's weekend. This division relegation fight is going down to the wire."
I have a feeling 5 points might be enough for teams to stay up but you can never be sure. I think home advantage will be pivotal in this encounter and while Cavan's defence has been playing pretty good till now, if Tyrone click they will be hard to stick with. Despite the 3 goals last week Cavan have struggled for scores this season, especially goals. I feel they will need one or two this weekend to be in with a chance.

westcavankid (Cavan) - Posts: 77 - 01/03/2019 10:52:16    2169082

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I don't like this lazy narrative that Tyrone are defensive. They kicked a lot more in All Ireland final than Dublin and it was a few minute spell that killed them. The best All Ireland final I remember was 2008. The puke football was a high press and not anything like a blanket. Same thing is happening Fermanagh. Tomas O Se criticising their play even though he hasn't seen them play this year. They scored 8 points from play in second half last week. So negative.

As for the game I think Tyrone will win but might be tight. Cavan are moving in right direction and even put it up to Tyrone in qualifiers last year.

The only antic I never liked seeing from Tyrone was two years ago when Cavan were well ahead at half time and Raymond Galligan killing Tyrone with kickouts so Tyrone put someone behind goals to throw balls out as he was taking kickouts.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1443 - 01/03/2019 11:02:46    2169085

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Replying To westcavankid:  "I have a feeling 5 points might be enough for teams to stay up but you can never be sure. I think home advantage will be pivotal in this encounter and while Cavan's defence has been playing pretty good till now, if Tyrone click they will be hard to stick with. Despite the 3 goals last week Cavan have struggled for scores this season, especially goals. I feel they will need one or two this weekend to be in with a chance."
Ye'd be very unlucky if they clicked this weekend, it's over a decade since they last clicked.

If anyone is clicking I think cavan might be. They were fierce unlucky in the first few games but the win last week will have released the pressure valve and the shackles are now off. I hope they don't take their eyes off the ball looking forward to the Monaghan game and the potential ramifications of that one. Beat what's in front of them this weekend and move on.

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 101 - 01/03/2019 12:11:48    2169110

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "I don't like this lazy narrative that Tyrone are defensive. They kicked a lot more in All Ireland final than Dublin and it was a few minute spell that killed them. The best All Ireland final I remember was 2008. The puke football was a high press and not anything like a blanket. Same thing is happening Fermanagh. Tomas O Se criticising their play even though he hasn't seen them play this year. They scored 8 points from play in second half last week. So negative.

As for the game I think Tyrone will win but might be tight. Cavan are moving in right direction and even put it up to Tyrone in qualifiers last year.

The only antic I never liked seeing from Tyrone was two years ago when Cavan were well ahead at half time and Raymond Galligan killing Tyrone with kickouts so Tyrone put someone behind goals to throw balls out as he was taking kickouts."
Tyrone used the same antic against Donegal in Championship last year. Had a big lad on the sideline with three or four footballs around the 30 metre mark & when Donegal went behind he kicked the ball onto the field in front of the Donegal keeper when he tried to take a kickout. After three or four of these the fourth official removed him. Was surprised the Donegal bench didn't sort it out sooner.

opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 474 - 01/03/2019 12:19:12    2169112

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Replying To opa01:  "Tyrone used the same antic against Donegal in Championship last year. Had a big lad on the sideline with three or four footballs around the 30 metre mark & when Donegal went behind he kicked the ball onto the field in front of the Donegal keeper when he tried to take a kickout. After three or four of these the fourth official removed him. Was surprised the Donegal bench didn't sort it out sooner."
Yeah I remember Shaun Patton booting a few of the stray Tyrone balls into the Finn at one stage.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6454 - 01/03/2019 14:45:27    2169170

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I see there's a gale force wind and heavy rain tomorrow night. Alls bets are off. Toss of a coin in this game.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1689 - 01/03/2019 21:32:57    2169269

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Yeh the weather can make anything happen unfortunately, but a must win for both counties, Tyrone are a better side, they're at home, and they should win. It will take a monumental Cavan performance to take 2 points here.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7617 - 01/03/2019 21:38:54    2169272

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "I see there's a gale force wind and heavy rain tomorrow night. Alls bets are off. Toss of a coin in this game."
Getting the excuses in early! ; )

Hopefully not as bad as is forecast and should even the game out a tad.

Would not fancy being under one of those high balls in the howling wind and driving rain....!

In all seriousness, hope the weather doesn't prove to be a deciding factor in anyway and spoil it as a spectacle.

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 101 - 01/03/2019 21:52:44    2169278

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