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Are Limerick In The Top 3?

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Jackie Tyrrell claims they are not. I tend to agree with Jackie for me the top 3 contenders would be Clare, Galway and come summer time i think Cork will be a handful. As Jackie said it is extremely hard to repeat if you take Kilkenny out of it the last team to repeat was Cork in 05. Galway and Tipp were world beaters in the league after winning the last 2 All-Irelands and they didn't repeat. Limerick got the breaks last year and fair play to them they took advantage of them, which any team that ever wins a championship has to do but i don't see them lifting the cup this year.

gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 25/02/2019 12:50:50    2167964

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and then people wonder why all they get from managers and players is media bans,cliche's,peddle the same blurb about every opponent,"were under no illusions",etc,etc.
the reaction to jackies opinion is exactly the reason why.
it was just his opinion,he would have got less grief for tax evasion.
move on.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 25/02/2019 13:37:20    2167987

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Replying To gatha:  "Jackie Tyrrell claims they are not. I tend to agree with Jackie for me the top 3 contenders would be Clare, Galway and come summer time i think Cork will be a handful. As Jackie said it is extremely hard to repeat if you take Kilkenny out of it the last team to repeat was Cork in 05. Galway and Tipp were world beaters in the league after winning the last 2 All-Irelands and they didn't repeat. Limerick got the breaks last year and fair play to them they took advantage of them, which any team that ever wins a championship has to do but i don't see them lifting the cup this year."
Currently I dont see any problem with Limerick claiming to be the best team in the country but as contenders I dont think we are number 1 due to how close all the teams are and how unlikely it is have everything go your way 2 years in a row. Any of last years semi finalists could have won last year and I reckon its the same this year.

But the whole thing about being too good in the league is nonsense. If it was kilkenny going strong in the league as AI champions we would all be hearing about Codys winning mentality and the tenacious hunger instilled in the team.

And using Galway as an example is crazy as they were 2 points away from retaining the AI which sounds like top 3 quality to me

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 25/02/2019 13:41:15    2167988

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Replying To gatha:  "Jackie Tyrrell claims they are not. I tend to agree with Jackie for me the top 3 contenders would be Clare, Galway and come summer time i think Cork will be a handful. As Jackie said it is extremely hard to repeat if you take Kilkenny out of it the last team to repeat was Cork in 05. Galway and Tipp were world beaters in the league after winning the last 2 All-Irelands and they didn't repeat. Limerick got the breaks last year and fair play to them they took advantage of them, which any team that ever wins a championship has to do but i don't see them lifting the cup this year."
Galway were no world beaters in the 2018 NHL, barely beating Antrim and Dublin, losing to Limerick for promotion to1a, and to Wexford in qFinal. Remarkable lack of recall required to call that 'world beater' form.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3464 - 25/02/2019 14:21:38    2168012

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Replying To gatha:  "Jackie Tyrrell claims they are not. I tend to agree with Jackie for me the top 3 contenders would be Clare, Galway and come summer time i think Cork will be a handful. As Jackie said it is extremely hard to repeat if you take Kilkenny out of it the last team to repeat was Cork in 05. Galway and Tipp were world beaters in the league after winning the last 2 All-Irelands and they didn't repeat. Limerick got the breaks last year and fair play to them they took advantage of them, which any team that ever wins a championship has to do but i don't see them lifting the cup this year."
Galway were no world beaters in the 2018 NHL, barely beating Antrim and Dublin, losing to Limerick for promotion to1a, and to Wexford in qFinal. Remarkable lack of recall required to call that 'world beater' form.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3464 - 25/02/2019 14:22:49    2168014

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You could throw a blanket over the top 5/6 teams realistically.

Jackie's talk of a Top 3 is silly talk imo.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 25/02/2019 14:54:32    2168028

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It's hard to know who are the Top 3 teams as many teams dont even have their whole panel ready for different reasons. And the 3 best teams NOW are not necessarily the best 3 teams come championship time.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2135 - 25/02/2019 15:01:14    2168032

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Yes. We're amazing.
We're in the top 3.
We're the greatest hurling county ever, proved by winning our second all ireland since Hitler invaded Poland.
Jackie tyrell knows nothing about hurling anyway.

Can this nothing story disappear now. Please!

