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GAA Clubs Had It Tough In The North During The Troubles

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Just a reminder about what some GAA clubs went through in the North



https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/joe-brolly-i-stood-there-for-ages-soaking-it-all-in-never-prouder-to-be-a-gaa-man-37752543.html

correct (None) - Posts: 84 - 27/01/2019 21:30:02    2160132

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Give us a break. Brolly wheels this stuff out every 2 or 3 weeks. It's nauseating at this stage. He never seems to have a story or tale from the 'other' side.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 28/01/2019 08:55:10    2160225

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Replying To correct:  "Just a reminder about what some GAA clubs went through in the North



https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/joe-brolly-i-stood-there-for-ages-soaking-it-all-in-never-prouder-to-be-a-gaa-man-37752543.html"
It's very important to highlight this and have it recognised. I had read a bit about Naomh Éanna before the semi final, and they have had to deal with some incredible tragedy and hardship.
They have done excellent work up there with the club in very difficult circumstances. I really hope they go on to win the final, as it would be a huge achievement.
As a sidenote on the article, some of Joe's digs at An Spidéal are way off and complete nonsense. His report on the game is like something from a fantasy novel. Naomh Éanna were a much physically stronger team. They packed the defence, turned the ball over numerous times as An Spidéal ran at them and hit on the counter. They have some excellent ball carriers and pacey players. An Spidéal have played an attacking brand of football this year. The Connacht final against Fuerty was a great open game.
Naomh Éanna were much better on the day and very deserving winners. Let's celebrate that without trying to make some kind of heroes and villains piece out of this.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2046 - 28/01/2019 09:25:23    2160238

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Another take on it from a few of the Antrim team of '69 who won the AI U21. No media hungry people in this interview.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/summer-of-69-when-the-city-boys-from-belfast-brought-all-ireland-glory-to-antrim-1.3761773

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 28/01/2019 09:36:57    2160250

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Jaysus, An Spideal are painted like some combination of Glasgow Rangers and Carlow there! Harsh.

CmonAymonow (Laois) - Posts: 160 - 28/01/2019 09:40:49    2160252

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Yeah there always has to be a cartoon villain. Why does everything have to be politicised in his articles. He peddles a republican holier than though agenda all the time that alienates many people. The part where he mentions the guy teaching Irish phrases by writing in dust is particularly bad. It's sad stuff.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 28/01/2019 10:17:26    2160276

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Give us a break. Brolly wheels this stuff out every 2 or 3 weeks. It's nauseating at this stage. He never seems to have a story or tale from the 'other' side."
what other side ? Be more specific -instead of whataboutery!

Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 28/01/2019 10:18:20    2160277

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only Joe could make a tiny connemara club who have surpassed all reasonable expectations in brilliant spirit all year be the villains of the piece when they went into the game as massive underdogs and lost their 2nd best player just before kickoff to injury. The idea an Spidéal are a negative defensive team is absolute fantasy.

kazoochka (Galway) - Posts: 343 - 28/01/2019 12:21:49    2160347

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This was a nasty article towards a small rural club who lifted their community by their heroics this year. They were far from negative and simply met a better team. I was at the match and whilst the Naomh Eanna team conducted themselves with class, the same could not be said for many of their supporters. Interesting that the model of GAA moral decency thought that booing the referee was amusing. Yet again absence of accurate fact does not stop Self Promotion boy from spouting with authority. He has found his level with the paper he writes such nastiness for.

LaLu (Louth) - Posts: 233 - 28/01/2019 12:54:02    2160367

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First and foremost fantastic result for St Enda's, it's wonderful to see, they've gone through a lot.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4239 - 28/01/2019 19:33:32    2160529

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Reminds me of the gammon ripping up the piece of paper on bbc , saying his dad fought the Germans and didn't cower neither will he. Utter bo##cks . Move on joe just like the gammon. No one cares apart from those with agendas even the late mr mcguinnes toasted the queen. This type of drivel does nothing to enhance our games

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/01/2019 21:06:37    2160553

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Reminds me of the gammon ripping up the piece of paper on bbc , saying his dad fought the Germans and didn't cower neither will he. Utter bo##cks . Move on joe just like the gammon. No one cares apart from those with agendas even the late mr mcguinnes toasted the queen. This type of drivel does nothing to enhance our games"
Well Royaldunne will you move on- I have seen you slag off an teanga Gaeilge. You called it a "horrible language" if I remember right. So as Jesus said: look at the splinter in your own eye first, then the speck in your neigbhour!

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 28/01/2019 22:43:05    2160593

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P.S I don't like Joe Brolly as a pundit- he is too opinionated and too negative. His county Derry are in division 4 too.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 28/01/2019 22:44:18    2160594

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while I dont particularly like the agenda Brolly constantly pushes in his articles and the good guy/bad guy scenarios he often portrays. He is 100% right to highlight some of the inhumane atrocities suffered by club members of St. Enda's down through the dark years of the troubles.

The club have suffered more than any I can think of and when they do achieve something fantastic as a team, those who arent lucky enough to be around to revel in the glory should be remembered and i know the same happens at my own club when we win a championship. especially lads lost to sectarian murder are remembered in a moment hard to describe beyond bitter sweet.

Frankly, some of the posts from SOME of the Southern lads on this topic are ignorant at best and disgraceful at worst. when we listen to the poor mouth given about clubs in the south finding it hard to cope because of migration to the city or abroad at least nobody was killed or the club burned to the ground. St. Enda's had club leaders murdered for no other reason than they could be identified as a catholic as well as the many other attacks on club property etc and the club survived and are now reaping the rewards of a new era but its all b#ll#cks and nonsense to some!

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 29/01/2019 00:20:16    2160614

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Give us a break. Brolly wheels this stuff out every 2 or 3 weeks. It's nauseating at this stage. He never seems to have a story or tale from the 'other' side."
Maybe you should have experienced what many clubs did up here bloodyban and see are you so blasé......Sean fox a man in his 70s tortured for several hours in his own home just because he was a member of St Endas, Sean Brown murdered locking the gates of Bellaghy, the numerous GAA clubs burned to the ground or having their grounds/clubrooms damagrd often with the connivance of the local UDR etc.....those are uncomfortable facts, thankfully we have moved beyond those days in many ways but don't try belittle what people went through as it's insulting and ignorant

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 29/01/2019 08:35:59    2160619

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As a Galway man having read the headline and the content in it from Joe .... they do not match. Joe appears to have a go at Spiddal and their tactics which he is perfectly allowed to do in his role. On the topic "GAA Clubs Had It Tough In The North During The Troubles" I could not agree more and I know some of the people who kept clubs alive during this period and what they went through. We would not have such a competitive football championship or the strong hurling and camoige clubs of Derry and Antrim today without these people. Strongholds across all of Ulster from Down to Derry.

Sliotar99 (Galway) - Posts: 19 - 29/01/2019 08:57:15    2160621

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "while I dont particularly like the agenda Brolly constantly pushes in his articles and the good guy/bad guy scenarios he often portrays. He is 100% right to highlight some of the inhumane atrocities suffered by club members of St. Enda's down through the dark years of the troubles.

The club have suffered more than any I can think of and when they do achieve something fantastic as a team, those who arent lucky enough to be around to revel in the glory should be remembered and i know the same happens at my own club when we win a championship. especially lads lost to sectarian murder are remembered in a moment hard to describe beyond bitter sweet.

Frankly, some of the posts from SOME of the Southern lads on this topic are ignorant at best and disgraceful at worst. when we listen to the poor mouth given about clubs in the south finding it hard to cope because of migration to the city or abroad at least nobody was killed or the club burned to the ground. St. Enda's had club leaders murdered for no other reason than they could be identified as a catholic as well as the many other attacks on club property etc and the club survived and are now reaping the rewards of a new era but its all b#ll#cks and nonsense to some!"
Agreed 100%. The story about what Naomh Éanna have had to deal with is very important to hear.
It's a testament to their community that they have achieved what they have.
My issue with the article, as I stated, is purely in relation to the nonsense directed at An Spidéal, which is totally inaccurate and misrepresents the game itself and how we have played all year.
He has thrown mud at a small club to try to embellish the story, when the actual point of the story and the struggles Naomh Éanna have dealt with off the pitch were more than strong enough itself.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2046 - 29/01/2019 09:04:05    2160623

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Replying To galwayford:  "Well Royaldunne will you move on- I have seen you slag off an teanga Gaeilge. You called it a "horrible language" if I remember right. So as Jesus said: look at the splinter in your own eye first, then the speck in your neigbhour!"
I don't like the Irish language, mostly cause it was teachers with Brollys bs attitude. Get over yourself. U like Irish great for you, I won't tell you not to like it or love it, now do the same for me and don't force ur beliefs or agendas on me , we live in a democracy where people have freedom of choice and speech (as much as I disagree with Brolly and his nonsense) ie maidens dancing at the crossroads type of bs. I will defend his right to have those opinions. However the vast majority of the country north and south have moved on.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/01/2019 09:37:23    2160632

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Joe Brolly is just another Spillane - all about themselves...
I've been at St. Enda's and they are a fantastic club, to have a Naiscoil and a bunscoil on their grounds, to go around each morning and pick kids up for school, before you go to work, unbelievable - football, hurling, camoige, ladies football, scor and most importantly the Irish Language.....
I played a match there back in the early 80's and I found it very intimidating with loyalist flags everywhere, and i was only going there for one game....

Clubs all over the Se Chontae experienced and still experience 'bitterness' whether its through visible bigotry or the behind the scenes stuff, where applications/planning/funding is delayed. upheld , lost or just not looked at....
Just because the violence has ceased its still not plane sailing

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 29/01/2019 10:05:48    2160638

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Everyone had it tough in the North during that period, and some in the south too, putting a GAA club forward as being a bigger sufferer or in need of more recognition for surviving is neither necessary or warranted in my opinion

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 29/01/2019 10:14:32    2160640

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