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1066 - 25/02/2019 15:21:31    2168035

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Replying To MesAmis:  "You could throw a blanket over the top 5/6 teams realistically.

Jackie's talk of a Top 3 is silly talk imo."
The betting has

Galway 3s
Limerick 4s
Tipp and Cork 5s
Kilkenny and Clare 8s.

It looks set up for a good championship.

It's a pretty weird comment from Jackie to be honest.

Limerick are All Ireland champions and not a serious ball has been struck since its hard to say they're not in the top 3. Last year was no fluke and with a young team you would expect progression.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 25/02/2019 15:28:50    2168037

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Replying To Whammo86:  "The betting has

Galway 3s
Limerick 4s
Tipp and Cork 5s
Kilkenny and Clare 8s.

It looks set up for a good championship.

It's a pretty weird comment from Jackie to be honest.

Limerick are All Ireland champions and not a serious ball has been struck since its hard to say they're not in the top 3. Last year was no fluke and with a young team you would expect progression."
Add in Waterford, Wexford to the mix, as in they're fancy their chances of beating all the teams above too.

The Dubs, on their day, would rattle any of the top teams as well imo.

Going to be another glorious summer I think. The only down side is that we'll have to hear so much about it!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 25/02/2019 16:09:02    2168060

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Jackie Tyrell is definitely not in the top 3 when it comes to punditry.
Nobody can dispute the fact that Limerick are the All Ireland champions. They are the top team and will be so until some other team knocks them out of the championship. That won't be an easy feat and may not happen in 2019.
There are 7 teams that could win this years All Ireland:
Limerick, Galway, KK, Clare, Cork Tipp, Waterford.
Two other teams could make the QFs or SF:
Dublin, Wexford.

I can only see one team winning the Football.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 25/02/2019 16:21:16    2168063

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This is Tyrell trying to make himself relevant and controversial for a few headlines Limerick are the champs with Galway next best with 3 or 4 teams queuing up behind them

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 25/02/2019 16:29:23    2168069

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Replying To baire:  "Jackie Tyrell is definitely not in the top 3 when it comes to punditry.
Nobody can dispute the fact that Limerick are the All Ireland champions. They are the top team and will be so until some other team knocks them out of the championship. That won't be an easy feat and may not happen in 2019.
There are 7 teams that could win this years All Ireland:
Limerick, Galway, KK, Clare, Cork Tipp, Waterford.
Two other teams could make the QFs or SF:
Dublin, Wexford.

I can only see one team winning the Football."
7 potential winners and 50/50 games in every munster match alot of leinster matches and everygame from AI quarters on. Very few tournaments could claim to be blessed with that level of competition

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 25/02/2019 16:50:03    2168076

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Add in Waterford, Wexford to the mix, as in they're fancy their chances of beating all the teams above too.

The Dubs, on their day, would rattle any of the top teams as well imo.

Going to be another glorious summer I think. The only down side is that we'll have to hear so much about it!"
Cant see Wexford beating any top team outside of a home game. There too easy to play against, they have a 1 man full 4ward line and struggle to score from out the field. And they'll be burnt out come july from there marine corp training.

Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 25/02/2019 17:03:30    2168081

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Replying To Dec82:  "Cant see Wexford beating any top team outside of a home game. There too easy to play against, they have a 1 man full 4ward line and struggle to score from out the field. And they'll be burnt out come july from there marine corp training."
Are Limerick in the top three? What a strange question. They won the All-Ireland last year and they are number one until further notice. Trying out players during the league like everyone else, but still top of the table with 6 points. The championship is where we'll see the true worth of teams, but until that comes around Limerick are number one. They earned it.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 25/02/2019 19:33:29    2168128

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Replying To Midleton:  "Are Limerick in the top three? What a strange question. They won the All-Ireland last year and they are number one until further notice. Trying out players during the league like everyone else, but still top of the table with 6 points. The championship is where we'll see the true worth of teams, but until that comes around Limerick are number one. They earned it."
I can't argue with that logic.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2135 - 25/02/2019 20:57:04    2168156

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followed this Limerick squad since they were minors...could definitely see the potential to deliver at Senior but as Limerick and Galway will concur, winning minors and U21's are no guarantee of Senior success....Limerick will be like my own Offaly when they were winning, didnt matter what they won, Kilkenny were nearly always favourites for the following years all Ireland..Limerick I feel will be the same...the fact Limerick didnt win Munster too will have the traditionalists doubting their pedigree...I mentioned Aaron Gillane and Kyle Hayes and Cian Lynch just to name a few as outstanding hurlers some years back and so called knowledgeable hurling folk scoffed "Limerick wont win anything"...now they record has changed slightly saying they (Limerick) are "a powerful team" etc...hope Limerick tag a few All Irelands together, they seen enough heartache and lived in the shaddows of TIpp and Cork long enough...they know that too...Waterford would be similar presently, having won a minor All Ireland a few years back, a good few of them players have come through, so they too deserve a break while the iron is hot so to speak..Limerick are deserving All Ireland champions, and are best team in Ireland at the moment, let alone top 3, followed by Galway, Cork, Clare/Waterford probably Ide give joint 4th to, likewise then with Kilkenny/Tipperary...Wexford then...would like to see Wexford inside the top 5 personally...then there are the rest....

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 25/02/2019 23:55:13    2168211

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Replying To gatha:  "Jackie Tyrrell claims they are not. I tend to agree with Jackie for me the top 3 contenders would be Clare, Galway and come summer time i think Cork will be a handful. As Jackie said it is extremely hard to repeat if you take Kilkenny out of it the last team to repeat was Cork in 05. Galway and Tipp were world beaters in the league after winning the last 2 All-Irelands and they didn't repeat. Limerick got the breaks last year and fair play to them they took advantage of them, which any team that ever wins a championship has to do but i don't see them lifting the cup this year."
what aload of horse manure........limerick are allireland champions and are top of the league they are number one team in the country....and will remain there until someone wrestles the liam mccarthy from them.......for me the best team in the country are the liam mccarthy holders in any year end of debate....

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1101 - 26/02/2019 00:04:36    2168213

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Replying To perfect10:  "and then people wonder why all they get from managers and players is media bans,cliche's,peddle the same blurb about every opponent,"were under no illusions",etc,etc.
the reaction to jackies opinion is exactly the reason why.
it was just his opinion,he would have got less grief for tax evasion.
move on."
Just his opinion! Sure the country is full of ppl with opinions - people giving their views without any basis in fact or knowledge. He's says Limerick need a few new players! What an insightful observation! Which county doesn't need new talent every year? Even if a county gets new talent or injury free older talent, who is to say they won't get injured in training or on the field of play, that umpires and linesmen or referees won't make bad calls or no calls at all at critical junctures - there are numerous variables from May-August. Since KK have gone into the chasing pack and three different counties have won the All Ireland in the past three years it's lazy punditry to say that the double is too difficult. That's just my opinion!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 26/02/2019 00:05:59    2168214

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "followed this Limerick squad since they were minors...could definitely see the potential to deliver at Senior but as Limerick and Galway will concur, winning minors and U21's are no guarantee of Senior success....Limerick will be like my own Offaly when they were winning, didnt matter what they won, Kilkenny were nearly always favourites for the following years all Ireland..Limerick I feel will be the same...the fact Limerick didnt win Munster too will have the traditionalists doubting their pedigree...I mentioned Aaron Gillane and Kyle Hayes and Cian Lynch just to name a few as outstanding hurlers some years back and so called knowledgeable hurling folk scoffed "Limerick wont win anything"...now they record has changed slightly saying they (Limerick) are "a powerful team" etc...hope Limerick tag a few All Irelands together, they seen enough heartache and lived in the shaddows of TIpp and Cork long enough...they know that too...Waterford would be similar presently, having won a minor All Ireland a few years back, a good few of them players have come through, so they too deserve a break while the iron is hot so to speak..Limerick are deserving All Ireland champions, and are best team in Ireland at the moment, let alone top 3, followed by Galway, Cork, Clare/Waterford probably Ide give joint 4th to, likewise then with Kilkenny/Tipperary...Wexford then...would like to see Wexford inside the top 5 personally...then there are the rest...."
Limerick as All Ireland champions are Number 1 in the country. That may change after this year's All Ireland Final.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1747 - 26/02/2019 10:39:55    2168268

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